Violent and criminal Anti-Trump protests

[imported_tajmahal]

This thread will continue to watch various violent and criminal Anti-Trump protests that take place during his Presidency. If it's just a peaceful and constitutional protest it really shouldn't be included in this thread. There's always going to be some overlap, but try to focus on illegal and violent actions from the various hate groups opposed to President Trump.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/01/20/protests-violence-prevalent-dc/
"“They began to destroy property, throw objects at people, through windows. A large percentage of this small group was armed with crowbars and hammers,” said the city’s interim police chief, Peter Newsham."


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...rotestors-vandalize-businesses-cars-kiosks-dc
"Footage shot by MRC Culture and CNSNews.com shows protestors vandalizing local businesses, destroying a limousine with hammers, spray-painting on walls and windows, smashing kiosks, and chanting “no cops, no borders, fight law and order.”

More to come, i'm sure.

 

[Jhhnn]

This thread will continue to watch various violent and criminal Anti-Trump protests that take place during his Presidency. If it's just a peaceful and constitutional protest it really shouldn't be included in this thread. There's always going to be some overlap, but try to focus on illegal and violent actions from the various hate groups opposed to President Trump.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/01/20/protests-violence-prevalent-dc/
"“They began to destroy property, throw objects at people, through windows. A large percentage of this small group was armed with crowbars and hammers,” said the city’s interim police chief, Peter Newsham."


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...rotestors-vandalize-businesses-cars-kiosks-dc
"Footage shot by MRC Culture and CNSNews.com shows protestors vandalizing local businesses, destroying a limousine with hammers, spray-painting on walls and windows, smashing kiosks, and chanting “no cops, no borders, fight law and order.”

More to come, i'm sure.

Amazing what can be accomplished by agent provocateurs.

 

[feralkid]

Prepare to be surprised.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Thanks to MonGrel for this link.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-protesters-20170120-story.html

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Thanks to MonGrel for this link.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-protesters-20170120-story.html

I just realized that I was having a discussion with photographers on another site and one there took pics of that car before it was firebombed. Poor guy got maced.

Most people have no idea what the real world is like in terms of potential danger.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I just realized that I was having a discussion with photographers on another site and one there took pics of that car before it was firebombed. Poor guy got maced.

Most people have no idea what the real world is like in terms of potential danger.

It's one of the results of activist media, as they become more involved in protests and demonstrations they face higher and higher risk when they turn violent. They are no longer thought of as "neutral" parties just recording events, but as the drivers and inciters of the violence for profit and fame motives.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's one of the results of activist media, as they become more involved in protests and demonstrations they face higher and higher risk when they turn violent. They are no longer thought of as "neutral" parties just recording events, but as the drivers and inciters of the violence for profit and fame motives.

Like James O'Keefe & Project Veritas?

http://www.alternet.org/media/conse...-busted-dirty-tricks-against-trump-protesters

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's one of the results of activist media, as they become more involved in protests and demonstrations they face higher and higher risk when they turn violent. They are no longer thought of as "neutral" parties just recording events, but as the drivers and inciters of the violence for profit and fame motives.

This guy was in the area photographing the event when the riot broke out. He's not an activist, he was acting as an event photographer. Wrong place at the wrong time, or if you are interested in recording significant moments in history, the right time.

There was no agenda, however he was situationally unaware and hadn't considered the potential of being in a politically charged location. He's just a normal guy who wanted to capture the moment, blissfully ignorant like most people.

It sucks that the world is as it is and that when one ventures out it is wise to consider one's actions and place. People who have not been exposed to life threatening situations can be naive. Would that we all could safely be likewise.

 

[Commodus]

It's one of the results of activist media, as they become more involved in protests and demonstrations they face higher and higher risk when they turn violent. They are no longer thought of as "neutral" parties just recording events, but as the drivers and inciters of the violence for profit and fame motives.

When did the media actually incite riots? Oh right, they didn't. They have to cover protests because they're news. And did you really think no one would protest Trump given his hateful policies?

As MLK put it: "A riot is the language of the unheard." And when Trump refuses to listen to women, non-whites, LGBT people and anyone who isn't rich... well, that's a lot of unheard people. I don't think people should riot, but it's perfectly understandable why they are in these circumstances.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

When did the media actually incite riots? Oh right, they didn't. They have to cover protests because they're news. And did you really think no one would protest Trump given his hateful policies?

As MLK put it: "A riot is the language of the unheard." And when Trump refuses to listen to women, non-whites, LGBT people and anyone who isn't rich... well, that's a lot of unheard people. I don't think people should riot, but it's perfectly understandable why they are in these circumstances.

MLK didn't go around burning and looting. We may understand why some do, but others are out to break and burn because that is their nature and harming innocents is something I cannot abide.

As far as "media", sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a guy with is camera taking photos is just a guy with a camera. Media isn't applicable.

 

[Starbuck1975]

When did the media actually incite riots? Oh right, they didn't. They have to cover protests because they're news. And did you really think no one would protest Trump given his hateful policies?

As MLK put it: "A riot is the language of the unheard." And when Trump refuses to listen to women, non-whites, LGBT people and anyone who isn't rich... well, that's a lot of unheard people. I don't think people should riot, but it's perfectly understandable why they are in these circumstances.

So the Chewbacca defense. No one ever worries about unheard droids.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Like James O'Keefe & Project Veritas?

http://www.alternet.org/media/conse...-busted-dirty-tricks-against-trump-protesters

Yes.

