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astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: georgepa

astrofan-

With current promotions (the latest one came out today) you really can't beat this deal. That is IF your grandmother makes any kind of long distance or international calls. You can probably find DSL for around $20 per month. Add SR with one of the promotions offered and her phone price can go as low as $6 per month (if she is a prolific int'l caller, at most $11 or so, anyway you slice it.

Did I say grandmother? I meant mother, sorry.

And yeah, she calls international all the time--my father works in Russia, but she's moved back to the US as he's within a few years of retiring and she wants to start settling into the community where they're going to retire...I think she's tired of living abroad. Anyway, yeah, she calls him and vice versa all the time. I think it's silly for them to be paying POTS rates for them to call one another, and since I've had nothing but great experiences with SunRocket myself, I'm trying to talk her into it. I'll look into DSL for her, I hadn't thought of that.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Robor, I would tell you to go back to POTS, but to tell the truth I have never had more problems with a single outfit than I had with VERIZON. Billing messed up, lines severed, voice quality terrible to the point not even dial-up internet gave a decent connection, now with FIOS more nightmares from their ineffective and utterly terrible billing and tech departments. If not SR I would have gone with anyone else but these clowns. I am barely hanging onto them for my FIOS connection, will probably switch away from them to RoadRunner to get rid of these idiots once and for all.
Really? I have to admit that Verizon has been nothing but trouble-free for me. No billing issues and all of their features work like a charm. I can't remember my phone ever being out. Even during the bad storms and hurricanes my phone is always alive. My only gripe is paying $50/month for their service. I may give Vonage another call tonight and see if I can get somewhere with the CallerID thing. Just goes to show you, it isn't just Sunrocket.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: georgepa
Robor, I would tell you to go back to POTS, but to tell the truth I have never had more problems with a single outfit than I had with VERIZON. Billing messed up, lines severed, voice quality terrible to the point not even dial-up internet gave a decent connection, now with FIOS more nightmares from their ineffective and utterly terrible billing and tech departments. If not SR I would have gone with anyone else but these clowns. I am barely hanging onto them for my FIOS connection, will probably switch away from them to RoadRunner to get rid of these idiots once and for all.
Really? I have to admit that Verizon has been nothing but trouble-free for me. No billing issues and all of their features work like a charm. I can't remember my phone ever being out. Even during the bad storms and hurricanes my phone is always alive. My only gripe is paying $50/month for their service. I may give Vonage another call tonight and see if I can get somewhere with the CallerID thing. Just goes to show you, it isn't just Sunrocket.

Yeah, I'm another one who's had problems with Verizon. I just didn't stick around to see what else would come. I signed up for their bare-bones no-frills "just give me a line to plug a phone into for local and incoming calls and 911" line (which cost more than my SunRocket line, btw), and within 24 hours it stopped working. I called them, and they told me it was a problem with the wiring on my end (which made no sense given that it worked for at least a day before crapping out) and they would happily send someone out to fix it if I couldn't. For a few hundred dollars, equivalent to about half of what I was to pay for a year's service anyway.

I cancelled the service, paid a dozen bucks or so for the prorated few days I had the service, and eventually found my way to SunRocket.
 

georgepa

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robor-

Over the years VERZION was one headache after another. It was not so much India-based support that irked me with hard to understand conversation, but the "hard" mistakes that were made.

It is true that dialtone was usually a given, but with everybody here having cell phones the other intangibles were more important to me than that. It probably started going downhill about 7 years ago. I had dial-up internet with Internet Junction, a local oufit. I could never get 56K dialup to work, the best I could do was around 24k. I called Verizon tech support and found that after a test my line was measured as a 40 out of a possible 200, dirty. Of course there was no fix for it, so I had to live with inferior signal for both data and voice. My international calls were never crisp, just ok for the most part. But the worst was the constant snafus. My wife would get on the phone with them and after about 3 hours of holding, rerouting because she was transferred to the wrong department (and had to hold 20 minutes to find out) and explaining what was wrong over and over would be completely exhausted at the end of the call. We were overbilled rather than underbilled (I wish) about 5 times a year, in need of dreaded calls to rectify.



