Maybe in Microsofts case with the original Xbox 360 which isn't saying much. But of all the playstations ever released I'd much rather have the original than the chopped down slims.
Off the top of my head the same with original genesis, the slim lost features and buttons felt cheap in comparison.
the thing is already too small and lacks a large enough fan to keep it from running as hot as a toaster oven
I really do not think that is real
I however would like the current one to have a real power and eject button, not a fan of the touch ones
Seems impractical to have the optical drive and power buttons on the side.
They really don't need to waste their time with this, PS4 is plenty slim and small (significantly smaller than the XB1, which is indeed going to have a slim version within the next year or two).
As said above, work on the OS, the straight forward UI is great already.
It's totally possible with inevitable process improvements on the APU. Just think about a gaming tablet/notebook with the same level of performance and an SSD instead of a HDD. Sure, they'd typically be Intel, but Sony/AMD will eventually achieve that too, especially because they don't need as much internal power regulation (no display or battery; limited expansion).
Except that Sony and AMD don't have a chip foundry that can make a smaller chip. It is already being build on TSMC 28nm line, which is their only production grade line to work with complex electronics like CPUs/GPUs/APUs. Their 22nm line is an utter failure still (which is why AMD and Nvidia havn't released a true next gen card in the last 3 years because TSMC can't get the process to work properly). TSMC's 22nm, 20nm, and 16nm lines that they have been developing are still only good for SD memory and the like.
And Intel sure as heck isn't going to lease out their foundry for rival AMD to make APUs on it...
PowerBase convertor is only fits Genesis 1. Nothing a Dremel can't fix though.Original Genesis didn't have stereo output on the back (had to use the headphone port). Genesis 2 had S-Video, stereo, etc on the back.
PowerBase convertor is only fits Genesis 1. Nothing a Dremel can't fix though.
I also inserted multiple Sonic & Knuckles lock-on carts with an extra-tall Virtua Racing cart and a Game Genie, 32X, etc when I was playing around. It was a monstrosity!Now I want to see a 32x, Game Genie, Powerbase, Master System Game Genie just to play a HuCard tower of power.
Except that Sony and AMD don't have a chip foundry that can make a smaller chip. It is already being build on TSMC 28nm line, which is their only production grade line to work with complex electronics like CPUs/GPUs/APUs. Their 22nm line is an utter failure still (which is why AMD and Nvidia havn't released a true next gen card in the last 3 years because TSMC can't get the process to work properly). TSMC's 22nm, 20nm, and 16nm lines that they have been developing are still only good for SD memory and the like.
And Intel sure as heck isn't going to lease out their foundry for rival AMD to make APUs on it...
With the slim versions usually come better consoles, cooler consoles, with larger hard drives. PS3 consoles lost features long before the slim version.
I also inserted multiple Sonic & Knuckles lock-on carts with an extra-tall Virtua Racing cart and a Game Genie, 32X, etc when I was playing around. It was a monstrosity!
Since the PS4 doesn't have an LCD/battery/keyboard/trackpad, it can be smaller than a gaming laptop of the same wattage.The PS4 uses just over 100w (depending on workload), which is pretty similar to a high-end gaming laptop. The slim version, with appropriate cooling, should be perfectly fine to cool with acceptable acoustics. Hopefully they don't just make it smaller and crank-up the fans and make it loud. My original X360 and PS3 were loud, I don't want another console like that.
This is from someone looking to buy a PS4 in the near future, and I am hoping this slim also means HDMI 2.0.
When the PS4 was being developed, the HDMI 2.0 spec was not even finalized.When did they decide not to include HDMI 2.0 with the PS4?
Quick point of clarification: TSMC doesn't have a 22nm process (at least not one named 22nm). They have various 28nm processes and then 20SoC. You are otherwise correct though that 20SoC is not suitable for the console APUs; it's meant for small, low power SoC-type chips. The APUs are a little too heavy for the process.Except that Sony and AMD don't have a chip foundry that can make a smaller chip. It is already being build on TSMC 28nm line, which is their only production grade line to work with complex electronics like CPUs/GPUs/APUs. Their 22nm line is an utter failure still (which is why AMD and Nvidia havn't released a true next gen card in the last 3 years because TSMC can't get the process to work properly). TSMC's 22nm, 20nm, and 16nm lines that they have been developing are still only good for SD memory and the like.
And Intel sure as heck isn't going to lease out their foundry for rival AMD to make APUs on it...
I'm betting it will be a version without a standard hard drive. Maybe 256gb NAND and expandable via USB 3.0.
Performance gains are approximately dick from installing a SSD in a console.