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ttown

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Originally posted by: deejayshakur
Originally posted by: ttown
What does "unusable" mean? can't receive calls? can't initiate calls? works, but has echos?
unusable = outbound and incoming calls connect fine. then after 5-10 minutes, the other party (regardless of if they called me or if i called them) cannot hear my voice or sounds become garbled. i can always hear them fine.

i'm almost certain that i'm using the latest fw for my dlink (i'll have to double check when i get home from work tonight).

diagnosis?
Does it start failing 5-10 minutes into a call regardless of if the gizmo is before or after the router?
YES: maybe failing gizmo hardware... touch it after 10 minutes on the phone and see if it's hot/warmer than usual. The problem showing up 5-10 min. into a call would be usefull info for a SR tech to know, so if/when you talk to a SR tech, tell them. If web-browsing on a PC connected to the gizmo lan-port is noticably affected at the same time, that would be stronger indication of bad hardware. (browsing works fine during the start of a call, but 10 minutes in to a call browsing starts sucking). Call SR, maybe for gizmo replacement, or firmware upgrade. (I don't know what is most current offhand)
NO, just behind the router: maybe an issue with the router or router settings. Look for the Denial-of-service settings in your firewall setup section and adjust-up any configurable parameters. Update your router firmware. Unplug all the PC's on your router to see if the problem persists. Maybe turn off all firewall functions (temporarily, just for diagnosis) on your router.
Still with the gizmo behind your router, turn off wifi and unplug all PC's from your router; is the problem still there?
YES: still maybe an issue with router/firmware
NO: DEFINATELY an issue with your router/firmware. Add one thing back at a time till the problem comes back.

Do a "tracert www.sunrocket.com" from a command prompt. How many "hops" does it take? (don't be alarmed if you see a 'request timed out' just before it shows you sunrocket). I get there in 7 hops. Do a "ping www.sunrocket.com" from the command prompt... what's the normal (average) response time? Mine is 80-90ms.

editM me and we can stop posting your specific diagnosis dialog. I'll do what I can to help
 

laketrout

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Originally posted by: ttown
Originally posted by: laketrout
Check this out...

Go to the sunrocket web-site and click on the phone that the parrot is standing on... INSTANT PROMO CODE. Heh. Enjoy
Now, why would anyone do that when there's so many willing referers here!
Same promo, plus you help a fellow AT'er out....

Information is good my friend. And I thought it was a clever little SR thing.

 

KingofJungle

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OK.
Just want to add my .2 cents for SunRocket service.
So far so good no problem at all. Clear voice both ways.
Got my package within three days. Setup on same day and I was able to make calls and receive calls. I didn't had to wait for 10 days for incoming calls.
Here is my Information:
ISP: earthlink.com Cable 5Mb down /386Kb up ~ 450KB down/ 42 KB up.
Put my gizmo behind the router as I have Linksys router with DD-WRT firmware.
I know little bit of scripting so I created my own QOS for my router.
First Attempt:
Give my Gizmo 150Kbit ~ 18KB up and 400Kbit ~ 50KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was really bad for outgoing. Incoming was clear better my POTS line.
Second Attempt:
Give my Gizmo 160Kbit ~ 20KB up and 800Kbit ~ 100KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was really clear both directions. I would hear some echo on my end sometimes. Try three ways conference call and problem happen again only incoming call was clear and both outgoing was like the kind of like first attempt with few second delay for other party hearing me.
Third attempt:
Give my Gizmo 200Kbit ~ 25KB up and 800Kbit ~ 100KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was clear on both directions. Three way conference call was clear as well.

As I don't do that much of P2P, only my cousin and my brother whom I'm sharing my connection used P2P software. I have give them the reset of my upload bandwidth give my gizmo a static upload of 20KB and download of 100KB while increasing if needed if other don't used it.
It been a almost a month now and voice is still clear.
I made few International calls and voice was like clear compare to my POTS line. Voice sounded like I was talking my family member if there was like here.

