Vista ANI Exploit Patch Plagued With More Problems

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Puffnstuff
When I tried to boot after installing the update windows wouldn't let me get past the activation screen. I tried retyping my key which it promptly rejected and basically I couldn't get past that screen. I then booted off the dvd with the network cable disconnected and used system restore to bring it back to the save point before I installed the update and rebooted. Everything works after I did that however I will not reinstall the update. There's a pile of threads over at ms forums about a huge number of different issues including the deactivation of a valid windows install. MS really screwed the pooch on this one.

Was there an option to activate by telephone, or were any other options presented?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Early adopters always get the shaft. The patch hasn't caused any noticable issues on my XP machine at work. I haven't installed it on my XP machine at home yet though. Haven't booted it in weeks.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: mechBgonIn practical terms, if you want to promote Linux, then if you make one simple web page helping newbies try it out

Indeed.
Do something useful, this anti-MS trolling just makes you look like a retard.
I'm probably the only one these boards who likes Solaris, but you don't see me running into every damn thread spamming about it, do you? The slight pokes at Nothinman/n0c/drag aside

 

[Nothinman]

There's a reason Linux isn't adopted on the desktop, and the legions of fanboys who act just like you are a big part of it.

And as bad as Quinton McLeod makes Linux users out to be (if he really is one), that reason has nothing to do with anything technically or usability related.

 

[Jeff7181]

I was trying to figure out what this thread was in "My Forums" because I didn't remember the thread title. Then I realized the orignal poster changed the subject and a bunch of crap in the original post. How pathetic... go masturbate to your Ubuntu live CD and LET IT GO.

 

[Thor86]

Only issue I had with these patches were Realtek HD audio drivers, but that was Realtek's problem, not Microsoft.

Realtek came out with new driver versions dated 3/30, and these installed before patching fixed the issue I had.

 

[Quinton McLeod]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: mechBgonIn practical terms, if you want to promote Linux, then if you make one simple web page helping newbies try it out

Indeed.
Do something useful, this anti-MS trolling just makes you look like a retard.
I'm probably the only one these boards who likes Solaris, but you don't see me running into every damn thread spamming about it, do you? The slight pokes at Nothinman/n0c/drag aside

lol. Answer this question. Am I really anti MS or am I anti Vista?
Name one post or thread that I ever said Microsoft sucks.
Now, name one thread in which I ever said Linux rocks.

Before I even mentioned Linux, you all thought I was an Apple fanboy. So now all of a sudden I'm a Linux fanboy because I own it. Yet and still, I said I advocated *nix and haven't pledge allegiance to any one OS. Whether it was OS 10, Unix, Linux or otherwise.

This is why none of you have an argument against me. The only thing you guys can do is either bash Linux (Ubuntu) or claim that I'm a fanboy of such OS. What makes it funny is that none of you have any proof of me praising Linux. Some of you are so quick to jump to Microsoft's defenses when Microsoft as a whole isn't being attacked at all. You call me a troll because I'm someone who actually notices a problem and decides to point out issues. Then you turn around and deny those issues.

The hard reality is that most of you are Microsoft zealots and fanboys. You deny the facts or at least lessen the urgency of them. You them put Vista (Microsoft) in a category of its own and attempt to bash what you think I'm sticking up for. lol This is hilarious.

Alright, to tickle your fancy, this will be the first post in which I have ever stood by any one OS. I'll go as far as to say that OS 10 is the most superior between all OSes as far as usability is concerned. OS 10 is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility. I admit that Macintoshes are high quality PCs and last much longer than most PCs on the market. Also, Mac users appear to know more about their PCs than PC users.

 

[stash]

Hardware compatibility? Is that a joke?

 

[Nothinman]

This is why none of you have an argument against me.

Many people here have plenty of valid arguments about your statments but all of your threads end up like someone yelling at the TV, no matter how loud we yell or repeat ourselves you just keep on talking like we're not even there.

You deny the facts or at least lessen the urgency of them.

And you blow them out of proportion and/or create new ones from webpages that don't really say what you think they do.

Alright, to tickle your fancy,

Actually tickling most people's fancy here would likely involving you simply leaving.

I'll go as far as to say that OS 10 is the most superior between all OSes as far as usability is concerned. OS 10 is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility. I admit that Macintoshes are high quality PCs and last much longer than most PCs on the market. Also, Mac users appear to know more about their PCs than PC users.

