Visiontek CryoVenom 290 (EK block) In Antec 1100

[24601]

So I just impulse purchased the Visiontek CryoVenom 290 which looks to have an EK block

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7644/visiontek-at-ces-2014-the-r9-290-liquid-cooled-cryovenom

I have absolutely zero experience in water cooling, and would like to do a loop with just this card using only the 200mm top exhaust on my Antec 1100 case.

I would like to use something like this (or something similar)

http://store.antec.com/Product/cooling-cooling_fan/200mm-radiator/0-761345-75210-7.aspx

I don't know anything about pumps or fittings or reservoirs o.o;;

I would like to use quick disconnects as I hear that it is easier to constantly modify your rig if you use them.

Do you guys think that would be sufficient for an estimated 525-600w thermal load @60C @85F ambient?

Thank you for your help.

 

[Ninhalem]

First off I wouldn't use that Antec radiator in your case at all. The thing is made of aluminum which is definitely not going to play nice with the copper block portion of the GPU block.

If you're just cooling the GPU, you really don't need a big reservoir or pump. I would look at this small pump/reservoir combo from EK: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Professionally_Installed.html?tl=c107s152b133

You need to be careful with which QD's you choose and how you would integrate them into your loop.

You can setup the loop however you want. Just a quick loop: Pump/Res -> GPU -> Radiator -> Pump/Res.

Fittings are really dependent on what type of tubing you want to go with. I suggest sticking with clear Tygon tubing or something similar in the very beginning until you get more knowledge and help on pipe routing. There are several different types of fittings for regular Tygon tubing; first pick the size of your tubing and then go after the fittings which are either barbs or compression. Compression fittings will look nicer, but depending on what brand you get and how tight you go, you can tear up your fingers quick on the knurled surfaces.

 

[dma0991]

A basic setup should consist of a MCP-655 pump or a MCP-355 with a tube reservoir attachment, or you could go with either pumps and make do with a Swiftech MCRes. Cosmetic extras would be tube reservoirs or bay reservoirs.

For fittings, barbs as a basic requirement, compression for extra bling, elbows/angles for tight bends. QD will make it easier, IF you take out/change often. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother too much with it.

I don't know if the figure (525-600W) that you've stated is from a single card but I doubt its coming from a single card. Either way, I don't recommend using a 200mm here. The fan choices are limited and they're slow compared to 120mm fans. Larger diameter excels at CFM but you'll need fans with good static pressure, especially if the radiator has dense fins.

 

[24601]

I don't know if the figure (525-600W) that you've stated is from a single card but I doubt its coming from a single card.

At 1000 core 1500 memory, my system draws 433w @ the wall per 290/x for my current rig.

For the 1100-1175 core 1500 memory I will be shooting for, its highly unlikely I will be drawing less than 525w for my single card.

Either way, I don't recommend using a 200mm here. The fan choices are limited and they're slow compared to 120mm fans. Larger diameter excels at CFM but you'll need fans with good static pressure, especially if the radiator has dense fins.

My only other option would be 120mmx2 for single rad loop that would be remotely enough for my requirements (I think o.o).
It would extremely suboptimal though, since it would be on either the front of my case, or the inner front of my case, thus messing up the airflow majorly for the case.

I plan on being able to still use up to 3x 290/x cards with reference coolers in the case simultaneous to the liquid cooled Cryovenom 290.

If not possible, I would have to consider getting a new case or something o.o;;

 

[dma0991]

At 1000 core 1500 memory, my system draws 433w @ the wall per 290/x for my current rig.

For the 1100-1175 core 1500 memory I will be shooting for, its highly unlikely I will be drawing less than 525w for my single card.

Using a Kill A Watt device to measure from the wall will show how much power the PSU needs, not what the system needs. Unless you have a miraculous PSU that does a 100% efficiency conversion, you will have to take into account loss during conversion. For example, a 500W PSU with 80% efficiency will draw 625W from the wall.

Furthermore, you're calculating the TOTAL power consumption of the system (CPU, GPU, motherboard, HDD, etc), not the GPU itself. Total system power consumption doesn't matter when you're only interested in cooling the GPU.