Now just hoping that this Company last long.
 

astrosfan90

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KingofJungle, if you don't mind me asking, where did you call? Int'l calling is one of the main reasons I'm looking at VOIP, so I'm curious to hear anything about it. I'd mostly be calling to Latin America and Russia, so want to see how the call quality is.

Also, I understand Sun Rocket has an international "allowance" of $3/month--how's this working for you?
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: KingofJungle
OK.
Just want to add my .2 cents for SunRocket service.
So far so good no problem at all. Clear voice both ways.
Got my package within three days. Setup on same day and I was able to make calls and receive calls. I didn't had to wait for 10 days for incoming calls.
Here is my Information:
ISP: earthlink.com Cable 5Mb down /386Kb up ~ 450KB down/ 42 KB up.
Put my gizmo behind the router as I have Linksys router with DD-WRT firmware.
I know little bit of scripting so I created my own QOS for my router.
First Attempt:
Give my Gizmo 150Kbit ~ 18KB up and 400Kbit ~ 50KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was really bad for outgoing. Incoming was clear better my POTS line.
Second Attempt:
Give my Gizmo 160Kbit ~ 20KB up and 800Kbit ~ 100KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was really clear both directions. I would hear some echo on my end sometimes. Try three ways conference call and problem happen again only incoming call was clear and both outgoing was like the kind of like first attempt with few second delay for other party hearing me.
Third attempt:
Give my Gizmo 200Kbit ~ 25KB up and 800Kbit ~ 100KB Down
Static IP for Gizmo by Router.
Voice was clear on both directions. Three way conference call was clear as well.

As I don't do that much of P2P, only my cousin and my brother whom I'm sharing my connection used P2P software. I have give them the reset of my upload bandwidth give my gizmo a static upload of 20KB and download of 100KB while increasing if needed if other don't used it.
It been a almost a month now and voice is still clear.
I made few International calls and voice was like clear compare to my POTS line. Voice sounded like I was talking my family member if there was like here.

Now just hoping that this Company last long.
Thanks for the analysis. I was looking for a project this weekend and will probably play with QoS of the Alchemy Firmware on my WRT54G and your findings give me a good jumping off point.
 

dabuddha

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One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.
 

lotust

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.

another reason not to buy. I have the same annoying thing. I thought it was just me
 

GTFan

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Just found out from the FW thread that SR will not roll your calls to voicemail if your net connection or gizmo is offline. You either get a dead call or a fast busy because the SR servers can't talk to the gizmo. They apparently know about it and are supposedly working on the 'failover' feature for implementation this summer.

Uh, if that's true, they're idiots. This should've been in from the beginning.
 

KingofJungle

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Originally posted by: astrosfan90
KingofJungle, if you don't mind me asking, where did you call? Int'l calling is one of the main reasons I'm looking at VOIP, so I'm curious to hear anything about it. I'd mostly be calling to Latin America and Russia, so want to see how the call quality is.

Also, I understand Sun Rocket has an international "allowance" of $3/month--how's this working for you?

I made calls to London and India.
Both were good quality calls. No echos no break up or slow response.
For my understanding the way VOIP works is the better the upload speed the better the other person can hear you. Also, your download speed has been good to hear the other person on the call. So if you look at my last post. I did some QOS setting on my router as I wanted good voice quality when I or my family members calls anyone in US or International.

Regards,
KingofJungle.
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.
I think the fast busy when someone hangs up is normal....
However, 1/4 of outbound calls resulting in a fast busy sounds like you have connection problems that are not in SR's realm of control.

I think the easiest way to make it work, and quit messing with stuff is: increase your routers DoS settings to the maximum on every parameter, then plug the gizmo onto the lan side of the router. Plug the phone in the gizmo. Plug in the power. Done. No more than 10 minutes.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: ttown
Originally posted by: dabuddha
One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.
I think the fast busy when someone hangs up is normal....
However, 1/4 of outbound calls resulting in a fast busy sounds like you have connection problems that are not in SR's realm of control.

