VOIP SunRocket Internet Phone Service $199 for 15months = $13.27/month

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alextn

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this service seems to be pretty good. I'm looking to sign up for the $199 package... do you guys think that this is a good idea? I mean SR isn't going bankrupt anytime soon right?

Also do any of you know where I might get the phones? That's the main reason I want to sign up, to get the Uniden phones.
 

GTFan

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The good:
- it's one of the cheapest, no setup charge, no taxes/fees, and you get unlimited local and LD minutes, plus $3.00 worth of int'l every month
- gets (generally) good reviews on dslreports.com
- lots of features for the money, including E911 and free second phone number (inbound only for now, supposedly they will activate it for real on the second gizmo line this summer).
- sound quality is mostly good
- 2 free phones with no strings attached, keep em if you don't like the service
- full refund of unused months if you want to quit
- if you're a fanboy like georgepa (aka georgepan), you can get referrals to pay for your service

The bad (hijacked from FW's quick summary):
- Suspect reliability. Many outages of 30 minutes to over an hour in the last month. Was down for an hour and a half last Friday, for example. Unfortunately, this is not uncommon in VOIP land, as few seem to be willing to pay for full network redundancy.
- Calls don't roll to voicemail if your net connection is down, or SR takes a dump. Instead it gives a fast busy or blank silence or plays recording that the line doesn't exist to the caller. This is scheduled to be fixed by end of summer.
- Some features like forwarding don't work. They are working on this. Tkt is still open.
- Customer/technical support has tremendous backlog. More than a week to 10 days to call you back for escalated support.
- Random reports of echoes on calls, heard by either caller or calling person. Bad enough at times to mess up calls to automated prompt systems.
- Fax and Tivo may or may not work, but they're not officially supported.
- Caller ID, for many, only shows number, no names. Has been promised to be fixed for months, and is supposedly going to be fixed (again, promised) by 5/25.
- If you port your old phone number to SR, there have been cases where the number will go dead for a day or more until it gets added to their system. This may or may not be SR's fault, and you may or may not know until you try it.

Summary:
Enjoy the cheap service and features when it works, but make sure you have plenty of cellphone minutes.
 

ttown

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Interesting artical HERE about the FCC's push for E911....
Along with CHAT about it here....

regarding how the e911 "mandate" is actually a bad thing in disguise

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ImSeeker... some talk over at broadbandreports hints at possibly making your gizmo non-functional via what _was_ posted over there.
I, for one, will pass up that little hax (which I don't believe is "complete"). I've seen enough of the config files to make an educated guess that messing with your rom version could be a very bad thing.
But hey... if you (or anyone here) is successfull, post your results.
 

Robor

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I signed up a while back and hooked it up without issue. I could make calls out right away and my open SR number worked for incoming calls. The problem? If you're downloading or worse yet uploading a lot of data the person on the other end is going to have a hard time hearing you. I've had mine disconnected for a while. Maybe I'll try hooking it back up and see if it's any better. Right now it's a waste of about $165 for me. I sold my phones for $35 or something.
 

xEDIT409

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Originally posted by: alextn
this service seems to be pretty good. I'm looking to sign up for the $199 package... do you guys think that this is a good idea? I mean SR isn't going bankrupt anytime soon right?

Also do any of you know where I might get the phones? That's the main reason I want to sign up, to get the Uniden phones.

The deal comes wih 2 phones. Use someone elses number before you sign up (like mine ) and you get an extra phone!
 

alextn

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Hi Xedit,

WHen'd you sign up for the deal? Because i"ve looked over their page over and over and I can't find any writing anywhere to suggest them offering 2 phones.
 

xEDIT409

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Originally posted by: alextn
Hi Xedit,

WHen'd you sign up for the deal? Because i"ve looked over their page over and over and I can't find any writing anywhere to suggest them offering 2 phones.

Check your private messages.
 

upss

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May 10, 2005
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alextn,

email me for a promo code, you will get 2 free phone and I will get 1 phone!
 

georgepa

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Alextn-

You don't have use someone else's phone number as the promo code. On the Sunrocket frontpage just click on the phone the bird is standing on and you see the two-phone deal. It probably would be good to use someone's promotional code instead, as that gives someone a $25 credit.



As for hateboy GTFAN's post: Classic case of someone with self-inflicted problems blaming the world. Heck, his Con list isn't even his own, he recopied it from some other hateboy from another forum.

