Vista now or wait?

Xarick

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I was thinking of going out to buy vista. I game and do excel stuff (also going out to buy excel 2007). Would it be worth it for vista now? Or should I wait until things are more mature?
 

Captante

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Unless you have some compelling reason to buy Vista I'd say you would be better off waiting ... regardless of some folks comments to the contrary there are still many applications which don't work properly.

I currently dual-boot Vista & XP-Pro but the only reason I bother is because I need to be familar enough with Vista to work on PC's running it.
 

Mem

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I have had no compatibility problems with software or games with my Vista x64 ,so for me it was worth the upgrade,however each user will have different experiences both good and bad,I think you should really decide for yourself and don't let people here sway you one way or the other.



 

Captante

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Its interesting because I've actually heard quite a few reports that folks are having less trouble with 64-bit Vista which is the last thing in the world I would have expected. I think that the drivers for the 64-bit version despite being a bit harder to find for some devices are receiving more care in the developement stage, so that by the time they get released more of the bugs are worked out.
 

fierydemise

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I've only run into one compatibility problem so far in a little over a month of using Vista and that is VLC has to switch into aero basic when playing video, otherwise no problems. That said I agree with Captante unless your building a new machine or have a real reason to need Vista I'd say it isn't worth it, it has nothing to do with Vista getting more mature it is simply learning the new interface and setting up from a new install takes time that I don't think is worth it without a compelling need. If you need to ask if you should get Vista you're better off waiting, if you really needed something that Vista offers you'd already have picked up a copy.
 

Canterwood

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I've got Vista running on a test box, and there's no way in hell I'd use it on my main rig atm.

I've hit far too many annoying issues so far.

I would wait till SP1, when hopefully things have settled down and there is better support.
 

Shawn

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I have had no compatibility issues with Vista. Every single program or game that I have tried to use has worked. I'd say that there is no reason to wait. Go for it.

edit: I am using the 32 bit version BTW.
 

corkyg

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Like Shawn, I have a separate machine that I have installed Vista on. After a week or so, I really got to like it, and now have it fully installed and loaded with all my required software. No problems at all. It is really good on my home network.

 

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Originally posted by: corkyg
Like Shawn, I have a separate machine that I have installed Vista on. After a week or so, I really got to like it, and now have it fully installed and loaded with all my required software. No problems at all. It is really good on my home network.

I've moved almost every non-server machine here at the house to Vista sans some development VM's which must be XP or 2k. Running Vista64, only driver issue I have is a ramdrive which isn't digitially signed (yet) so I need to hit f8 at boot to load unsigned drivers.

Everything else (games, tools, etc) is working fine. I've quickly grown to like it more than XP, I kinda get annoyed switching back now, just like I started disliking going from XP to 2K.


Bill

 

pulse8

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Just do your research. If the software you use is working in Vista and you want to make the switch go for it. If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.
 

Agrippa

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I've been testing it for a few weeks now, before building a new machine in a month's time, but there's just no way Vista is staying. No compatibility issues at all, but neither does it contain anything new which benefits me in any way. Lots of useless and annoying eye candy mainly, as well as security "features" I have no earthly use for. Thanks but no thanks, I'll be staying with XP or Server 2k3 x64, both of which run faster and smoother and have exemplary stability.
 

adam1130

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I know I haven't posted before but ...

I would wait a while. I've been running Vista Ultimate 32bit since February. Compatibility issues galore.

EX.

Nero 7, Nerovision

WMP has locked often

Vista claims Realtek Vista driver is not compatible

Dreamscene blows

AeroGlass is touchy


I have an extra Vista Ultimate OEM if anyone is interested haha
 

BehindEnemyLines

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.

But remember that only Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions have Shadow Copy (Previous Version). I'm confused why Microsoft excluded Previous Version from the Home Premium edition.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: BehindEnemyLines
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.

But remember that only Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions have Shadow Copy (Previous Version). I'm confused why Microsoft excluded Previous Version from the Home Premium edition.
Good point. The OP may find this page helpful for the feature charts: http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_02.asp

 

bigstrickler

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Originally posted by: BehindEnemyLines
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.

But remember that only Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions have Shadow Copy (Previous Version). I'm confused why Microsoft excluded Previous Version from the Home Premium edition.