It's OS X, not OS 10, whether you pronoune it as "oh es ten" or "oh es ex" is unimportant but the spelling "OS X" is because it's a brand. I don't see you referring to Windows Vista as Windows View so why make an exception for OS X? And as for OS X's superiority, userfriendliness is subjective and I personally can't stand the limited UI they give you. And OS X's hardware compatibility is anemic compared to that of Windows or Linux so it's pointless to even talk about.

 

[Quinton McLeod]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

This is why none of you have an argument against me.

Many people here have plenty of valid arguments about your statments but all of your threads end up like someone yelling at the TV, no matter how loud we yell or repeat ourselves you just keep on talking like we're not even there.

You deny the facts or at least lessen the urgency of them.

And you blow them out of proportion and/or create new ones from webpages that don't really say what you think they do.

Alright, to tickle your fancy,

Actually tickling most people's fancy here would likely involving you simply leaving.

I'll go as far as to say that OS 10 is the most superior between all OSes as far as usability is concerned. OS 10 is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility. I admit that Macintoshes are high quality PCs and last much longer than most PCs on the market. Also, Mac users appear to know more about their PCs than PC users.

It's OS X, not OS 10, whether you pronoune it as "oh es ten" or "oh es ex" is unimportant but the spelling "OS X" is because it's a brand. I don't see you referring to Windows Vista as Windows View so why make an exception for OS X? And as for OS X's superiority, userfriendliness is subjective and I personally can't stand the limited UI they give you. And OS X's hardware compatibility is anemic compared to that of Windows or Linux so it's pointless to even talk about.

No, it's OS 10. You still don't get it do you? X is the roman number of 10. Because I type spoken English, I say 10. If I choose to call it OS 10, then let me call it OS 10. When most Macintosh users hear people say "oh es ex" it sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Don't preach to me about how to pronounce my verbiage. For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

Also, for a person who is so politically correct in versing the English language, you misspell a lot of words. Your grammar and punctuation could use some help. You over accessorize on commas when you should be using periods. Places that could use commas are left alone, so many of your thoughts appear fused together in one long sentence. Many of your sentences are run on sentences. You also start a lot of sentences off with conjunctive words such as "and" or "but". So, before you go off correcting me, you should correct yourself first. Thank you.

lol. User friendliness is subjective now, eh? Since when have you ever been "subjectively" speaking to me about anything? You always pass your opinions off as fact. So, the fact that you use such a technical word means that you have no way of proving which party is right or wrong on this subject.

Who ever compared OS 10 to Windows XP as far as hardware is concerned? When I buy a Macintosh, I know for a fact that 100% of the hardware in that Macintosh is compatible to the OS. Vista is a completely different case. Not all Vista machines have 100 percent compatible hardware inside of them. HP has been notorious for releasing hardware that isn't all compatible with Vista. So, before you go off trying to defend the fact that Vista was designed for multiple machines in mind, realize that when a customer buys a new PC, they aren't worried about that. They want their machines to work right out of the box without any extra setup.

 

[Nothinman]

No, it's OS 10. You still don't get it do you? X is the roman number of 10. Because I type spoken English, I say 10.

You're the one who doesn't get it, "OS X" is a brand whether or, not the X means 10, so OS X is correct and OS 10 is not.

When most Macintosh users hear people say "oh es ex" it sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Don't preach to me about how to pronounce my verbiage. For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

Good, now that I know that I'll make sure to emphasise my use of, "oh es ex", around Mac users. I can preach about whatever I want with as many or as few facts as I want, lord knows lack of facts never stopped you from preaching, or are you concerned I might take away some of your attention?

Also, for a person who is so politically correct in versing the English language, you misspell a lot of words. Your grammar and punctuation could use some help. You over accessorize on commas when you should be using periods. Places that could use commas are left alone, so many of your thoughts appear fused together in one long sentence. Many of your sentences are run on sentences. You also start a lot of sentences off with conjunctive words such as "and" or "but". So, before you go off correcting me, you should correct yourself first. Thank you.

I like run on sentences, and I like using commas, is that ok, with you? I want, all of my posts to read like, William Shatner speaking to you in your, mind. And frankly even if the structure of my posts isn't that great, and by the standards of this forum they're excellent, the content is what's important. But even so, I wasn't even correcting your english just your misuse of the term OS 10. Do you also call the BMW X5 a "10 5"?

For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

I have a friend with a few, but thankfully he sold the old PPC G5, replaced it with an Intel Mac, then put Vista on it.

lol. User friendliness is subjective now, eh? Since when have you ever been "subjectively" speaking to me about anything? You always pass your opinions off as fact. So, the fact that you use such a technical word means that you have no way of proving which party is right or wrong on this subject.