My FIOS experience has been equally horrid. Of course, I won't search out FIOS threads or sites to "warn" prospective customers ad nauseum, but that's another topic.


I signed up for FIOS in May. There have been 4 outages so far and 3 billing issues, since yesterday a 4th one.


Outage #1: No internet. Call to Verizon. "Must be an issue with your modem. we'll send someone out." Turns out the Dlink modem/router had burned out after just a couple of months. 2 days without FIOS. (My neighbor has RR and I moved my laptop close to that side of the house to piggy-back onto his wireless to at least check email.)

Outage #2: No internet. Call to Verizon. "A fiber cut in Florida has resulted in service being out for the entire state. We are working on the issue..." All day outage. Late at night it comes back on. Two days later a recorded phone message apologizing for the issue and a promise to compensate somehow. Of course, no compensation was ever given. When I asked about the promised compensation I was told that was a different department, nobody knows.

Outage #3: No internet. Call to Verizon. Maybe the modem? "But you guys just replaced it recently." Hmmmm. Let's do some testing. "Looks like your outside line is not getting internet." Next afternoon the outside line had to be rebuilt. 1.5 days without service.

Outage #4: No internet. Call to Verizon. "Your service does not exist, it has been cancelled as of last night." "Say what?" Turns out a billing issue gone haywire started an automatic process of termination. What was the issue? Well, when I went to "naked" FIOS I had to give them a credit card. Somehow the credit card was not entered correctly. However, since May SOMEONE ELSES credit card was charged with my service. When they discovered the mistake the months of service charged to THAT PERSON'S credit card were credited back to him and my account went into default. Of course I had no idea this snafu happened to them, so I was flabbergasted that without a phone call or email announcement my service was turned off. I spent 4 hours on my cell (driving between appointments) last week getting to the bottom of this issue with this crappy company. At 1:30 PM we finally got the issue rectified, the rep apologized for the comedic error parade, my credit card was billed properly. I was told that service should be back on within 2 to 4 hours, but that in this circumstance they would work dilligently to speed this up, as it was their fault. However, to add insult to injury, on my way home that evening around 7:00 PM I found out from my wife via cell that internet (which means also internet phone) had not returned back yet. Called Verizon again to find out that someone bungled the work order and left it sitting there. I held on the phone until the rep got with a guy in the "turning on" department and it took another hour until that was done. I could call that day's outage Outage #5, but it technically was still related to the issues related in outage #4.

As you can imagine, billing problems again galore, part of these problems. They lost my credit card info. Some other guy was charged with my account month-by-month. The latest: Yesterday I received a postage-paid label to send back my equipment. If I don't do so within 30 days I'll be charged $99. I NEED the flipping modem to continue getting FIOS service, and it would be patently silly for me to comply and send the modem back just to receive another modem to continue with the service, let alone service interrupting. So, since they are so absurdly incompetent, I have to get back on the phone to explain to these idiots that I did not cancel my service, it was a cancellation by error and I am once again a FIOS customer. If I don't subject myself to the phone torture I will undoubtedly be charged $99 and perhaps my service will be once again disconnected.

I am probably going to switch to Roadrunner, away from the disaster VERIZON. The truth is, if there had been a phone service that allowed me to ditch Verizon while costing the same (we spent around $100 each month between local, interstate, intrastate and international, including signature number package) I would have done that gladly.
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Hulk

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Anyone using SunRocket with DSL? How's it working?

I'm using cable internet and it works perfectly. I'm wondering if it'll work for my parents, they have DSL.

 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: Hulk
Anyone using SunRocket with DSL? How's it working?

I'm using cable internet and it works perfectly. I'm wondering if it'll work for my parents, they have DSL.


Yeah, I'm curious about this as well as I think I'm going to get my mother set up with a DSL line.
 