I think the easiest way to make it work, and quit messing with stuff is: increase your routers DoS settings to the maximum on every parameter, then plug the gizmo onto the lan side of the router. Plug the phone in the gizmo. Plug in the power. Done. No more than 10 minutes.
It is in SR's realm of control. I had vonage before SR and I never had any problems making or receiving calls.
 

Rat007

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well guys i got my service up and running finaly
and my inbound calls worked immediately and if i
unplug my gizmo my calls go straight to voice mail
so far so good
 

Jlensbo

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You have an answering machine? Do people have problems with echoes when thry talk to your machine?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 

Jlensbo

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Originally posted by: skadoo323
sending and receiving faxes works just fine. i got this partially for that reason as well. now i don't have to worry about someone being on the phone when i expect a fax or having to wait for others in the house to get off the phone just to send a fax. lol

My problem with faxing is that the two machines seem to connect, but then nothing happens!
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: Jlensbo
Originally posted by: dabuddha
One thing I hate is that when someone hangs up, i automatically get a fast busy signal. So my answering machine records the fast busy signal. Also, 1 out of 4 calls results in the fast busy signal as well.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You have an answering machine? Do people have problems with echoes when thry talk to your machine?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

No one has complained to me about that problem. Yet.
 

deejayshakur

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so it's been almost 72 hours since SR techs said they'd get back to me about my trouble ticket.

i've searched around for a solution myself, to no avail. if i don't get a call tonight, or get this resolved soon, good thing i'm still within my 1 month trial.

can't wait for viatalk to roll out...
 
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SOUND QUALITY COMPARISONS FINALLY POSTED!

As I mentioned earlier, I did some sound quality comparisons between SunRocket and Verizon POTS. I have taken the time to post these on the web so those interested can compare and analyze them.

I have 2 samples from SunRocket and 2 samples from Verizon. #1 on both is the same phone number, and #2 is the second number. Click or right-click on the waveforms/links to listen/download the MP3 samples.

Comments/analysis will be appreciated and may be added at the bottom of the page.

Here they are: VoIP Sound Comparisons

Enjoy!

Tek.
 

georgepa

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deejay-

Is it possible that your problem is hardware related? When you mentioned that your speed was cut in half I remembered seeing the same phrase in a recent review.

Here it is:

>>>>Only problem i had was in the beginning, for some reason, with the gizmo in, the internet download speed i had got halved. i found out it was the incompatibility between the gizmo and the old motorola cable modem i had (sb4100) so i exchanged the modem for the latest one (at the cable company) and sure enough, full speed and perfect phone service.

Its now about a month since i have it and am very happy. I have so much freedom now with the phone and the price is unbeleivable. Before this, just to keep a line without making any calls and without any features (with the line charge, fcc surcharges, taxes and other forms of theft) would cost about the same much....<<<<



Maybe your modem is at fault like it was for this person?
 

mfbf

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Originally posted by: georgepa
deejay-

Is it possible that your problem is hardware related? When you mentioned that your speed was cut in half I remembered seeing the same phrase in a recent review.

Here it is:

>>>>Only problem i had was in the beginning, for some reason, with the gizmo in, the internet download speed i had got halved. i found out it was the incompatibility between the gizmo and the old motorola cable modem i had (sb4100) so i exchanged the modem for the latest one (at the cable company) and sure enough, full speed and perfect phone service.

Its now about a month since i have it and am very happy. I have so much freedom now with the phone and the price is unbeleivable. Before this, just to keep a line without making any calls and without any features (with the line charge, fcc surcharges, taxes and other forms of theft) would cost about the same much....<<<<



Maybe your modem is at fault like it was for this person?


That is the cable modem I have and recently the sound quality has been horrible. I own my modem, so trading it in is not possible. Anybody else have this modem and have crystal clear calls? Anywhere to get a new modem and a relatively inexpensive price?
 

georgepa

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Unlike other VOIP's who don't even offer 911 (i.e. Voicepulse) most of SR's customer base already enjoyed E-911 as part of their base plan. The rest will be put on E-911 within 30 days, well ahead of the FCC mandated schedule. Good going, Sunrocket.


