vista wtf?

xNIKx

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"It should come as no surprise that the ever-performance minded Alienware debuts its chassis with Intel's new Core 2 Duo chip. Our review system came with the 2.93GHz Core 2 Extreme X6800, the top dog in the Core 2 Duo stable and also the overall CPU performance leader. Alienware even gave it a boost, overclocking it to 3.26GHz. Paired with 2GB of 800MHz DDR2 SDRAM, the Nforce 590 SLI chipset, and two 512MB GeForce 7900 GTX 3D cards, this Area-51 7500 competes against the Dell XPS 700, the Falcon Northwest Mach V, and other recent high-end systems outfitted with Intel's latest CPU. The only system we've tested that's faster than the Alienware is the Velocity Micro Raptor DCX, which won on all but a single benchmark. That doesn't mean that the Alienware is slow, especially considering that the Raptor DCX costs $1,000 more. The only pinch you might feel is when Vista hits and you find that your 3D cards don't support DirectX 10 and the latest gaming features that new API will bring. That problem is common to all of the reviewed systems, however, and won't change until ATI and Nvidia release their next-gen 3D cards. "

I was reading a cnet review about that new alienware, and i came accross this. They say cards will not longer support DX 10. Im planning on buying a 7900GT so after Vista comes out i will need a new card?

 

Ika

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DirectX 10 is compatible only with Vista, and isn't backwards compatible with other direct-Xes. You won't need a new card, but if you want to play DirectX10 games, you'll have to. G80 and R600 supposedly support DirectX 10.
 

nitromullet

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No, you just won't have a DX10 compatible card. It will take time for there to actually be any games that take advantage of DX10, and by that time any card out today will probably be inadequate anyway.

edit: I'm more irritated that Alienware has nForce 590 SLI chipsets for Intel when they aren't available to rest of us yet.
 

A554SS1N

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Originally posted by: xNIKx
so ill be safe buying the 7900GT?


For now, yes, as it'll work in DX9 mode in Vista perfectly Ok - tbh, when Vista is finally released, and by the time the initital bugs are fixed via a 1st service pack, more than a year will have passed, so you may as well go with that card now. No point worrying about DX10 yet.
 

Gstanfor

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Yes, apart from a couple of "show off" titles, it will take approx 18 months for DX10 to show any sort of impact over DX9 (was the same story for DX9, DX8, DX7). DX10 cards will likely be faster than current DX9 cards overall, but that won't have anything to do with their Dx10 capabilities, just improved architecture, memory tech & core speeds.
 

xNIKx

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when dx10 comes out will istill be able to play older games like black and white 2 and css?
 

xNIKx

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when vista comes out will it be free to upgrade to dx10, and i mean if i dont get a dx10 card and just keep my 7900GT can i still play games
 

Gstanfor

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No, it won't be free to upgrade to DX10, because DX10 will run only on vista and above. There is talk that DX10 may not ship with vista, just DX9.L
 

xtknight

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Isn't Vista shipping with DX10 at stock?

Yes, you can play DX9 games on Vista if you have a DX9 compliant video card.

Edit: NM, just saw above post.
 

Gstanfor

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Not 100% sure myself yet. It may only be the basic versions of vista that ship like that initially (apparently the basic edition of vista will limit you to the classic (read 2000/xp) gui and not aeroglass).
 

xNIKx

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i dont under stand this hole visita thing, what is vista? once it comes out if i dont purchase it will i still be able to play new games that come out?
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: xNIKx
i dont under stand this hole visita thing, what is vista? once it comes out if i dont purchase it will i still be able to play new games that come out?

Vista... is an operating system. Just like Windows XP. Actually, vista is really called Windows Vista. If you don't get Vista, you won't be able to play games are are programmed to use DirectX 10, but you can play everything else.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: xNIKx
oh, so i just install vista on my computer and i can play dx10 games.

Depending on if Vista comes with DX10 or not. If it doesn't, then you'll have to manually install DX10, but Vista is the only one that will let you utilize DX10 in the first place. So, to answer your question, technically possibly not, practically yes.
 

JBT

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Originally posted by: xNIKx
how else will i be able to get vista

Just like any other MS OS. Buy it in a store just like windows 2000 or XP or it will come preinstalled on a PC that you purchase.
 
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