Robor

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George -- Wow, that is a HUGE list of issues. I'm glad I never ran into anything like that with Verizon as far as service/billing. Since you mentioned bad billing I'll tell you a story about Circuit City.

I picked up a 50" Sony HDTV, stand, cables, and warranty with 24 months no interest. First bill arrives and I see there's interest on it. I called the finance company (Bank One) who pretty much blew me off and told me to call Circuit City. Called Circuit City and they said it couldn't be fixed over the phone - I had to bring my receipt in and have it rerung in the store. I did.

Next bill arrives and same deal - interest on everything. I call Circuit City again and explain the situation. They want me to come down to the store. I tell them, not going to happen - either fix it over the phone or come get it. They (allegedly) fix the problem. The next bill arrives and this time they managed to get my cables on no interest but my TV/stand were still getting charged. Another call to Circuit City and this time I speak to a manager who says he'll take care of it and to wait until my next billing cycle to make payment. I do and Bank One hits me for a late fee *and* notes it on my credit as 30 days past due. WTF?!

It took nearly 6 months for them to get my bill straightened out. I will *NEVER* shop at Circuit City again. *NEVER*
 

gibster

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Originally posted by: Robor
George -- Wow, that is a HUGE list of issues. I'm glad I never ran into anything like that with Verizon as far as service/billing. Since you mentioned bad billing I'll tell you a story about Circuit City.

I picked up a 50" Sony HDTV, stand, cables, and warranty with 24 months no interest. First bill arrives and I see there's interest on it. I called the finance company (Bank One) who pretty much blew me off and told me to call Circuit City. Called Circuit City and they said it couldn't be fixed over the phone - I had to bring my receipt in and have it rerung in the store. I did.

Next bill arrives and same deal - interest on everything. I call Circuit City again and explain the situation. They want me to come down to the store. I tell them, not going to happen - either fix it over the phone or come get it. They (allegedly) fix the problem. The next bill arrives and this time they managed to get my cables on no interest but my TV/stand were still getting charged. Another call to Circuit City and this time I speak to a manager who says he'll take care of it and to wait until my next billing cycle to make payment. I do and Bank One hits me for a late fee *and* notes it on my credit as 30 days past due. WTF?!

It took nearly 6 months for them to get my bill straightened out. I will *NEVER* shop at Circuit City again. *NEVER*

You define a new term: customer fatal
 

georgepa

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gibster-

LMAO. Instead of "femme fatale," eh? Good one.



Hulk-

DSL works fine with Sunrocket. Only issue with DSL was always that you usually had to keep at least a stripped-down landline to even be allowed to have DSL. Recently many have gone to offer "naked" DSL with no local landline service required. SBC and Verizon had to agree to start offering DSL "naked" as part of a deal with the FCC to allow their merger. I am not sure if they already are offering it. If you want to use SR in addition to the lowest priced measurerd landline (incoming only, charged by the minute for outgoing, even local) you would be paying $8.50 plus various taxes (~$18 after that) for the landline, then add the DSL charge. Not a bad thing to have as backup and "always on" 911. If you want to save and ditch landline altogether (and rely on cell as your backup) look for naked DSL. If you can't get that you may be able to get a local cable deal for around $30 per month, which would probably come cheaper than a "local line/DSL" package.

The only other thing to watch for is that you get more than 128KB upload, otherwise you'll be able to hear perfectly (good download speed) but others will hear you garbled at times.
 

gibster

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Looks like SR quietly went around and turned off the WAN administration hole. I hope they don't keep on resetting this feature, as now since I have the gizmo back behind my firewall, I actually want to be able to access it from the WAN side.
 

georgepa

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laketrout-

You have a PM waiting for you.



All:

2 new things related to rewards:

1. This morning I received an email that through December SR doubles all new reward points. What that means is that from now on until Dec. 31 every new signup is worth 50 points, which equals $50. One reward therefore nets $50 worth of Amazon.com or Best Buy cash, or a complete phone set (base unit plus handset.) 2 referred customers can net a $100 American Express Cash Check or $125 worth of Amazon.com cash.