Hey I was just wondering what is "Shadow Copy" exactly...thanks...also how compatible is it if your transferring files from xp to vista like word, excel and other files. Thanks
 

mauiblue

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I waited until now to install Windows Vista Ultimate (upgrade version). I had the money and the equipment (Vista Capable Toshiba Qosmio notebook less than a year old) so I decided to jump in. It took a couple days to find the correct RAID driver then I found that I couldn't just upgrade over the factory installed OS (Win XP MCE 2005). I had to install a copy of Win XP Pro that I had then install the Vista upgrade over that. After I got that done, it was just a matter of installing the basic Toshiba software and drivers from the support web site. Everything is running smoothly and I am satisfied with the results. I even installed a trial copy of Office 2007 Pro. Eventually I will also purchase that.

To me, sooner or later I would have installed Vista and I felt this was the right time. XP support will be ending so why not get use to Vista now. BTW, I like the new eye candy.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Shawn
I have had no compatibility issues with Vista. Every single program or game that I have tried to use has worked. I'd say that there is no reason to wait. Go for it.

edit: I am using the 32 bit version BTW.

I second this. I am a heavy gamer, audio/video encoder and have had ZEROroblems.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: adam1130
I know I haven't posted before but ...

I would wait a while. I've been running Vista Ultimate 32bit since February. Compatibility issues galore.

EX.

Nero 7, Nerovision

WMP has locked often

Vista claims Realtek Vista driver is not compatible

Dreamscene blows

AeroGlass is touchy


I have an extra Vista Ultimate OEM if anyone is interested haha

Wierd. I use Nero7 all the time with no issues. Dont like Dreamscene? Turn it off I also use Realtek and have found Vista's drivers actually work better than Realteks.

Just my experience
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: adam1130
I know I haven't posted before but ...

I would wait a while. I've been running Vista Ultimate 32bit since February. Compatibility issues galore.

EX.

Nero 7, Nerovision

WMP has locked often

Vista claims Realtek Vista driver is not compatible

Dreamscene blows

AeroGlass is touchy


I have an extra Vista Ultimate OEM if anyone is interested haha

Wierd. I use Nero7 all the time with no issues. Dont like Dreamscene? Turn it off I also use Realtek and have found Vista's drivers actually work better than Realteks.

Just my experience

And Aero (just Aero now) is touchy in what way? It's very quick, pretty and the one glitch I had, a second cursor showing up on my second monitor at boot-up, was fixed by a video driver reload.

 

Mem

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Originally posted by: adam1130
I know I haven't posted before but ...

I would wait a while. I've been running Vista Ultimate 32bit since February. Compatibility issues galore.

EX.

Nero 7, Nerovision

WMP has locked often

Vista claims Realtek Vista driver is not compatible

Dreamscene blows

AeroGlass is touchy


I have an extra Vista Ultimate OEM if anyone is interested haha



No problems with my Nero 7 and Vista x64 HP


WMP working fine too.

I'm using Audigy 4 soundcard rather then onboard sound , Creative Labs drivers working fine on my PC..

Dreamscene not available on HP version,don't need it anyway.

AeroGlass working fine on my PC.

Vista X64 HP rocks!!!!!!!(well at least on my PC ).


 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.

All of those features are useless if the things he wants to do on his computer on a regular basis he can't because the software doesn't support Vista yet.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: pulse8
If you find that you will have to make compromises to install Vista, then why do it?
Improved security capabilities (including easy use of non-Admin accounts), DirectX 10, parental controls if needed, and effective support for tons of RAM would be some reasons to at least consider it. For a guy working with Excel, Shadow Copy might be handy in those occasional ohnoseconds, too.

All of those features are useless if the things he wants to do on his computer on a regular basis he can't because the software doesn't support Vista yet.
...which is a wonderful thing about dual-booting, or installing XP or 2000 in a virtual machine inside of Vista as an alternative. Have your cake, and eat it too

I know there can be drawbacks. I can't use my beloved Win95-era Sidewinder 3D Pro gameport joysticks in Vista, for example. So I guess it depends on one's priorities. Running the Vista Upgrade Advisor would be a good idea for anyone trying to find out what incompatibilities they might end up with.

 

russki

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I would say wait, but not because of MS, but because video card drivers and sound card drivers are sucky at best right now, creative just plain sucks and nvidia and ati are just catching up...
 
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