Vista video drivers = welcome to the suck

[JasonCoder]

<rant>

Been trying to load x86 and x64 ultimate (legally, I'm an MSDN subscriber) and I can't get my x850 AGP to run aero unless I do the ACPI hack under x86. Great, have to run on one core... system boots back up, looks good for a few minutes and then grinds to halt with 100% CPU utilization.

Try to load ATI's RTM drivers and they are classified beta. What a joke. Figure I've had it with ATI's lameness... on to NVidia. Guess what, thier sh!t is in beta too. WTF. These guys waiting on the January release to the masses before they get their heads out of their asses or what?

</rant>

Well so I guess the only solutions are to wait on Vista until drivers mature or suck it up with sh!t graphics until then.

 

[A1CSpence]

Yes they do suck. I don't understand why Nvidia doesn't have decent drivers yet. Vista has been in development for how long? The TV out doesn't even work!

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder
These guys waiting on the January release to the masses before they get their heads out of their asses or what?

Yes.

I would expect release drivers from ATI and nVidia in January at the latest. With luck it may be within the next few weeks.

 

[Nothinman]

These guys waiting on the January release to the masses before they get their heads out of their asses or what?

Duh. And it's kind of ironic that they were the first manufacturers with 64-bit drivers for XP64 too. But you're essentially a beta tester, you can't really complain when you jump into something brand new with both feet like that.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

These guys waiting on the January release to the masses before they get their heads out of their asses or what?

Duh. And it's kind of ironic that they were the first manufacturers with 64-bit drivers for XP64 too. But you're essentially a beta tester, you can't really complain when you jump into something brand new with both feet like that.

Hmm I don't think it's a "duh" as Vista has had a stable DDK for a good while and especially with the late slide into November they had ample time.

Here's hoping they get some good driver support out soon for Vista.

 

[Genx87]

I dont know, my old 6800GT ran fine in Vista.

/shrug

 

[Nothinman]

Hmm I don't think it's a "duh" as Vista has had a stable DDK for a good while and especially with the late slide into November they had ample time.

Time isn't the only resource they need, there's a lot of hardware combinations to test to do proper QA. All I can really say is that I didn't have any problems with the beta nVidia drivers in Vista, but I also only used it for like 20 minutes while I installed a game, tried it and then removed the drive to boot back into Linux.

 

[Smilin]

Good DDKs or not, the OEMs have been aiming at a moving target so they have put minimal resources into things. The drivers during beta were 'proof of concept' type stuff. Now that the target has stopped moving I'm quite sure heavy resources are being brought to bear.

End of January at the latest. Likely much sooner.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I dont know, my old 6800GT ran fine in Vista.

/shrug

Do you have a dual core system?

 

[InlineFive]

I believe that if you use the nVidia WDDM drivers provided with Windows you will be fine.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: InlineFive
I believe that if you use the nVidia WDDM drivers provided with Windows you will be fine.

Not with my x850 XT PE

 

[Bozo Galora]

http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35979

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/990/2

 

[Smilin]

I loaded the nVidia 96.33 drivers last night and HL/Source is now working properly.

7960gx2 video card here.

Those drivers are several versions old and cannot be found on nVidias website. I think I found them on FileFront or something.

 

[spyordie007]

Nice, just after I opened this thread the 96.86 drivers bombed out on me (running a 6600GT)...

Thankfully Vista can just reload them and doesnt bluescreen :thumbsup:

I'm also waiting for NVIDIA to come out with some new drivers.

 

[andrewbabcock]

Vista sux /thread.

 

[Smilin]

Why is it again we don't do vacations for useless thread crapping?

 

[JasonCoder]

Well it appears I own an apology to ATI on this one. Through some research I was able to find out that the AGP drivers for my mobo (ASRock DUAL SATA2) have an issue with Vista. Dunno wtf is up with that but if you go to the VSTA branded version of this board you can download the AGP patch and it works great. Evidently ASRock didn't feel the people with the regular non Vista branded version needed to have this patch... *sigh*

Yes, that's right, the brand of my mobo is Ass Rock. And yes, I'd really like it if you people post up about how my mobo sucks. That would be great .

Now if only ATITool worked in Vista.

 

[Nothinman]

Isn't it awesome how bad hardware manfacturer's screw up and then expect software drivers to work around their problems? It's actually kinda funny when you see how much code in Linux is spent just working around PCI "quirks", ACPI non-conformance and just other general hardware braindeadedness.

 

[JasonCoder]

Looks like there's still an issue with standby. Namely, I can't get video to come back. Hard reboot was the only fix.... ouch.

Aero is pretty nice. I've used OSX (circa 2003) and it's a bit better IMO. I've got a custom bios on my vid card and I'd like a way to ratchet up the fan on it. Gonna have to spelunk some more to find something that will work in Vista (no ATITool don't work from what I'm seeing).

Anyways definitely still some work to be done in these drivers (OpenGL missing in ATI's, for instance).

 

[wamasters]

Whole thread kinda baffled me folks. I've been running a 7600GT based video card under Vista for a while. Not very many problems encountered (except for the lack of OpenGL support in the beta and release candidate versions). Does anyone know if OpenGL is supported in the final version (under anyone's drivers)? I remember Microsoft originally didn't plan to support it natively, but weren't they going to change that?

 

[Seeruk]

Originally posted by: JasonCoder
looks good for a few minutes and then grinds to halt with 100% CPU utilization.

You do realise when you first install... it imeediately starts indexing files which takes a while?

on to NVidia. Guess what, thier sh!t is in beta too. WTF.
Well so I guess the only solutions are to wait on Vista until drivers mature or suck it up with sh!t graphics until then.

I'm using the 97.27 beta drivers and they aint bad. I'm playing MTW2 on full effects, huge armies, and 1680X1050 with very decent performance (say 90% of performance in WinXP)

 

[spyordie007]

I'm using the 97.27 beta drivers and they aint bad.

Where did you find 97.27? 96.85 is the latest I've been able to find for Vista on the nvidia.com site.

 

[JasonCoder]

Originally posted by: Seeruk

Originally posted by: JasonCoder
looks good for a few minutes and then grinds to halt with 100% CPU utilization.

You do realise when you first install... it imeediately starts indexing files which takes a while?

This was after several reboots... it wasn't the first or even fifth reboot. And indexing is supposed to be on a background thread... i.e. the UI will still update. In my case it just hammered down and then froze.

Originally posted by: Seeruk
I'm using the 97.27 beta drivers and they aint bad. I'm playing MTW2 on full effects, huge armies, and 1680X1050 with very decent performance (say 90% of performance in WinXP)

Lovely. The ATI drivers ain't bad either now that I figured out my mobo issue. Haven't tested them in a game but supposedly they are farther along then NV in D3D. Neither one of them have SLI/Crossfire support yet, regardless of what they show off at trade shows.

Loved MTW1... probably pick up MTW2 after the bugs are fixed and after a realism mod is out.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: spyordie007

I'm using the 97.27 beta drivers and they aint bad.

Where did you find 97.27? 96.85 is the latest I've been able to find for Vista on the nvidia.com site.

here here. speak up man! Where are the 97.27s?

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Smilin

here here. speak up man! Where are the 97.27s?

Try this,

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XCZL476W