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CRV

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What is the top virus etc protection now and days. I have web root and it’s going to expire soon. So going to need the latest and greatest.
 

UsandThem

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I've used Norton Security for many years, and I have been very happy with it. You usually can get a year subscription with up to 5 PCs for $20 when on sale.

I've also seen Eset security for a few dollars more, and finally Bitdefender security on sale for around $25 for a year.

That said, the built-in Windows 10 Defender has really improved over the last couple years, and surprisingly scores right up there with the best of them.
 

CRV

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I've used Norton Security for many years, and I have been very happy with it. You usually can get a year subscription with up to 5 PCs for $20 when on sale.

I've also seen Eset security for a few dollars more, and finally Bitdefender security on sale for around $25 for a year.

That said, the built-in Windows 10 Defender has really improved over the last couple years, and surprisingly scores right up there with the best of them.

Norton seems kind of overly strict, so it gets a bit annoying. For a year of having Web Root, it doesn’t seem to even find anything in the scans yet, so I don’t think it’s reliable. Had MCFee and Trend Micro before and they were alright. Was thinking of getting Kaspersky or the pay version of Malwarebytes.
 

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Norton seems kind of overly strict, so it gets a bit annoying. For a year of having Web Root, it doesn’t seem to even find anything in the scans yet, so I don’t think it’s reliable. Had MCFee and Trend Micro before and they were alright. Was thinking of getting Kaspersky or the pay version of Malwarebytes.
Malwarebytes isn't an anti-virus program.
I would use it in conjunction with an AV program.

I probably wouldn't use Kaspersky. The odds are that its probably safe, but am not taking the chance.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/323...he-kaspersky-antivirus-hack-really-means.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomas...-av-hack-with-satellite-malware/#34ab0e222e0f

Just my opinion. For free AV, I would use Avast but if you're going to pay for it, go with ESET NOD 32.
Fry's has sales where you can get a year for as low as 10.00/yr.

Here's 2 years from Amazon for 34.99
https://www.amazon.com/ESET-Nod32-Antivirus-User-Year/dp/B01MCXX74E/
 
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The current version of Malwarebytes Premium is also an AV program, and it works well.
 
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UsandThem

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The current version of Malwarebytes Premium is also an AV program, and it works well.

IMO, Malwarebytes as a stand-alone anti-virus isn't that great.

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/malwarebytes

The only PV assessment we could find was MRG Effitas' Q1 2018 360 Degree Assessment and Certification, a real-world test involving 18 antivirus tools. Malwarebytes failed to detect all the threats and was one of only five products classed as ‘failed’, along with SurfRight HitManPro, Trend Micro Maximum, Watchdog Anti-Malware and Zemana Anti-Malware.
 
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I use Norton and it seems to catch a bunch of stuff, even stuff that attacks me from the web.

But I still wonder can I do more? It’s what its not catching that worries me.
 

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I use Norton and it seems to catch a bunch of stuff, even stuff that attacks me from the web.

But I still wonder can I do more? It’s what its not catching that worries me.

As long as you are using common-sense practices on your PC, you should be fine. Norton is always in the top 3 for overall protection. I've always looked at antivirus software as the last line of protection, and not something that would always save me from dumb behavior. Kind of like an airbag in a car. I try to avoid the wreck altogether and not rely on the airbag to save me from my bad driving.

No security program will stop everything when people aren't smart in what they do. Things like clicking on email links, going to unknown websites without first checking the link with Virus Total of Google Safe Browsing, or downloading questionable files. I can't remember the last time I encountered malware / virus. The main reason I still use an aftermarket security program is because of my wife and teenagers. They are in such a hurry when online, they sometimes forget to be smart with stuff. Luckily, my wife is better than she used to be in email links, and my teens usually check out the URL with Norton Safe Web and the two sites I mentioned above.
 
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paperfist

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As long as you are using common-sense practices on your PC, you should be fine. Norton is always in the top 3 for overall protection. I've always looked at antivirus software as the last line of protection, and not something that would always save me from dumb behavior. Kind of like an airbag in a car. I try to avoid the wreck altogether and not rely on the airbag to save me from my bad driving.

No security program will stop everything when people aren't smart in what they do. Things like clicking on email links, going to unknown websites without first checking the link with Virus Total of Google Safe Browsing, or downloading questionable files. I can't remember the last time I encountered malware / virus. The main reason I still use an aftermarket security program is because of my wife and teenagers. They are in such a hurry when online, they sometimes forget to be smart with stuff. Luckily, my wife is better than she used to be in email links, and my teens usually check out the URL with Norton Safe Web and the two sites I mentioned above.

Sometimes you got to live a little and be wreckless like clicking on the YouTube link with the hot girl that’s not there.

The one thing I hate with Norton is the safe search.

Mostly I take the safety first approach, but sometimes downloading excel, 3D print files, alleged older Win 10 ISOs can provide unintended results.
 

UsandThem

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Sometimes you got to live a little and be wreckless like clicking on the YouTube link with the hot girl that’s not there.

The one thing I hate with Norton is the safe search.

Mostly I take the safety first approach, but sometimes downloading excel, 3D print files, alleged older Win 10 ISOs can provide unintended results.

What don't you like about Safe Search? I don't make it my default search engine like it recommends, but I just enable the extension in Chrome, and when I search using Google, it just has little green, orange, red, or grey box next the links letting me know any known security concerns for the URL.

For example, as a mod I have to take a look at suspicious links new members post, and this is what I do when inspecting it:

1. Google the URL, and see what Norton Safe Search shows.
2. Go to VirusTotal and check the URL there.
3. Go to Google Safe Browsing, and check the URL there.

Just doing those 3 things usually alerts me 99.9% of the time if something is wrong with the URL. But yeah, if you are downloading ISOs from places other than the company's website, that's an inherently dangerous thing to do because you don't know the author's intention. No security software will keep you 100% safe from that.
 
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paperfist

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What don't you like about Safe Search? I don't make it my default search engine like it recommends, but I just enable the extension in Chrome, and when I search using Google, it just has little green, orange, red, or grey box next the links letting me know any known security concerns for the URL.

For example, as a mod I have to take a look at suspicious links new members post, and this is what I do when inspecting it:

1. Google the URL, and see what Norton Safe Search shows.
2. Go to VirusTotal and check the URL there.
3. Go to Google Safe Browsing, and check the URL there.

Just doing those 3 things usually alerts me 99.9% of the time if something is wrong with the URL. But yeah, if you are downloading ISOs from places other than the company's website, that's an inherently dangerous thing to do because you don't know the author's intention. No security software will keep you 100% safe from that.

Every year I renew I try safe search extensions and end up disabling them. It’s seems intrusive, provides search results that are cut short from what I’m used to and it’s seems like Norton catches stuff snyway.

I had no idea being a mod was so dangerous !

I’ll have to check out city’s total, I never heard of that before.

Did you ever hear of docker for Firefox? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sandbox-browsing-using-firefox-docker-container-ivan-davidkov/

I just came across it on a financial site of all places. It’s some kind of virtualization app for browsing.
 

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I use Norton and it seems to catch a bunch of stuff, even stuff that attacks me from the web.

But I still wonder can I do more? It’s what its not catching that worries me.
Check out Sandboxie or similar programs. It's like a condom for your internet facing apps. Everything I remove or plan to remove from the sandbox (downloads) gets scanned with hitman pro free, malwarebytes free and Avira free as well as virustotal if the file is under 256MB.

If you want to find out how deep the security rabbit hole goes check out wilderssecurity forums "other anti-malware software" forum as well as any other forum that might interest you. I also recommend their "sandboxing and virtualization" forum.
 
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UsandThem

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Every year I renew I try safe search extensions and end up disabling them. It’s seems intrusive, provides search results that are cut short from what I’m used to and it’s seems like Norton catches stuff snyway.

It sound like you use it as the search engine. I agree as I don't like that either, but if you just use the extension, all it does is place a little box next to the results. Here is what I get by Googling for a free Windows 10 key (not really, just something I know that returns dangerous results). Green is OK, grey is unknown, orange should be avoided, and red means a user is really, really dumb for clicking on it.




I had no idea being a mod was so dangerous !

Yeah, we are the ones who have to see if stuff is safe to prevent users from clicking on dangerous stuff. I won't even get into how mentally dangerous it can be sometimes.


Yeah, I've seen that before. It's another smart way to protect yourself from some problems.
 

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CRV

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Thanks for the info and suggestions. I tried Bitdefender free version for a bit, until I got AVG Ultimate on sale. Bitdefender scans takes a long time.
 

Andrey Bailey

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If you using Windows 10 operating system friend than you will get Windows Defender on your PC or Laptop and I don't think you will need to download another antivirus software. I'm using Windows Defender 5 years never got any issue about using it and also no need to install another software on my laptop and PC.
 

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Windows Defender actually worked here a few weeks ago. I/m still in shock . The real time scan, which cannot be terminated apparently, found a prime virus and crushed it. I now sleep easier at night !
 
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