2. One of the best uses for Rewards cash can be had using a $25 certificate for Giveanything.com. You can click through to one of their many participating stores (such as Sharper Image or Linen's and Things) with the one I found the most bang for the buck to be Restaurant.com. Type your zip code, set it to a 30 mile radius and select the Restaurant of your choice. A $25 certificate is listed as costing $10, and with a special promotion code you can shave off another 60% off that, meaning a $25 gift certificate to the local restaurant of your choice (from the Restaurant.com selection) will cost you only $4. The special promotion code to shave off 60% is 45665
 

notanotheracct

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in relation to the above post, i'm a potential new signup with a few questions. i've read through various parts of the 100 pages so far over the last 2 months and understand about the potential for outages and certain services not working etc, but the main question that comes to mind is hows the sound quality? and is there any way to alter it (64k, 54k or whatever)?
i know the sound quality in the end depends on your ISP, but i just want to make sure that the service can potentially sound just like POTS - which i'm pretty sure i saw confirmed somewhere in the thread. if anyone has anything else important that i may have forgotten or not considered, i'm listening. i'd like to be someones referal/signup too so if georgepa (two of your posts have been great, the last one and the one about the 3 free months, $100 int, or free phones) or any other thread contributor is interested PM me. always looking to help a fellow AT'er


i wanna apologize in advance too; i'm not 100% sure i'll switch to SR but if i do it'll be no later than this tuesday. i'm currently coming off a 30-day trial of optimums triple play package and need to decide if its worth keeping (the VOIP and internet have been great, IO tv hasn't been to my liking), or if i should stay with directv and get verizon DSL & SR. i'm gonna be calling alot of companies tomorrow... wish me luck.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: notanotheract
in relation to the above post, i'm a potential new signup with a few questions. i've read through various parts of the 100 pages so far over the last 2 months and understand about the potential for outages and certain services not working etc, but the main question that comes to mind is hows the sound quality? and is there any way to alter it (64k, 54k or whatever)?
i know the sound quality in the end depends on your ISP, but i just want to make sure that the service can potentially sound just like POTS - which i'm pretty sure i saw confirmed somewhere in the thread. if anyone has anything else important that i may have forgotten or not considered, i'm listening. i'd like to be someones referal/signup too so if georgepa (two of your posts have been great, the last one and the one about the 3 free months, $100 int, or free phones) or any other thread contributor is interested PM me. always looking to help a fellow AT'er


i wanna apologize in advance too; i'm not 100% sure i'll switch to SR but if i do it'll be no later than this tuesday. i'm currently coming off a 30-day trial of optimums triple play package and need to decide if its worth keeping (the VOIP and internet have been great, IO tv hasn't been to my liking), or if i should stay with directv and get verizon DSL & SR. i'm gonna be calling alot of companies tomorrow... wish me luck.

In my experience the call quality is great. I haven't had a POTS line in years (besides the two day nightmare), so I can't offer a direct comparison, but it's certainly as good or better than my cell phone. When I call international no one can tell the difference either.
 

SoulAssassin

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Here's the actual email about double points:
Dear xxxxx,

Great news! For a limited time, SunRocket will be offering double RocketReward points for new members you refer to us.

Now through December 31, your referrals will earn 50 points -- that's double the regular amount of 25!

Tell your friends and family to enter your SunRocket phone number as the Promotion Code on the home page when they order. They'll get a free cordless phone system just for indicating you sent them, and you'll get points you can use for cool new merchandise or gift certificates. With the holidays fast approaching, this is a great way to get free gifts that you can use or give!

View your RocketRewards and learn more about this program by logging into the Member area of SunRocket.com. Click on the tab labeled "Rewards" or call us at 1-800-786-0132 for more information. Don't forget to take advantage of double rewards now through the end of the year!

