Violence hitting supporters of health care reform bill

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Linflas

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Was it sent to a lunatic fringe who has already committed violence? It is all about context. If you send it to rational people it would be harmless. They have shown themselves to be unhinged at rallies with insane posters comparing health reform to concentration camps and have started in with violence, including their organizers.

Funny how you skipped over my other article and used the easy pickings out of context. I will repeat it for you who her audience is:

"After a tea party organizer published the address of the brother of Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA) in a blog post urging anti-health reform activists to "drop by," someone cut a propane gas line at the house, Politico is reporting.

Now the FBI is investigating what happened at the home near Charlottesville, according to Politico.

The development comes on the heels of at least five instances of vandalism -- mainly in the form of smashed doors and windows -- at Democratic offices around the country in the days around the House health care vote Sunday night.

In the Periello case, an activist named Mike Troxel of the Lynchburg Tea Party wrote a blog post telling activists to add a "personal touch" to their anger at Periello -- who voted yes on the health care bill -- by going to his house. But Troxel mistakenly posted the address of Periello's brother."

"And there's one coda here, reported by the Danville News: Another tea party activist who reportedly posted Periello's brother's address online, Nigel Coleman of the Danville Tea Party, wrote in a blog comment after learning about the mistaken address: "Do you mean I posted his brother's address on my Facebook? Oh well, collateral damage.""

The only cherry picking going on here is by your side. New Black Panther members standing outside a polling place with baseball bats? No intimidation or threat of violence there. Black guy selling T Shirts outside a town hall meeting gets beat up on camera by purple shirted SEIU thugs calling him "great person"? No violence there, nothing happened. Threats of violence against Jim Bunning back during the "jobs bill" filibuster? No news there, nothing to see, move along please.
 

shadow9d9

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The only cherry picking going on here is by your side. New Black Panther members standing outside a polling place with baseball bats? No intimidation or threat of violence there. Black guy selling T Shirts outside a town hall meeting gets beat up on camera by purple shirted SEIU thugs calling him "great person"? No violence there, nothing happened. Threats of violence against Jim Bunning back during the "jobs bill" filibuster? No news there, nothing to see, move along please.

If you are trying to deflect, you are wasting our time.

My point was that violent messages and instructions are currently being sent to a lunatic fringe proven to be currently committing violence.

Your point is others have done it so it isn't a problem?
 

shadow9d9

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No deflection, just pointing out the essential hypocrisy behind the panicked bleating taking place here and in the media.

My point was that violent messages and instructions are currently being sent to a lunatic fringe proven to be currently committing violence.

Your point is others have done it so it isn't a problem?

And how does a "threat of violence" equal violence now?
 

senseamp

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Republicans continue to demonstrate they are a party of teabaggers unfit to govern. I guess they really think violence is going to get people to align with their agenda? Good luck with that.
 

spidey07

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My point was that violent messages and instructions are currently being sent to a lunatic fringe proven to be currently committing violence.

Your point is others have done it so it isn't a problem?

And how does a "threat of violence" equal violence now?

So how do you explain that republicans are also victims of attacks and threats?
 

nonlnear

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So how do you explain that republicans are also victims of attacks and threats?
Those are just random, non-politically motivated incidents. In the few cases where there is explicit political speech attached to the actions, they are just random whackos and in no way indicative of any wider indecency. Only Democrats are victims of politically motivated violence or hate crimes. In those cases the incidents of violence or threats of violence are clear indications that all Republicans are dangerous subversives. In fact, they are such convincing evidence of this truth that the threats themselves are immaterial. The fact that some Democrats "feel" threatened is what really matters - which is why the threats themselves don't need to be published or verified by the press.
 
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Linflas

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"Liberals" are not a cohesive group. They all have their own ideas. Whereas the "teabagger" morons ARE a cohesive group preaching hate, intolerance, and violence. Additionally, they are controlled and operated by Fox news, which preaches hate and violence openly to them.

My point was that violent messages and instructions are currently being sent to a lunatic fringe proven to be currently committing violence.

Your point is others have done it so it isn't a problem?

And how does a "threat of violence" equal violence now?

No what you are actually trying to do is tar the Tea Party movement as being part of the "lunatic fringe". You do it by attributing random acts of violence by a very small number of people as somehow being endorsed and encouraged by them. You do it by the pejorative "teabagger". You do it by dismissing their ideas as hate, intolerance, and violence even though by any measure every Tea Party rally has been the model of peaceful, civil protest. When they marched on Washington DC last year they even cleaned up before they left. Their issues are the deficit and Constitutional governance. If that is "hate and intolerance" the meaning of those words has been changed beyond recognition.
 