Sunrocket is in the news this morning:

YAHOO's ARTICLE ABOUT SUNROCKET'S E-911 SCHEDULE



SunRocket First VoIP Company to Connect on E-911


Press Release Source: SunRocket

SunRocket First VoIP Company to Connect on E-911

Thursday May 19, 8:00 am ET
Internet Phone Company to Provide Enhanced 911 Throughout Service Area Within Thirty Days; Expects to Meet New FCC Requirements Ahead of Schedule

VIENNA, Va., May 19 /PRNewswire/ -- SunRocket, one of the nation's leading Internet phone service providers, has announced that it expects to meet ahead of time the new Federal Communications Commission requirements for E-911 that will be issued later today. While the order is expected to require that all VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) providers implement Enhanced 911 (E-911) capabilities within the next several months, all SunRocket customers in the company's service regions will be equipped with E-911 within 30 days.

"E-911," short for "Enhanced 911," indicates a technology that allows emergency services to identify the physical location and call-back number of the caller. SunRocket automatically provisions E-911 for customers when they establish service, utilizing wholesale network partners to access the traditional emergency 911 infrastructure.

"SunRocket has been committed since inception to provide Enhanced 911 emergency support," said Paul Erickson, chairman and co-founder of SunRocket. "The majority of SunRocket subscribers have been provided Enhanced 911 from the start, and we are extending E-911 throughout our entire service footprint as fast as possible."

The rising popularity of VoIP has highlighted concerns about access to emergency services. Unlike traditional telephone service, many VoIP providers do not route 911 calls to emergency call centers together with the location information and name of the caller.

By carefully assigning phone numbers matched with the legacy service areas for those phone numbers, SunRocket can enable E-911 for customers today without requiring expensive modifications. Currently, the traditional E-911 infrastructure cannot easily accommodate "out-of-region" phone numbers and "nomadic" scenarios, where consumers might transport their VoIP equipment between different locations. When the E-911 infrastructure is enhanced to support these situations, SunRocket will also support those applications.

"Consumers expect E-911 with home phone service," continued Erickson. "We feel so strongly about this at SunRocket that we no longer sell our service in areas where we cannot ensure access to E-911. Fortunately, our wholesale network partners are equally committed to this imperative, and we applaud the efforts of Global Crossing and Broadwing Communications to enable E-911 for SunRocket customers. As we expand our service footprint via additional wholesale partners in the coming weeks, E-911 will remain an essential ingredient."

Among nationwide VoIP providers, SunRocket already leads the pack in E- 911. Other VoIP providers require customers to "opt-in" to some form of 911 service. Many providers offer a limited version of 911 service that does not automatically send location information or ensure routing to the appropriate emergency dispatch operator. Some actually charge extra for optional E-911 functionality, and still others provide no 911 service at all. In supported service regions, SunRocket automatically provisions E-911 at no extra charge. In regions where E-911 is not readily available, SunRocket no longer allows consumers to establish service. For existing SunRocket customers currently outside of E-911 regions, SunRocket is working on upgrade solutions.

Due to the risk of broadband service disruptions, even with E-911 support, VoIP customers need to a have an alternative means of accessing emergency service, such as a cell phone. Also, Internet phone customers should consider the use of a battery backup to supply power to the high-speed modem, VoIP adapter, and a cordless phone in the event of a power outage.

"SunRocket is known for being the 'no-gotcha' company, and that includes E-911," said Erickson. "From the outset, we have strived to build a better phone company, and on something as important as 911, we're going to give you the very best capabilities we can, we're going to fully disclose the constraints, and we're going to help you choose the best and safest option for your home," he continued. "No gotchas."

About SunRocket

Headquartered in Vienna, Virginia, SunRocket, the "no gotcha" phone company, is bringing Internet phone service to mainstream America with the nation's first full-year, flat-rate home phone package. SunRocket is the only company to offer complete Internet phone service at an all-inclusive, bottom- line annual price of $199, with no hidden charges, termination penalties or "gotchas." SunRocket makes it easy for households with high-speed Internet access to take advantage of the incredible value and enhanced capabilities of state-of-the-art Internet telephony. Blue Run Ventures is the lead investor in the privately-held corporation. For more information, see the company's web site at »www.SunRocket.com.
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Source: SunRocket
 

RideFree

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SR FAQs

I would love to see this list expanded on. Just the greatest tips from the A/T forum would be all we need.
A/T is the greatest forum in the galaxy.
SunRocket is best in VOIP, unquestionably.