If you can't understand that two people might not find the same interface equally appealing and easy to use then maybe you should go out and interact with people some more. And you can't deny that the OS X UI is limiting. It's almost completely uncustomizable, so you either have to conform to Apple's way of thinking, or use another system.

Who ever compared OS 10 to Windows XP as far as hardware is concerned?

You did when you said "OS 10[sic] is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility." The fact that you said it has the "highest form" means you've compared it to something else and it, in your mind, is at the top of the list.

When I buy a Macintosh, I know for a fact that 100% of the hardware in that Macintosh is compatible to the OS. Vista is a completely different case. Not all Vista machines have 100 percent compatible hardware inside of them. HP has been notorious for releasing hardware that isn't all compatible with Vista. So, before you go off trying to defend the fact that Vista was designed for multiple machines in mind, realize that when a customer buys a new PC, they aren't worried about that. They want their machines to work right out of the box without any extra setup.

So? That's like saying that when you go into a restaurant you know that 100% of their merchandise is something you can eat but grocery stores are notorious for selling things like garbage bags and shampoo which I can't eat so restaurants are obviously better. There are hundreds or thousands of hardware vendors out there that sell machines to support Windows and/or Linux so singling out one or two and pointing to problems that they've had with an OS that's only been out for a few months is retarded.

 

[stash]

I like run on sentences, and I like using commas, is that ok, with you? I want, all of my posts to read like, William Shatner speaking to you in your, mind. And frankly even if the structure of my posts isn't that great, and by the standards of this forum they're excellent, the content is what's important

lol! This is without a doubt the greatest post of yours I've read

 

[Quinton McLeod]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

No, it's OS 10. You still don't get it do you? X is the roman number of 10. Because I type spoken English, I say 10.

You're the one who doesn't get it, "OS X" is a brand whether or, not the X means 10, so OS X is correct and OS 10 is not.

I don't care if it was buttered toast. I'm still calling it OS 10.

When most Macintosh users hear people say "oh es ex" it sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Don't preach to me about how to pronounce my verbiage. For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

Good, now that I know that I'll make sure to emphasise my use of, "oh es ex", around Mac users. I can preach about whatever I want with as many or as few facts as I want, lord knows lack of facts never stopped you from preaching, or are you concerned I might take away some of your attention?

You've spelled "emphasize" wrong.

Also, for a person who is so politically correct in versing the English language, you misspell a lot of words. Your grammar and punctuation could use some help. You over accessorize on commas when you should be using periods. Places that could use commas are left alone, so many of your thoughts appear fused together in one long sentence. Many of your sentences are run on sentences. You also start a lot of sentences off with conjunctive words such as "and" or "but". So, before you go off correcting me, you should correct yourself first. Thank you.

I like run on sentences, and I like using commas, is that ok, with you? I want, all of my posts to read like, William Shatner speaking to you in your, mind. And frankly even if the structure of my posts isn't that great, and by the standards of this forum they're excellent, the content is what's important. But even so, I wasn't even correcting your english just your misuse of the term OS 10. Do you also call the BMW X5 a "10 5"?

That's a paradox. How can you like both commas and run on sentences? Using either of the two negates the use of the other when used properly. Did you understand what I said when I said "over accessorize"? Meaning, you use commas too much in places that do not need them.

The content is what's important? You do realize that the English language is very sensitive. One word or punctuation mistake can completely change the meaning of a sentence. A good example that I like to use is the difference of, "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse".

I don't ride BMWs so, I would have no idea.

For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

I have a friend with a few, but thankfully he sold the old PPC G5, replaced it with an Intel Mac, then put Vista on it.

I have a cousin who's in the NFL. That doesn't mean I know everything there is about the NFL, now does it?

lol. User friendliness is subjective now, eh? Since when have you ever been "subjectively" speaking to me about anything? You always pass your opinions off as fact. So, the fact that you use such a technical word means that you have no way of proving which party is right or wrong on this subject.

If you can't understand that two people might not find the same interface equally appealing and easy to use then maybe you should go out and interact with people some more. And you can't deny that the OS X UI is limiting. It's almost completely uncustomizable, so you either have to conform to Apple's way of thinking, or use another system.

So far, I've heard no complaints about the Macintosh's GUI from anyone except you. I'm sure there are people out the who don't like it. However, there will always be someone out there that doesn't like something or some aspect of it. You, my friend, are the minority.

Who ever compared OS 10 to Windows XP as far as hardware is concerned?

You did when you said "OS 10[sic] is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility." The fact that you said it has the "highest form" means you've compared it to something else and it, in your mind, is at the top of the list.