My only other option would be 120mmx2 for single rad loop that would be remotely enough for my requirements (I think o.o).
It would extremely suboptimal though, since it would be on either the front of my case, or the inner front of my case, thus messing up the airflow majorly for the case.

I plan on being able to still use up to 3x 290/x cards with reference coolers in the case simultaneous to the liquid cooled Cryovenom 290.

Its pointless mixing air cooled GPUs with a single watercooled GPU. The benefit that watercooling brings (lower temps, lower noise) gets thrown out the window when lower temps is isolated to a single card and noise output would have been similar as you have noisy air coolers in the mix.

I would say that this is a half arsed hearted attempt and you should do watercooling on all GPUs that you're using to even make it worth the effort. But of course, its more $$ to be forked out.

 

[24601]

The only benefit I'm looking for is larger thermal capacity with an emphasis on VRM cooling. Any noise reduction is a bonus.

If this works out I will think about water cooling my other cards, but it is definitely not cost effective enough to do them all at once without testing.

My plan is to test the card to see what memory type it has, if it has Hynix, I will continue, if it has Elpida, I will ebay the card with the stock cooler from another of my cards and install the EK block on my 290x.

For power consumption, consult this:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2360073

The testing done by Elfear is with a low intensity workload of gaming.

I plan on having a medium intensity workload of Scrypt mining, and will undoubtedly have significantly higher power draw than the figures given in his review.

Liquid cooling all my GPUs would take at minimum 2000w @ the wall (likely with 2 PSUs) and would most definitely require a case like a 900D or similar.

Pumpx2 200 USD
Radiator x 3 300 USD
900D 300 USD
3x EK blocks 150 x 3 USD
Tubes/Fittings etc 100 USD
Another PSU 60-200 USD

Not to mention the fact that I would have to test that 290/x even works in 4x on the board in my case, as everyone else seems to be having problems with 4x 290/x.

 

[dma0991]

Yeah, its probably best to try out one GPU before deciding whether you should spend on the rest. But I'm pretty sure you'll be poisoned once you get a first look at the temps and noise of a watercooled GPU.

 

[24601]

Ok, the stupid GPU FINALLY shipped, so I can finally order the parts.

Please give your opinion on this parts list and/or list the things that are missing/wrong.

I plan on just piping the loop outside my case as I CBA to spend 300+ on a 900D and also because I plan on just using 2 quick disconnects (at some point) to attach/detach to the cards from the loop. I plan on expanding the loop to all 4 cards if this experiment is successful.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...version_Kit_317_GPH.html?tl=g30c107s153#blank

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...opper_Quad_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s1148

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ex_Pro_10_LT_-_100mm.html?tl=g30c97s166#blank

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ression_Fitting_-_Chrome.html?tl=g30c409s1609

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...r_Tubing_Reservoir_Strip.html?tl=g30c103s1676

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Non-Porous_Smooth_Tubing.html?tl=g30c457s1157

http://www.amazon.com/PneumaticPlus-...ds=tube+cutter

http://www.amazon.com/BitFenix-Spect...ords=140mm+fan

 

[24601]

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32094&start=20

 

[Hieumungous]

Your setup looks great.

 

[smackababy]

I don't think you will able to use compression fittings on the GPU block. I believe they are too wide to fit property. At least, that is how it looks in pictures. Everything else looks good. I'd order a bit of extra tubing, just in case you cut a length.

The rest of the stuff looks good. Obviously, you'll need more radiators to expand more cards, but as a test, this set up looks fine.

 

[24601]

I don't think you will able to use compression fittings on the GPU block. I believe they are too wide to fit property. At least, that is how it looks in pictures. Everything else looks good. I'd order a bit of extra tubing, just in case you cut a length.

The rest of the stuff looks good. Obviously, you'll need more radiators to expand more cards, but as a test, this set up looks fine.

They fit .

I think I'll hold off on watercooling the rest of the cards.

I plan on buying (290x x2)Vesuvius when it comes out since all 3 of my 290s have Elpida GDDR5, which is worthless.

That way I can have one less block to worry about as well.