PS I just googled SR FAQ and saw a $999.00 VOIP for life.
Now, who would spend five year$ in advance for a product that will only get cheaper in time?
 
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Originally posted by: mfbf
Originally posted by: georgepa
deejay-

Is it possible that your problem is hardware related? When you mentioned that your speed was cut in half I remembered seeing the same phrase in a recent review.

Here it is:

>>>>Only problem i had was in the beginning, for some reason, with the gizmo in, the internet download speed i had got halved. i found out it was the incompatibility between the gizmo and the old motorola cable modem i had (sb4100) so i exchanged the modem for the latest one (at the cable company) and sure enough, full speed and perfect phone service.

Its now about a month since i have it and am very happy. I have so much freedom now with the phone and the price is unbeleivable. Before this, just to keep a line without making any calls and without any features (with the line charge, fcc surcharges, taxes and other forms of theft) would cost about the same much....<<<<



Maybe your modem is at fault like it was for this person?


That is the cable modem I have and recently the sound quality has been horrible. I own my modem, so trading it in is not possible. Anybody else have this modem and have crystal clear calls? Anywhere to get a new modem and a relatively inexpensive price?

I have the SB4100 and SR works great. The best. I don't see what the cablemodem would have to do with the "sound quality" if your up/down speeds & consistency are good. I have my Gizmo behind my D-Link 604 router. I tried in the beginning in front of the router and my speed dropped from 1000 to 700 down. You must check the speed and consistency of your connection. The best way it to download a large file like the ms xp sp1 and to try to send to a fast site. You should use DU-Meter to view the actual data transfer and see if it's smooth of interrupted. The testing sites like the visualware one should also be good, but I only trust more extended testing where I can see what's going on. SR needs a minimum of 90 kbps up. Most cable connections are at least 300 kbps up. I have about 1000 kbps up on OptimumOnilne.

Tek.
 

deejayshakur

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i think i might try the gizmo behind the router again, just to see. my modem is a brand new dsl speedstream 5100, and while it may be incompatible with the gizmo, i would fault the gizmo not the modem. modem only=works fine. modem+gizmo=doesn't work fine. problem? gizmo.

anyway, my trouble ticket has been sitting for almost 96 hours now. i am told it would be address by engineering today. the clock is ticking, so hopefully i'll get a response or a new gizmo. i haven't even called to get my week without functioning voip credited to my account.
 

schipperke

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:Q

I signed up Monday and was up Wednesday afternoon!
Tried the gizmo after the router and get a slight echo, and had a call drop.
Called my friend back on my POTS, and he said he could hear everything I was saying but I could not hear him. I just installed the gizmo directly to the cable modem , (modem>gizmo>router) to see if this is better. I don't like that it responds to a ping, and shows port 68 closed. The worst part is, all you need to do is type your WAN IP in the browser, (not the 192.168.251.1, but your assigned internet IP) and anyone can get in to the gizmo. I changed the password, and advise others to do so.
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: schipperke
:Q

I signed up Monday and was up Wednesday afternoon!
Tried the gizmo after the router and get a slight echo, and had a call drop.
Called my friend back on my POTS, and he said he could hear everything I was saying but I could not hear him. I just installed the gizmo directly to the cable modem , (modem>gizmo>router) to see if this is better. I don't like that it responds to a ping, and shows port 68 closed. The worst part is, all you need to do is type your WAN IP in the browser, (not the 192.168.251.1, but your assigned internet IP) and anyone can get in to the gizmo. I changed the password, and advise others to do so.
I assure you that your your gizmo cannot be logged into from the outside internet with or without a password. For your inbound voice, make sure your DoS settings on your router (when the gizmo is behind a router) are either set high(er than 'normal') or off.
 
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