 

[Commodus]

MLK didn't go around burning and looting. We may understand why some do, but others are out to break and burn because that is their nature and harming innocents is something I cannot abide.

As far as "media", sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and a guy with is camera taking photos is just a guy with a camera. Media isn't applicable.

Oh, I know -- King was a champion of peaceful protests. But the difference between him and, say, a die-hard Trump apologist is that he knew rioting is frequently a symptom of underlying dissatisfaction, not just an excuse to break things. Imagine if you were a poor black man, and Trump had basically declared war on your existence... how would you feel?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

This guy was in the area photographing the event when the riot broke out. He's not an activist, he was acting as an event photographer. Wrong place at the wrong time, or if you are interested in recording significant moments in history, the right time.

There was no agenda, however he was situationally unaware and hadn't considered the potential of being in a politically charged location. He's just a normal guy who wanted to capture the moment, blissfully ignorant like most people.

It sucks that the world is as it is and that when one ventures out it is wise to consider one's actions and place. People who have not been exposed to life threatening situations can be naive. Would that we all could safely be likewise.

Agreed, but he got lumped into the violent protesters by the authorities on site. If you're going to be in the midst of a violent protest you need to be aware of the danger you're placing yourself and your crew into.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

When did the media actually incite riots? Oh right, they didn't. They have to cover protests because they're news. And did you really think no one would protest Trump given his hateful policies?

As MLK put it: "A riot is the language of the unheard." And when Trump refuses to listen to women, non-whites, LGBT people and anyone who isn't rich... well, that's a lot of unheard people. I don't think people should riot, but it's perfectly understandable why they are in these circumstances.

There's a thread in here, blocked now, when a guy got clocked and it's obviously a set-up video where the videographer got the guys attention and then the puncher slammed the guy, pretty obvious. Can you actually claim that no media whatever has ever instigated or incited violence?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Oh, I know -- King was a champion of peaceful protests. But the difference between him and, say, a die-hard Trump apologist is that he knew rioting is frequently a symptom of underlying dissatisfaction, not just an excuse to break things. Imagine if you were a poor black man, and Trump had basically declared war on your existence... how would you feel?

Yep, we agree. We really need to take a look at what lies underneath. Perversely perhaps I got some crap, not a lot, when I said the same thing about populist movements in the US and Europe and that lumping them all as racist wasn't sufficient. Same mentality different sides.

I'm thinking that taking advantage of any label to avoid thought about any group isn't a wise thing to do, be it Trump or Europeans discontent with immigrants. Oh well, as you may have noticed I tend to gore a lot of oxen.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Agreed, but he got lumped into the violent protesters by the authorities on site. If you're going to be in the midst of a violent protest you need to be aware of the danger you're placing yourself and your crew into.

Yep and in the heat of the moment bad things happen. One needs to be aware and make decisions based on circumstances which will almost certainly move beyond one's control.

Going to Churchill again- "Nothing is more exhilarating in life as to be shot at without result". Well damn if that's not true, but maybe it's best not to put yourself in that position if it can be avoided. Try a rollercoaster.

 

[Meghan54]

There's a thread in here, blocked now, when a guy got clocked and it's obviously a set-up video where the videographer got the guys attention and then the puncher slammed the guy, pretty obvious. Can you actually claim that no media whatever has ever instigated or incited violence?

Yes....link and proof needed to the contrary. And given your assertion, should be very easy to prove your baseless assertion.

 

[dmcowen674]

This thread will continue to watch various violent and criminal Anti-Trump protests that take place during his Presidency.

Most of them are young and will be very useful in the draft.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yes....link and proof needed to the contrary. And given your assertion, should be very easy to prove your baseless assertion.

I'm not required, nor will I provide something that simple and easy for you. It's a blocked thread in this very forum, look it up for yourself.

 

[Meghan54]

I'm not required, nor will I provide something that simple and easy for you. It's a blocked thread in this very forum, look it up for yourself.

So, got nothing. Gotcha.

FYI...making baseless accusations and refusing to provide proof of said accusations makes you look foolish at best. Then again, why should anyone expect any different from you?

 

[HomerJS]

There's a thread in here, blocked now, when a guy got clocked and it's obviously a set-up video where the videographer got the guys attention and then the puncher slammed the guy, pretty obvious. Can you actually claim that no media whatever has ever instigated or incited violence?

Can you actually claim the now leader of the free world has never incited violence?? You will NEVER put any responsibility on your tangerine fearless leader.

This blame the media shit is the old crazy right wing playbook. If you talk about the problem you are the problem. If you quote Donald Trump you are causing a problem.

Small brains get hoodwinked by this MO all the time

 

[WelshBloke]

MLK didn't go around burning and looting.

MLK got fucking shot.

Also I thought that the Piss Yellow One said that this all stops yesterday? Obviously presidenting involves more than just words. Mr Talky might be in for a surprise!

 

[Jhhnn]

There's a thread in here, blocked now, when a guy got clocked and it's obviously a set-up video where the videographer got the guys attention and then the puncher slammed the guy, pretty obvious. Can you actually claim that no media whatever has ever instigated or incited violence?

That's completely unverifiable yet well framed in a post-truth sort of way.

 

[Commodus]

I'm not required, nor will I provide something that simple and easy for you. It's a blocked thread in this very forum, look it up for yourself.

As the saying goes: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you're so confident that it's true despite serious doubts, you find a way to link to or cite a credible source (that is, not a partisan circle-jerk site). If you float a conspiracy theory, even a relatively plausible one, the burden of proof is not on the public to disprove it... it's on you to show it holds up.