The hilarious part is those idiots cheering for them to be put in federal prison are the same ones that argue that we need the 2nd Amendment to rebel against a government they oppose.
Show me where white supremacists have organized and committed mob violence.
Do you think ANTIFA's grievances are valid and in alignment with their measures?
What does that have to do with my point? The point is that conservatives want them in prison for life if they could. They're a pretty authoritarian bunch.
I thought you were making an argument that 2A supporters should support ANTIFA because they represent anti-government violence. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't consider support of revolutionary movements and support of law enforcement as mutually exclusive. Apparently you do.
At least he's not speaking from ignorance nor his rectum, as you seem to do quite frequently...and seemingly with delight.
Dude, it's nothing "revolutionary" right now. Conservatives hate the woman march and protesters because they are afraid it'll hinder Trump's administration. Protesting is a right. With all those people, it's bound to result in some property damage, etc. Doesn't mean the protestors should stop, which I see a lot of conservatives complaining that they should do. Never mind, they are against police deploying BS tactics just like they did with the Keystone protests.
I'm not talking about the Women's March, I'm talking about ANTIFA, an organized criminal group which assaults and destroys across the nation in cities weak enough to permit it.
There were relatively few violent incidences considering the scope of the protests over two days. And most of the idiot violent protesters are fucking anarchists, and have nothing to do with the democratic progressive movement.
Trump is a fascist, so whoever is protesting it (which includes women, too, btw), kudos to them. The Republican party is actively trying to suppress the minority vote and leveraging their minority power in numerous other ways. We need people protesting this nonsense.
There were relatively few violent incidences considering the scope of the protests over two days. And most of the idiot violent protesters are fucking anarchists, and have nothing to do with the democratic progressive movement.
Yep. It's similar to the asinine complaint that BLM shouldn't talk about cops because it'll lead to someone killing a cop. It's a joke and similar to concern trolling. While some rhetoric is questionable and unwarranted, they shouldn't just stop pushing for reform of policing. Those same idiots "concerned" over this will never admit that countries with less guns lead to less homicides even adjusting for demographics.
Are you still talking about the Women's March or are you talking about ANTIFA? This is a thread titled "Violent and criminal anti-Trump protests".
The woman's march is like a million people.That's what's on the radar. It isn't a coup either, so why are you so focused on the people who acted violently or destroyed property? Do you want everyone to just stop because of it?
I genuinely have nothing against the apparent million that did their march today in DC. I don't particularly care about them either, but assuming they went through the proper channels and weren't blocking freeways illegally or anything (which is my understanding of the matter), I'm fine with them doing their thing. I don't think their protests are an attack on democracy as some have implied.
ANTIFA, masked thugs that carry weapons and paint, assaulting people/damaging property only to then scurry away, more pathetic yet hiding behind cops when someone fights back, are worse than any current alt-right/white nationalist protestors I'm aware of.
Care to show the data adjusting for demographics? Non-Hispanic whites commit gun homicide at a rate roughly around 1 per 100k, a bit above Europe which hovers around 0.1-0.5 per 100k depending on where you look, but not nearly as significant. Then further adjust for differences in social/economic policy, and it gets even closer. Then consider that non-gun homicides aren't proportionately low, and I'm very skeptical of your claim.
ANTIFA, masked thugs that carry weapons and paint, assaulting people/damaging property only to then scurry away, more pathetic yet hiding behind cops when someone fights back, are worse than any current alt-right/white nationalist protestors I'm aware of.
It's close. Some disingenuously compare without factoring in demographics, but using common sense, it's easier for people to kill with firearms, and they are more likely to carry out a murder (less bloody, etc.). There's also a reason why those countries have law enforcement that have a better track on using deadly force against civilians, too ( e.g. less civilians with guns and less reasons to panic that an object is a gun).
How much do you estimate they number? It just seems like a distraction just to derail the merit of the protests. Law enforcement hasn't been without fault either, btw. Republican lawmakers also want to make it legal for people to run them over and give stiffer punishments for what supposedly is the "right" (i.e. they argue it's okay to take up arms against the government sometimes) thing to do in certain circumstances.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19...ropose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
Here you go OP, and other hacks. Rock out with your jock out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWLBtMz5OuY
Doesn't explain the very low rates of gun homicides in Switzerland (just have to wait for rifle practice before going on a killing spree) or the Czech Republic (gun laws more permissive than many major American cities).
It is easier to kill with a gun, but you only really need a gun if you want to kill large groups of people quickly (and spree killings make up a negligible proportion of total American gun homicides).
In America, we use guns. In the UK, they use knives and bats. You don't need a gun to kill a partner will they sleep.
Here you go OP, and other hacks. Rock out with your jock out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWLBtMz5OuY
That ties in with cultural political, socioeconomic reasons. For instance, GDP per capita is much higher for the Swiss. It's not a strong argument to use these few countries. In fact, you just undermined your argument, since there's much more in favor that more guns correlate with higher homicide rate.
That's largely why they are close when you only factor in demographics. I agree. But you're also ignoring that in domestic homicides, someone is more likely to carry out a murder(s) if they have access to a gun (e.g. less messy, less likely to just injure, etc.). And petty arguments can turn deadly easier e.g. look at that retired cop who killed that man in the theater. This isn't even considering all of the accidental gun deaths that happen each year in the home and the fact that law enforcement wouldn't need to use deadly force as often..
Again, people will be less likely to use those methods or not be as successful.
You do realize that America has lower wealth equality than Switzerland, right? That makes my argument, not yours.
All you're doing is looking at a single country (the USA), looking at a number of other countries (non-Eastern Europe), excluding the gun-friendly European exceptions, and declaring a correlation.
I don't think "messiness" is a huge factor if you're a pissed off domestic abuser wanting to kill your wife, and a well-placed stab can be just as fatal as a bullet.
Duuuuude, why didn't you post The Wall instead, it's a symbol of, like, separation of our humanity, and like, Trump's wall and shit, man.
So 150 years ago.