Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: y2kc
I believe the implication is that you have to vote as if your life depended on it... If Bush/Cheyney are re-elected the draft will be reinstated and you'll go to war and be killed...
Vote (for Kerry) or Die (in Iraq).
LOL - please tell me that you're joking...
Originally posted by: y2kc
I believe the implication is that you have to vote as if your life depended on it... If Bush/Cheyney are re-elected the draft will be reinstated and you'll go to war and be killed...
Vote (for Kerry) or Die (in Iraq).
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Your vote determines (for all intents and purposes) who get's your state's electorial votes. Your vote counts.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Your vote determines (for all intents and purposes) who get's your state's electorial votes. Your vote counts.
Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Your vote determines (for all intents and purposes) who get's your state's electorial votes. Your vote counts.
Unless you live in Massachusetts or NY - Kerry will win these states hands down even if I dont go vote.
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Your vote determines (for all intents and purposes) who get's your state's electorial votes. Your vote counts.
"The Electoral College is a controversial mechanism of presidential elections that was created by the framers of the U.S. Constitution as a compromise for the presidential election process. At the time, some politicians believed a purely popular election was too reckless, while others objected to giving Congress the power to select the president. The compromise was to set up an Electoral College system that allowed voters to vote for electors, who would then cast their votes for candidates, a system described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution. Each state has a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. senators plus the number of its U.S. representatives. Currently, the Electoral College includes 538 electors, 535 for the total number of congressional members, and three who represent Washington, D.C., as allowed by the 23rd Amendment. On the Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the electors of each state meet in their respective state capitals to officially cast their votes for president and vice president. This year that day is Dec. 18. These votes are then sealed and sent to the president of the Senate, who on Jan. 6 opens and reads the votes in the presence of both houses of Congress. The winner is sworn into office at noon Jan. 20. Most of the time, electors cast their votes for the candidate who has received the most votes in that particular state. However, there have been times when electors have voted contrary to the people's decision, which is entirely legal."
This has happened 4 times:
1824: John Quincy Adams received more than 38,000 fewer votes than Andrew Jackson, but neither candidate won a majority of the Electoral College. Adams was awarded the presidency when the election was thrown to the House of Representatives.
1876: Nearly unanimous support from small states gave Rutherford B. Hayes a one-vote margin in the Electoral College, despite the fact that he lost the popular vote to Samuel J. Tilden by 264,000 votes. Hayes carried five out of the six smallest states (excluding Delaware). These five states plus Colorado gave Hayes 22 electoral votes with only 109,000 popular votes. At the time, Colorado had been just been admitted to the Union and decided to appoint electors instead of holding elections. So, Hayes won Colorado's three electoral votes with zero popular votes. It was the only time in U.S. history that small state support has decided an election.
1888: Benjamin Harrison lost the popular vote by 95,713 votes to Grover Cleveland, but won the electoral vote by 65. In this instance, some say the Electoral College worked the way it is designed to work by preventing a candidate from winning an election based on support from one region of the country. The South overwhelmingly supported Cleveland, and he won by more than 425,000 votes in six southern states. However, in the rest of the country he lost by more than 300,000 votes.
2000: We all know what happened there...
Or in other words, you vote doesn't count, which is why I don't vote. Vote or Die!
No, seriously, NOBODY KNOWS!!! If you read the comic book "Boondocks," you'd see that. It's written by a black man about a politically conscious young black kid. In one of the series, a friend of the kid tries to figure out what it means, but they don't know.Originally posted by: hoyaguru
No seriously, I really want to know what this means. Vote or Die. It's all over the place, I've asked about 20 people around here, not one person had any idea what it means.
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Originally posted by: vood0g
OP, do you know what the electoral college is?
Yup! The electoral college means that your vote doesn't count, and the guy who wins the most votes doesn't necessarily win the election. Yay! Vote or Die!
you obvioulsy do not know how it works....
"In the United States, a system called the Electoral College periodically allows a candidate who receives fewer popular votes to win an election. In fact, there have been several presidential candidates who won the popular vote, but lost the election because they received fewer electoral votes."
Which is what happened in the last election. Which is why I don't vote.
Your vote determines (for all intents and purposes) who get's your state's electorial votes. Your vote counts.
"The Electoral College is a controversial mechanism of presidential elections that was created by the framers of the U.S. Constitution as a compromise for the presidential election process. At the time, some politicians believed a purely popular election was too reckless, while others objected to giving Congress the power to select the president. The compromise was to set up an Electoral College system that allowed voters to vote for electors, who would then cast their votes for candidates, a system described in Article II, section 1 of the Constitution. Each state has a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. senators plus the number of its U.S. representatives. Currently, the Electoral College includes 538 electors, 535 for the total number of congressional members, and three who represent Washington, D.C., as allowed by the 23rd Amendment. On the Monday following the second Wednesday in December, the electors of each state meet in their respective state capitals to officially cast their votes for president and vice president. This year that day is Dec. 18. These votes are then sealed and sent to the president of the Senate, who on Jan. 6 opens and reads the votes in the presence of both houses of Congress. The winner is sworn into office at noon Jan. 20. Most of the time, electors cast their votes for the candidate who has received the most votes in that particular state. However, there have been times when electors have voted contrary to the people's decision, which is entirely legal."
This has happened 4 times:
1824: John Quincy Adams received more than 38,000 fewer votes than Andrew Jackson, but neither candidate won a majority of the Electoral College. Adams was awarded the presidency when the election was thrown to the House of Representatives.
1876: Nearly unanimous support from small states gave Rutherford B. Hayes a one-vote margin in the Electoral College, despite the fact that he lost the popular vote to Samuel J. Tilden by 264,000 votes. Hayes carried five out of the six smallest states (excluding Delaware). These five states plus Colorado gave Hayes 22 electoral votes with only 109,000 popular votes. At the time, Colorado had been just been admitted to the Union and decided to appoint electors instead of holding elections. So, Hayes won Colorado's three electoral votes with zero popular votes. It was the only time in U.S. history that small state support has decided an election.
1888: Benjamin Harrison lost the popular vote by 95,713 votes to Grover Cleveland, but won the electoral vote by 65. In this instance, some say the Electoral College worked the way it is designed to work by preventing a candidate from winning an election based on support from one region of the country. The South overwhelmingly supported Cleveland, and he won by more than 425,000 votes in six southern states. However, in the rest of the country he lost by more than 300,000 votes.
2000: We all know what happened there...
Or in other words, you vote doesn't count, which is why I don't vote. Vote or Die!
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Well, I read it, but still don't quite understand.
"While the Vote Or Die! message is an alarming one, so too are the conditions affecting our communities. It truly has become a matter of life or death, The ?forgotten ones? will not be able to survive if the current issues of unemployment, failing education and denial to proper health care continue to be ignored."
This has truly become a matter of life or death? Wow, fear mongering at its best! Vote or Die!
Originally posted by: Ilmater
No, seriously, NOBODY KNOWS!!! If you read the comic book "Boondocks," you'd see that. It's written by a black man about a politically conscious young black kid. In one of the series, a friend of the kid tries to figure out what it means, but they don't know.Originally posted by: hoyaguru
No seriously, I really want to know what this means. Vote or Die. It's all over the place, I've asked about 20 people around here, not one person had any idea what it means.
Puff Daddy is a moron. He's so incredibly stupid that nobody could possibly understand him. Stop trying. It will lead to an anuerism (sp?).
While the Vote Or Die! message is an alarming one, so too are the conditions affecting our communities. It truly has become a matter of life or death, The ?forgotten ones? will not be able to survive if the current issues of unemployment, failing education and denial to proper health care continue to be ignored.
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Well, I read it, but still don't quite understand.
"While the Vote Or Die! message is an alarming one, so too are the conditions affecting our communities. It truly has become a matter of life or death, The ?forgotten ones? will not be able to survive if the current issues of unemployment, failing education and denial to proper health care continue to be ignored."
This has truly become a matter of life or death? Wow, fear mongering at its best! Vote or Die!
Your vote DOES count. If you actually READ you'll see that winning STATES is the key, not the total national popular vote. My point stands.
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Your vote DOES count. If you actually READ you'll see that winning STATES is the key, not the total national popular vote. My point stands.
OK, I don't want to argue, I've tried before and voters are like religious people, you can't reason with them. Bottom line, if the guy who gets the most votes still loses the election, then your vote doesn't count. Why not just let the electoral college meet and decide it instead of going through all this rigamarole of having everyone vote? Because then everyone would realize that they have no control over the election, and people have to think that they have a choice. Vote or Die!
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Your vote DOES count. If you actually READ you'll see that winning STATES is the key, not the total national popular vote. My point stands.
OK, I don't want to argue, I've tried before and voters are like religious people, you can't reason with them. Bottom line, if the guy who gets the most votes still loses the election, then your vote doesn't count. Why not just let the electoral college meet and decide it instead of going through all this rigamarole of having everyone vote? Because then everyone would realize that they have no control over the election, and people have to think that they have a choice. Vote or Die!
Originally posted by: hoyaguru
Your vote DOES count. If you actually READ you'll see that winning STATES is the key, not the total national popular vote. My point stands.
OK, I don't want to argue, I've tried before and voters are like religious people, you can't reason with them. Bottom line, if the guy who gets the most votes still loses the election, then your vote doesn't count. Why not just let the electoral college meet and decide it instead of going through all this rigamarole of having everyone vote? Because then everyone would realize that they have no control over the election, and people have to think that they have a choice. Vote or Die!
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: y2kc
I believe the implication is that you have to vote as if your life depended on it... If Bush/Cheyney are re-elected the draft will be reinstated and you'll go to war and be killed...
Vote (for Kerry) or Die (in Iraq).
LOL - please tell me that you're joking...
Actually, that's the fear mongering the left has been pushing for months now.