Thank you,

Joyce Dorris
Chief Marketing Officer
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Here's the actual email about double points:
Dear xxxxx,

Great news! For a limited time, SunRocket will be offering double RocketReward points for new members you refer to us.

Now through December 31, your referrals will earn 50 points -- that's double the regular amount of 25!

Tell your friends and family to enter your SunRocket phone number as the Promotion Code on the home page when they order. They'll get a free cordless phone system just for indicating you sent them, and you'll get points you can use for cool new merchandise or gift certificates. With the holidays fast approaching, this is a great way to get free gifts that you can use or give!

View your RocketRewards and learn more about this program by logging into the Member area of SunRocket.com. Click on the tab labeled "Rewards" or call us at 1-800-786-0132 for more information. Don't forget to take advantage of double rewards now through the end of the year!

Thank you,

Joyce Dorris
Chief Marketing Officer

Sweet, all more reason for me to get my Mom signed up.
 

georgepa

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Honestly, you can't go wrong with a trial. They have a 31-day free trial period, which means if there is ANYTHING you don't like about this you just give the ATA receiver back (they'll ship you a postage-paid label, so you're not charged shipping at all) and you get to keep the free phones at a value of about $60. That month you will owe NOTHING if you decide to cancel before the 31 days are up.

So, to recap: 30 days of free calling ANYWHERE in the world, free phones, no cost whatsoever, which includes shipping both ways. That is if you decide that the call quality is not up to your liking or whatever else you may not like (color of the freebie phones?.)

You may decide you like it and some of those putting up warning signs not to try it for yourself (for whatever strange reason, as a trial to find out for yourself will not cost you a single dime and net you service and phones) are telling you to stay away with illogical reasoning. It may not have worked for one reason or another for someone, but to tell someone to stay away from a free 30 day trial, free phones and potentially a great experience for YOU is just plain dumb, IMO.

As for the referral code: I would suggest the starter of this thread, since his thread start got you over here to begin with.

Let me know if you need any help with the start-up of this. As you know from reading this thread SR is not very quick with their tech support and with them switching to new staff it may take a while for the new crew to get into all the in and outs. Besides, some of the fixes and tweaks are not SR-sanctioned. So, let me know and I (alongside some of the others here) will help you get the most out of this.
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: georgepa
Astrofan-

Lucky for you that you waited a little. Now it is double the points.

No kidding. Remind me to thank my mom for being slow about stuff like this. Worst case she decides it's too complicated after a few weeks and we return it, no harm done.
 

laketrout

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Originally posted by: georgepa
laketrout- You have a PM waiting for you.

High Five!

Its a shame you maxed out your referrals GP, with double the points and the speed at which you work you might be able to fund your whole holiday season..

On a side note, I kinda just realized that my SR service has been very stable since I have been back from Shanghai. Good to see that...


 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: RideFree
This could be embarrassing.
I have just ported BB over to Qwurst and unless I'm wrong, they may be blocking any other VoIP but their own.
Anybody Know? (It is a mixed blessing that I have not yet pulled the plug on ComIcon0clast.)
Now, Qwurst thinks it may be the new modem I just bought from them for this occasion. They are going to exchange my new modem (for a rebuilt, probably).
Maybe Qwurst can get this replacement to work. . .I rapidly losing it with Qwest as the interminable times with their tech-support while they look at every Damslam in the nation. :disgust:
I finally had to boot from both Linux and XP and use another test-bed to access the same IPs through Comcast (without problem, I might add) before they came to the conclusion that their equipment might be the problem.
Grrrr!
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: fatman
Didn't he say Shanghai? Why is Taipei?
You can google Taipai. . .
Taipai City is the capital of that part of the world formerly known as Formosa, currently ROC as opposed to the mainland which the CIA estimates has as many as 800 missles trained on the Republic of China (ROC).
 

laketrout

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I don't believe Taipai City exists. Its not listed on the sunrocket international calling.... I was going to call and ask someone for you.
 
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