Alright, Nothinman: the psychic. How can you tell what my mind is thinking from a simple text on your screen? By me saying that the Macintosh is unmatched in hardware compatibility is the same as Microsoft stating that Vista was created from the ground up. Apparently theres some text that needs to be read in between the lines somewhere. Were you caught in a wording trap? Perhaps so. I don't expect you to understand what I mean at all. English isn't really your strong point, after all.

When I buy a Macintosh, I know for a fact that 100% of the hardware in that Macintosh is compatible to the OS. Vista is a completely different case. Not all Vista machines have 100 percent compatible hardware inside of them. HP has been notorious for releasing hardware that isn't all compatible with Vista. So, before you go off trying to defend the fact that Vista was designed for multiple machines in mind, realize that when a customer buys a new PC, they aren't worried about that. They want their machines to work right out of the box without any extra setup.

So? That's like saying that when you go into a restaurant you know that 100% of their merchandise is something you can eat but grocery stores are notorious for selling things like garbage bags and shampoo which I can't eat so restaurants are obviously better. There are hundreds or thousands of hardware vendors out there that sell machines to support Windows and/or Linux so singling out one or two and pointing to problems that they've had with an OS that's only been out for a few months is retarded.

Awww... Are you saying it's unfair to compare Vista to the Macintosh OS 10, even though Vista is based from it? Who cares? Customers don't look at that. They are only worried about their machines working right out of the box. When I worked for Geek Squad, many people took their machines back because some aspect of their machine did not work under Vista. Do you think they care about the fact that just Vista came out? Of course not! You must also consider the fact that they are forced to buy a new PC with Vista since Microsoft does not allow 3rd party vendors (except Dell) to sell PCs with Windows XP. Go to your local Best Buy or Circuit City and see for yourself.

 

[Nothinman]

I don't care if it was buttered toast. I'm still calling it OS 10.

Buttered toast isn't a product name but Wonder Bread is and if you were to run around calling it Oneder Bread people would think you're retarded, just like we do here.

You've spelled "emphasize" wrong.

Crie me a rivar.

The content is what's important? You do realize that the English language is very sensitive. One word or punctuation mistake can completely change the meaning of a sentence. A good example that I like to use is the difference of, "I helped my uncle Jack off a horse" and "I helped my uncle jack off a horse".

That's pretty ironic considering that you're the one who's misunderstood the content of virtually every link you've used for evidence in this thread.

I have a cousin who's in the NFL. That doesn't mean I know everything there is about the NFL, now does it?

No but in this case it means I have used his machines enough to know that I don't like the UI, I bet you've also seen enough football to know whether not you like it too, right?

So far, I've heard no complaints about the Macintosh's GUI from anyone except you. I'm sure there are people out the who don't like it. However, there will always be someone out there that doesn't like something or some aspect of it. You, my friend, are the minority.

And you've taken your Mac around the world and polled everyone you could find? Whether I'm in the minority or not is irrelevant so the fact still remains true. And I'm sure if OS X was more of a gaming platform those gamers would be complaining left and right about how they can't change the way their Mac looks. The fact that Mac users themselves are the minority means that not enough people have been exposed to it to get a substantial amount of complaining going on.

Alright, Nothinman: the psychic. How can you tell what my mind is thinking from a simple text on your screen? By me saying that the Macintosh is unmatched in hardware compatibility is the same as Microsoft stating that Vista was created from the ground up. Apparently theres some text that needs to be read in between the lines somewhere. Were you caught in a wording trap? Perhaps so. I don't expect you to understand what I mean at all. English isn't really your strong point, after all.

It has nothing to do with whether or not I can read your mind, and I'm extremely glad that I can't, but with the fact that saying something is the best implies some sort of comparison or contest because saying something is the best when it's the only one of it's kind is pointless. If you can't understand that then you're the one with the linguistic problems.

Are you saying it's unfair to compare Vista to the Macintosh OS 10, even though Vista is based from it?

No, it's just that OS X isn't even competing in the same arena as Vista or Linux for hardware compatibility because Apple simply doesn't care. They stamp out their list of hardware that you're graciously allowed to use and you have to follow it. And please, tell me where came up with the idea that Vista is based on OS X?

They are only worried about their machines working right out of the box.

Most of them are probably more worried about their current applications and data still being usable and accessible on the new machine something that selling them a Mac would break, so again Apple isn't even a contender most of the time.

When I worked for Geek Squad,

That also explains a lot...

many people took their machines back because some aspect of their machine did not work under Vista.

And if you had sold all of them a Mac instead they would have assuredly brought them back because some piece of software that they need won't work.