Since I personally have installed SR for 13 differing parties, and all, without fail, have enjoyed the service so far, here are the real Pros and Cons:


Pros:

- overall price - $16.58 for unlimited calling in the US and Canada
- no startup fees of any kind, no cancellation fee
- 2 free phones
- $3 allowance for overseas calls - 100 free minutes to countries like Germany, UK
- crystal clear sound. Codec used by SR is probably the best for VOIP, also used by Vonage and Broadvoice.
- only provider that already gives you E-911 as part of the basic service. Everybody else is scrambling.
- second incoming number free. You may even choose it to be an "Anywhere Number," which means that you can assign a differing area code to it, allowing local calls for friends or family. Altrnatively you can give that second number to your wife or teenager (I gave it to my wife.) It has its own voicemail and is allows full control.
- Call forwarding - functions very well. You have options of forwarding to one number or multiple numbers.
- Rewards program - If you like the service you'll probably show others. If they sign up you will have rewards pending. However, these referrals have to be happy with the service, as they have to be with SR for a minimum of 31 days. That usually is never a problem. 9 out of 10 appear happy with SR.


Cons-

Occasional outages. Far and few between. There was one last Friday, lasted about 90 minutes. Three weeks ago SR had an issue where for 3 days in a row the phone went dead for about 45 minutes each. But that is not a typical. It is an issue with all VOIP providers, as they are dependent on multiple partners simultaneously. Someone who believes that building in network redundancy would solve most outages simply does not understand how VOIP is structured.

Failsafe transfer - In the event of an outage there is no failsafe, so folks who call you get only dead air. If it is your service that shut down (power outage, your ISP has an outage) SR calls will eventually go to voicemail, but not right away. SR is working on a solution to transfer all calls to a cell phone or voice mail if the service has a problem. A solution is in the works and should be available soon, but is not yet.

- Missing Busy Redial - I would like the option to have the system automatically redial a busy number until the call connects.

- Softphone - It would be nice to be able to use a Softphone while travelling. The Gizmo can travel and you can actually take your personal phone number anywhere you can plug into a broadband connection, but it would be more convenient if I could leave my gizmo setup at home intact, so the wife and kids can use it, and I could use a Softphone on my laptop when travelling. The way it is now I can only pack the Gizmo when we all travel together.

Check out SR's GBU rating at BroadbandReports:

http://www.dslreports.com/gbu


Review rating:

http://www.dslreports.com/reviews/2521

Note that SR with an 84% customer satisfaction rating is 2nd amongst all VOIP providers

Call Quality rating is 89%, which puts SR first amongst all VOIPs.


BTW, if someone talks about echoes as an issue it is usually a sign that their setup has an issue. Maybe they are running SR through a faulty router or they simply don't have enough bandwidth to use any VOIP at full satisfaction. Get as much bandwidth as you can afford, both D/l and U/l, put the gizmo behind the router and you should not have call related issues.
 

ajf3

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- second incoming number free. You may even choose it to be an "Anywhere Number," which means that you can assign a differing area code to it, allowing local calls for friends or family. Altrnatively you can give that second number to your wife or teenager (I gave it to my wife.) It has its own voicemail and is allows full control.


Anyone know if the 2nd incoming "anywhere" number can be assiged a different COUNTRY code or does it need to be a U.S. number?
 

georgepa

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Macro2-

Their site is weak. Everything is "Coming soon." Even for the features area? Their prices are nothing special. $22.95 for month to month or $19.99 with yearly commitment? Doesn't look that great. Do they send free phones, charge zero setup fees and include $3 int'l calling? If not, where is the value?
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Macro2-

Their site is weak. Everything is "Coming soon." Even for the features area? Their prices are nothing special. $22.95 for month to month or $19.99 with yearly commitment? Doesn't look that great. Do they send free phones, charge zero setup fees and include $3 int'l calling? If not, where is the value?

i thought yearly was $17/mo... and even then, you can still cancel i believe, you get pro-rated.
 

argoldst

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I also want to get a 2nd phone. First one to pm me with all the info will get it.

I do not know how this promo works so I need FULL information.

Thanks.
 

mfbf

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I wonder if anybody can help. When I use the phone, I hear the other person crystal clear but they say I am breaking up constantly (ie. worse then a cell phone). I have to contact SR tech again but was wondering if anybody has any ideas.

I have modem->gizmo->router and it still doesn't help.
 

Macro2

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RE:"Macro2- Their site is weak. Everything is "Coming soon." Even for the features area? Their prices are nothing special. $22.95 for month to month or $19.99 with yearly commitment? Doesn't look that great. Do they send free phones, charge zero setup fees and include $3 int'l calling? If not, where is the value?"

They are just starting up. Like SunRocket was.

22.95 on a monthly basis is better than SunRocket. Yearly basis SunRocket is cheaper for a year. ViaTalk is cheaper for 2 years.

Packet 8 is cheaper than either on a month to month basis. $19.95/mo.
Some people just don't/or can't afford to sign up for a year.

OTOH, I'm all for competition.
Bring it on.

When will SUnRocket have all US area codes covered.

Hows the bandwidth usage compared to Packet 8s?
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: mfbf
I wonder if anybody can help. When I use the phone, I hear the other person crystal clear but they say I am breaking up constantly (ie. worse then a cell phone). I have to contact SR tech again but was wondering if anybody has any ideas.

I have modem->gizmo->router and it still doesn't help.

Have you tried modem -> router -> gizmo?
 

GTFan

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I stand by what I posted, regardless of what 'georgepa' (or pan, or whatever) says. It's not all milk and honey, no matter how bad the fanboys want it to be so. But it is cheap.

Caveat emptor.
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: mfbf
I wonder if anybody can help. When I use the phone, I hear the other person crystal clear but they say I am breaking up constantly (ie. worse then a cell phone). I have to contact SR tech again but was wondering if anybody has any ideas.

I have modem->gizmo->router and it still doesn't help.
Any other network activity? Like file-sharing or other up/down loading?
If so, turn it off while your diagnosing issues.
Also, you might try a speed test -- go HERE and run the "speed test" near the bottom of the page.
Hopefully, you have 150+Kbps UP. I think ~100Kbps is "required minimum" -- but the higher the better.
If that looks good, try re-seating all your cables. If there's a dirty connection, it may be introducing noise. Also, maybe try a different wired phone... just to rule out wireless interference.
Do a "ping www.sunrocket.com" from the command prompt. I get ~88ms average with little variation. If yours is significantly higher, you may have a lame ISP, or are just unlucky.
If all those tests seem OK, then calling SR is pobably a good idea. It may be that they'll upgrade your firmware. (can be done on-line... you don't have to mail it back)
PM me if you want to chat more.... or post here.

hth
 

EvilYoda

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Alright, problems again...hooked the gizmo up on Sunday and everything was (surprisingly) fine through that evening...yesterday I started getting DNS resolution problems again and it got worse and worse until nary a page could be found. It seemed to be 50/50 this morning, but it's still annoying as hell. I have just a single computer plugged into the Gizmo now and it seems to be working fine.

I've reset the router every single time I hook up the Gizmo...how should I go about dealing with this DNS issue? I don't want to use other DNS servers, I should be able to use the ones I'm provided...thanks all, I'm getting awfully close with tossing SR and trying out someone else.
 

ttown

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Alright, problems again...hooked the gizmo up on Sunday and everything was (surprisingly) fine through that evening...yesterday I started getting DNS resolution problems again and it got worse and worse until nary a page could be found. It seemed to be 50/50 this morning, but it's still annoying as hell. I have just a single computer plugged into the Gizmo now and it seems to be working fine.

I've reset the router every single time I hook up the Gizmo...how should I go about dealing with this DNS issue? I don't want to use other DNS servers, I should be able to use the ones I'm provided...thanks all, I'm getting awfully close with tossing SR and trying out someone else.
The gizmo shouldn't be affecting DNS in any way. What are your dns settings? (command prompt: "ipconfig/all") Is it the address of your gizmo? ...or of your router? ...or of your ISP's dns?
If you've turned off PC's and things seem much better, it could be a virus on one (or more) of them. Do you happen to be running a DNS server of your own? Maybe it has been poisoned.
Who's your ISP? Maybe they are having DNS poisoning issues. Comcast had major issues about a month ago.... maybe your ISP is too.

I'm 99% sure your problems are NOT with the gizmo....
 

georgepa

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GTfan-

Nobody expected otherwise. I stand by mine, and 89% Call Reliability from many reviewers backs it up. No matter what some hateboys have to say. Just a little poor that you would cut and paste a CONS list from some other hateboy on another forum rather than bringing your own.


Macro-

Actually, Sunrocket is $19.99 on a monthly basis (using a promo code) whereas Viatalk charges $22.95. Considering that SR doesn't charge shipping (this Viatalk does,) and they ship two cordless free phones, SR is clearly the better deal, that's even without considering the $3 allowance per month in international calls. But, of course, the more competition, the better. But this Viatalk isn't it. If you are looking for the lowest unlimited national deal (lowest price) there is Linefire.com, ($16.95 per month) but they are pretty small and new and don't give away any phones and int'l call allowance.


Broadvoice was a great deal for those needing tons of international minutes, but with the massive problems they are currently having I am looking for another international specialist to recommend to my int'l clients. Even with the free $3 SR offers someone who calls overseas a lot would benefit from such a provider. I hope SR adds some of those specialty international calling plans in the future, actually.
 
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