Vine website,,, grandkids being bullied!

[Pghpooh]

HI
Found out tonight that my grand daughter is being bullied by another person who is posting videos on the Vine website.
Is there a way to access that website on my pc's and record the videos???
We want to have a copy of the videos so we can confront the kids and their parents and then go to the proper authorities and file charges if needed!

 

[Hugh Jass]

Should be able to just right click on the ones you want to save and save them as .mp4 files.

 

[Leros]

I just tested this. It's dead simple and works.

http://vinedownloader.com/

 

[lxskllr]

I'd use it as teaching moment. If the videos originated with the girl, tell her not to release videos she doesn't want the world to see. If they're third party made, tell her not to watch them. You can only be bullied if you allow yourself to be bullied.

 

[Pghpooh]

HI
Thanks for the info.
I'll pass this along to my daughter so she can capture the video and go from there.
What upsets me is my grand kids are 9 and 10 years old. The girl posting the vids is 10.

 

[Virgorising]

This....is SICKENING. And it abounds.

Seems the world is filled with very damaged, pain ridden, self hating, train wreck humans blindly moved to this evil stuff in some feebel, doomed attempt to feel better about themsleves.

As I have posted before: scratch a bully, find a COWARD.

I feel if you explain the above to your granddaughter (she is SO LUCKY TO HAVE YOU!)---this is not about ignoring, this is about her owning accurate data re this phenomenon......it will make a huge difference. Tell her such beings are sick, miserable and so, pitiable.

Educate and enlighten her. That is honoring her journey and the ultimate empowering.

 

[EagleKeeper]

HI
Thanks for the info.
I'll pass this along to my daughter so she can capture the video and go from there.
What upsets me is my grand kids are 9 and 10 years old. The girl posting the vids is 10.

Question is where did those videos come from? Who made them?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I'd use it as teaching moment. If the videos originated with the girl, tell her not to release videos she doesn't want the world to see. If they're third party made, tell her not to watch them. You can only be bullied if you allow yourself to be bullied.

Sorry, that's just not true. No one lives on an island and kids are especially susceptible to peer bullying and the environment it fosters. Kids who don't even know the people concerned will point and laugh and make disparaging remarks. Bullying should never be ignored or accepted.

 

[lxskllr]

Sorry, that's just not true. No one lives on an island and kids are especially susceptible to peer bullying and the environment it fosters. Kids who don't even know the people concerned will point and laugh and make disparaging remarks. Bullying should never be ignored or accepted.

However bad it is now, you can multiply that by ~2x once the "authorities" get involved.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

However bad it is now, you can multiply that by ~2x once the "authorities" get involved.

This discussion probably doesn't belong here but, you are incorrect again. The reason is simple, adults have (or, at least should) the maturity to punish wisely, teach limits and, define reasonable behavior. My solution when I was a wee lad was to wrap a 2x4 around the heads of my tormentors. Now who's parent would you rather be?

 

[lxskllr]

This discussion probably doesn't belong here but, you are incorrect again. The reason is simple, adults have (or, at least should) the maturity to punish wisely, teach limits and, define reasonable behavior. My solution when I was a wee lad was to wrap a 2x4 around the heads of my tormentors. Now who's parent would you rather be?

Ah, ok. So they just didn't know any better, eh? I didn't know we were dealing with the retarded here. I assumed the kids already knew better, and would just pick a less obvious method of torment. That makes things a little easier, but maybe not too. The retarded are much harder to teach. One thing that's almost sure to work though, is not giving the tormentors the pleasure of success. A reaction is what they work for. No reaction=no pay off, and they quit.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Ah, ok. So they just didn't know any better, eh? I didn't know we were dealing with the retarded here. I assumed the kids already knew better, and would just pick a less obvious method of torment. That makes things a little easier, but maybe not too. The retarded are much harder to teach. One thing that's almost sure to work though, is not giving the tormentors the pleasure of success. A reaction is what they work for. No reaction=no pay off, and they quit.

You are confusing real life with the intarwebs. In the real world bullies never quit until forced to and re educated. Bullying as opposed to being an occasional jerk is a psychological illness. Perhaps that's not the case here but, I believe it's wise to error on the side of caution. Bullying is real and very distructive. Bullies are not 'trolls.'

 

[HeXen]

Bullying is different today, that's for sure. Being intimidated, harrassed, threatened..etc within the school is one thing and imo, is just part of growing up but when it goes online it's in a totally different league and can also entice further bullying from strangers among other things. Ignoring those do not make them go away, you can't remove embarrassing locker room pics, videos or anything said about you. Quick action is needed before it goes too far.

In my area a couple years back, one thing among many that some girls did to another girl was photoshop her face onto a nude likeness doing crude acts and passed from phones, online..etc until she had to be home schooled and at some point it followed to her job where she had to quit. It's a different type of bullying these days that has no real limits that you can just ignore.

 

[Virgorising]

Sorry, that's just not true. No one lives on an island and kids are especially susceptible to peer bullying and the environment it fosters. Kids who don't even know the people concerned will point and laugh and make disparaging remarks. Bullying should never be ignored or accepted.

Absolutely true, and could not be more important!

But I stand by my post re educating the target re the reality of anyone blindly moved to do this....is the only way to go. Nothing empowers more; nothing makes one impervious to such evil more.

 

[Virgorising]

Bullying is different today, that's for sure. Being intimidated, harrassed, threatened..etc within the school is one thing and imo, is just part of growing up but when it goes online it's in a totally different league and can also entice further bullying from strangers among other things. Ignoring those do not make them go away, you can't remove embarrassing locker room pics, videos or anything said about you. Quick action is needed before it goes too far.

In my area a couple years back, one thing among many that some girls did to another girl was photoshop her face onto a nude likeness doing crude acts and passed from phones, online..etc until she had to be home schooled and at some point it followed to her job where she had to quit. It's a different type of bullying these days that has no real limits that you can just ignore.

I don think it's different; I think what the net affords simply gives the sickos a greater breadth of opportunity, is all. And no way is/was it ever NORMAL: be it now, or 100 years ago, it is precisely the same phenomenon engaged in by people who share the same, pitiable, unexamined issues.

 

[Virgorising]

You are confusing real life with the intarwebs. In the real world bullies never quit until forced to and re educated. Bullying as opposed to being an occasional jerk is a psychological illness. Perhaps that's not the case here but, I believe it's wise to error on the side of caution. Bullying is real and very distructive. Bullies are not 'trolls.'

Bullies need therapy. But again, messed up, secretly self hating, issue ridden humans blindly move to this have always been among us.

Forcing someone to quit without helping them do the work of reclaiming health over time, does nothing real.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Bullies need therapy. But again, messed up, secretly self hating, issue ridden humans blindly move to this have always been among us.

Forcing someone to quit without helping them do the work of reclaiming health over time, does nothing real.

Very true which is why I also said 're educated.' More often than not, children who are bullies are bullied at home. They feel powerless, depressed and, believe there's no way out of the cycle. So, they bully others to empower themselves. The reasons make sense as an adult but, as a child it's unending pain and misery.

 

[HeXen]

I don think it's different; I think what the net affords simply gives the sickos a greater breadth of opportunity, is all. And no way is/was it ever NORMAL: be it now, or 100 years ago, it is precisely the same phenomenon engaged in by people who share the same, pitiable, unexamined issues.

Normal means literally " usual or ordinary : not strange". Bullying is not strange or unusual. It's very common, even 100 years ago. So yes, techincally it is part of the norm and possibility for a kid to get picked on at occasion or consistantly by peers. It also happens in the adult world, often at work by higher ups. It's reality, it's every single day to millions....therefore it's normal to see this behavior. It's also not fair nor right but tell me what is?

 

[Virgorising]

Very true which is why I also said 're educated.' More often than not, children who are bullies are bullied at home. They feel powerless, depressed and, believe there's no way out of the cycle. So, they bully others to empower themselves. The reasons make sense as an adult but, as a child it's unending pain and misery.

Every word above=TRUE. Bullying is a defense against pushed away pain, most often early life pain.

But my suggestion, given it is crucial and also possible....is to educate/illuminate/enlighten the target of the bullying. If accurate info is shared, that will do WONDERS.

We have little control over the outside, but earning truth and clarity, and so, power.... inside...I think, for all of life, is the heady dynamic, and also the privilege.

Power is never having power over others, healthy people don't even want that, well cept in such as sports; POWER is owning clarity and truth increasingly at yr own core. AND THAT CORE....IS FAR MORE breathtaking, formidable, complex than any made by Intel.

Anyone who abets our journey into truth, clarity.....is beyond precious. Never, ever confined to formal education.

This girl, the target of this evil, with the right, accurate input.....will grow eyes by Marcel Proust. Not much better than that in life!

 

[HeXen]

Every word above=TRUE. Bullying is a defense against pushed away pain, most often early life pain.

There is no single aspect of someone that leads them to bullying. It varies greatly. Some kids will bully another simply because one of their peers is bullying the same kid, so they join in. Typically most anyone that is viewed as weaker physically, socially or mentally may draw negative responses from others regardless of their upbringing and age. How far those negative responses go will also vary based on a huge variety of factors. I know a 50 year old man who bullies co workers, so it's not just kids nor is it always their childhood.
You can't just blame mommy and daddy for everything about someone's personality but of course bad parenting never helps but also never means their child won't be a great person either.

 

[Intabus]

Mods need to mvoe this to discussion. There is entirely too much sense being made with rational conversation to be an ATOT topic.

 

[Virgorising]

There is no single aspect of someone that leads them to bullying. It varies greatly. Some kids will bully another simply because one of their peers is bullying the same kid, so they join in. Typically most anyone that is viewed as weaker physically, socially or mentally may draw negative responses from others regardless of their upbringing and age. How far those negative responses go will also vary based on a huge variety of factors. I know a 50 year old man who bullies co workers, so it's not just kids nor is it always their childhood.
You can't just blame mommy and daddy for everything about someone's personality but of course bad parenting never helps but also never means their child won't be a great person either.

But, there is always a common denominator underlying. And, I submit, it is an often intense feeling of inadequacy just the CAPACITY TO BULLY is a toxic defense against.

 

[OutHouse]

What are the nature of the videos?

 

[rudeguy]

What are the nature of the videos?

never been on Vine huh?|

Either porn or really shitty made comedy skits. Like...really shitty. But check out sosillybonilly. She's awesome.

 

[olds]

Mods need to mvoe this to discussion. There is entirely too much sense being made with rational conversation to be an ATOT topic.

And check his IP while you are at it.