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Americans are scared.

Our economy is in the dumps and none of our politicians have a clue as how to fix it or they are purposely ignoring our problems, completely failing to mention the real cause of our problems: Global Labor Arbitrage.

Americans have seen millions of formerly middle class jobs leave the U.S. for China, India, and Mexico. They have seen foreigners displacing Americans from often college-education-requiring jobs via the H-1B and L-1 visa, and they have watched as millions of illegal aliens have invaded our country, depressing wages and displacing lower class Americans from poverty-wage jobs.

They feel a need to lash out but are channeling it in the wrong place. One problem is that the dogma they believe--free markets--is a significant contributor to the problem.
 

Zebo

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Americans are scared.

Our economy is in the dumps and none of our politicians have a clue as how to fix it or they are purposely ignoring our problems, completely failing to mention the real cause of our problems: Global Labor Arbitrage.

Americans have seen millions of formerly middle class jobs leave the U.S. for China, India, and Mexico. They have seen foreigners displacing Americans from often college-education-requiring jobs via the H-1B and L-1 visa, and they have watched as millions of illegal aliens have invaded our country, depressing wages and displacing lower class Americans from poverty-wage jobs.

They feel a need to lash out but are channeling it in the wrong place. One problem is that the dogma they believe--free markets--is a significant contributor to the problem.

Yup and one day we will wake up and be just like them unless stops are put into place.

Human and labor rights should not begin and end at our borders and tariffs should be equal to the costs of providing those rights otherwise we will become just like them once we can no longer borrow like we have since 1980. Prepare. Maybe that's what they want.
 

Skitzer

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We are talking about simple tea bagger vandalism, and regardless if its orchestrated by a higher up GOP power or not, its not hard to predict that their shit must stop, or one or more of these miscreants will be caught in the act.

First of all ...... how are you so certain who these vandals are?
I hope they are caught too. But wouldn't it be funny if they turned out to be liberals instead of Teapartyers?
Just sayin'
 

piasabird

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Democrats are continually trying to force the public into communism and facism. Instead of using the healthcare bill to help people they want to force their liberal socialist agenda on people by creating groups that are devisive and designed to weaken our individual freedoms, and force everyone to serve the rich and elite.

Do you really want to be a slave to the state?
 

Mursilis

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My point was that violent messages and instructions are currently being sent to a lunatic fringe proven to be currently committing violence.

That's just silly. Adults have free will. If I told you to paypal me your retirement account and then go punch a PETA supporter, would any of that actually happen? Of course not (I hope).
 

Patranus

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First of all ...... how are you so certain who these vandals are?
I hope they are caught too. But wouldn't it be funny if they turned out to be liberals instead of Teapartyers?
Just sayin'

Only "progressives" get to be upset at government. Didn't you get the memo?

Have you ever seen news coverage of the G8?
 
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Cantor says someone shot a bullet through his office window this week:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001168-503544.html
This I don't believe, because if it had happened, he wouldn't have had to announce it for people to know of it. Police would have been involved and word would have gotten out. I'll gladly eat crow if a police report comes out, because I don't like the idea of anyone on any side lying about something like this. It's also worth mentioning in the same press release he harped about Democrats turning this into a political issue then plays his Jew card. Also, this guy goes to Brittney Spears concerts without his daughter.
 

her209

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Cantor says someone shot a bullet through his office window this week:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001168-503544.html
This I don't believe, because if it had happened, he wouldn't have had to announce it for people to know of it. Police would have been involved and word would have gotten out. I'll gladly eat crow if a police report comes out, because I don't like the idea of anyone on any side lying about something like this. It's also worth mentioning in the same press release he harped about Democrats turning this into a political issue then plays his Jew card. Also, this guy goes to Brittney Spears concerts without his daughter.
LOL... what does that have to do with anything?
 

her209

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No special treatment for them. Oh, wait. We're talking about the wanna-be royalty.
Really? You don't see anything wrong with certain individuals threatening public officials to vote a certain way or we'll harm/kill you and/or your family?
 

CycloWizard

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In a world in which this bill can exist, logic has been abandoned and the philosopher has no choice but to become a warrior to fight the threat of force which has been leveraged against him.
 
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