You must also consider the fact that they are forced to buy a new PC with Vista since Microsoft does not allow 3rd party vendors (except Dell) to sell PCs with Windows XP. Go to your local Best Buy or Circuit City and see for yourself.

No one is forced to ever buy a new PC and I just looked at BestBuy.com and every non-Apple PC I looked at had Vista Home Basic listed as coming with it and none of them were Dells.

 

[Sunner]

This actually took a turn for the better, before it was just boring crap, now I'm finding it to be quite funny crap

Also, the MS/Windows fan boy comment will be a good reference the next time someone calls me a Linux fan boy

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Sunner
This actually took a turn for the better, before it was just boring crap, now I'm finding it to be quite funny crap

Also, the MS/Windows fan boy comment will be a good reference the next time someone calls me a Linux fan boy

I liked the part where nothinman was a Microsoft fanboi myself. That had me chuckling.

Nothinman for hero of the week for suffering fools so well.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Quinton McLeod
No, it's OS 10. You still don't get it do you? X is the roman number of 10. Because I type spoken English, I say 10. If I choose to call it OS 10, then let me call it OS 10. When most Macintosh users hear people say "oh es ex" it sounds like nails on a chalkboard. Don't preach to me about how to pronounce my verbiage. For a person who doesn't own a Macintosh with OS 10, you sure have a lot to say about it.

As someone who owns several OS X 10 machines, it's OS X. If you want the "10" in there, do it right: OS X 10.

lol. User friendliness is subjective now, eh?

It always has been. I find BSD more user friendly, when I'm the user. I find Linux less user friendly, when I'm the user. I find OS X mildly user friendly, when I'm the user. I find windows frustrating, when I'm the user.

My wife would probably disagree with me on every one of these accounts, when she's the user.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I'm a Windows and Microsoft fanboy.

 

[nerp]

Uh, commas can be part of a run-on sentence. Trust me. My editor scolds me about it when I'm getting lazy. A run on sentence isn't just an epic string of unbroken text. It can also be a pile of phrases seperated with commas. Run-on sentences are more about not being concise than anything.

 

[juktar]

Originally posted by: Quinton McLeod
When I worked for Geek Squad,

Now we know why you are the way you are LOL

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Quinton McLeod

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: mechBgonIn practical terms, if you want to promote Linux, then if you make one simple web page helping newbies try it out

Indeed.
Do something useful, this anti-MS trolling just makes you look like a retard.
I'm probably the only one these boards who likes Solaris, but you don't see me running into every damn thread spamming about it, do you? The slight pokes at Nothinman/n0c/drag aside

lol. Answer this question. Am I really anti MS or am I anti Vista?
Name one post or thread that I ever said Microsoft sucks.
Now, name one thread in which I ever said Linux rocks.

Before I even mentioned Linux, you all thought I was an Apple fanboy. So now all of a sudden I'm a Linux fanboy because I own it. Yet and still, I said I advocated *nix and haven't pledge allegiance to any one OS. Whether it was OS 10, Unix, Linux or otherwise.

This is why none of you have an argument against me. The only thing you guys can do is either bash Linux (Ubuntu) or claim that I'm a fanboy of such OS. What makes it funny is that none of you have any proof of me praising Linux. Some of you are so quick to jump to Microsoft's defenses when Microsoft as a whole isn't being attacked at all. You call me a troll because I'm someone who actually notices a problem and decides to point out issues. Then you turn around and deny those issues.

The hard reality is that most of you are Microsoft zealots and fanboys. You deny the facts or at least lessen the urgency of them. You them put Vista (Microsoft) in a category of its own and attempt to bash what you think I'm sticking up for. lol This is hilarious.

Alright, to tickle your fancy, this will be the first post in which I have ever stood by any one OS. I'll go as far as to say that OS 10 is the most superior between all OSes as far as usability is concerned. OS 10 is unmatched in which it provides the highest form of user friendliness and hardware compatibility. I admit that Macintoshes are high quality PCs and last much longer than most PCs on the market. Also, Mac users appear to know more about their PCs than PC users.

considering you are still spouting os 10 it's quite obvious you aren't an apple fanboy. most of us just assumed you were a troll above all else.

 

[Tegeril]

Are we finished yet?

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: Tegeril
Are we finished yet?

Heck no, there's more Critical updates coming out today to post FUD about! It's Patch Tuesday, remember?

/lawnchair

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
/lawnchair

/deckchair with S.S. Titanic across the back

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: juktar

Originally posted by: Quinton McLeod
When I worked for Geek Squad,

Now we know why you are the way you are LOL

LOL, I missed that, thanks for pointing it out. :laugh: