VS 2010 and Framework 4.0

[imported_Dhaval00]

For the curious ones amongst us:

http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonz/a...mework-4-0-beta-1.aspx

 

[sao123]

cool. as long as they keep providing express versions im happy.

 

[MrChad]

This seems odd.

In this case VB has a unique feature of initialization as well. The next big change in this release for VB is to remove the dreaded ?_? at the end of continuing statements:

So with no semi-colons and no underscores, how can the compiler determine when a statement ends?

 

[Markbnj]

I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

I was thinking of doing the same thing. I've already got a base image with just 2008 installed somewhere around here....

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

It's sad when people have fears like this about a product. Sadly, I find your fears to be justified from my history with MSFT products.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

It's sad when people have fears like this about a product. Sadly, I find your fears to be justified from my history with MSFT products.

Beta = not to be trusted, it doesn't matter who wrote it.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

It's sad when people have fears like this about a product. Sadly, I find your fears to be justified from my history with MSFT products.

I would be worried in general about installing a beta version of any product alongside an existing version, regardless of vendor, or operating system, until I knew it would work. In this case the VS2008 install is my daily bread and butter, so the fears are more acute.

 

[WannaFly]

I wish I had time at work to mess around with the newer products. Some of the project's (maintenance, small updates) we work on we're still in VS2003...but we have plans to upgrade them.

I can't believe how fast MSFT is moving with new products. It makes getting a certification difficult, especially when you are doing small applications that don't utilize a lot of the newer features (WWF, WPF). But, I'll make due.

 

[imported_Dhaval00]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

It's sad when people have fears like this about a product. Sadly, I find your fears to be justified from my history with MSFT products.

I have my corporate box running VS 2005 SP2, VS 2008 SP1, VS 6, VSS, CM Synergy 6.5, Eclipse, SQL Server 2005 SP3, SQL Server 2000 SP4, SQL Server Express 2008 SP1, and SQL Server 2008 SP1. I'll agree that there is a 'fear' associated with installing multiple versions of an application on a single box, but blatantly blaming M$ (or any other company for that matter) is just plain'ol wrong. Especially, when you're a developer and know how 'versioning' works...

No offense, but I hope you see my point (plus what Mark and Crusty mentioned above).

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

I installed it along side my VS2008 install - though I don't care so much as we're talking about my home machine running Win7 RC1 which I mostly play games on anyway.

Unfortunately, I was looking forward to the Silverlight stuff myself, however the visual IDE for it ... broke. I'm not sure if it's because I installed all the Silverlight tools for VS2008 or not though. Other than that, the IDE and compiler seem to work alright.

 

[clamum]

Wow, this looks pretty neat. Probably will be awhile before my company moves over to this but I'd like to get an Express or Beta installed on my home computer to get accustomed to.

I'm most interested in the JavaScript Intellisense (it's nearly useless IMO in VS 2008), Team Architecture (is this a standard feature of VS 2010 or a different version of VS 2010 like there's Professional, Developer, etc. editions of VS?), and the Test and Lab Manager. I haven't gotten into the Silverlight or WPF stuff yet so I don't know much about that stuff.

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

I installed it along side my VS2008 install - though I don't care so much as we're talking about my home machine running Win7 RC1 which I mostly play games on anyway.

Unfortunately, I was looking forward to the Silverlight stuff myself, however the visual IDE for it ... broke. I'm not sure if it's because I installed all the Silverlight tools for VS2008 or not though. Other than that, the IDE and compiler seem to work alright.

Pretty much exactly what I was afraid of, and the Silverlight tooling is critical for the project I'm on. Thanks for the report.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Markbnj

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: Markbnj
I'm really looking forward to this update, especially the code exploration features and built-in Silverlight tooling. But I need to hear from someone who has installed it alongside 2008 without breaking anything, before I can take a chance. I guess I might set up a VM for it.

I installed it along side my VS2008 install - though I don't care so much as we're talking about my home machine running Win7 RC1 which I mostly play games on anyway.

Unfortunately, I was looking forward to the Silverlight stuff myself, however the visual IDE for it ... broke. I'm not sure if it's because I installed all the Silverlight tools for VS2008 or not though. Other than that, the IDE and compiler seem to work alright.

Pretty much exactly what I was afraid of, and the Silverlight tooling is critical for the project I'm on. Thanks for the report.

I should point out, all the SL tools are still working fine in my 2008 install though. Only the visual editor in 2010 isn't working.

 

[ForumMaster]

sounds pretty cool. we use VS2008 regularly, however we also have plenty of projects that we still need to edit in VS2003 (damn .net 1.1)
anyway, hope it comes out soon. we get the new products pretty early too so it rocks.

 

[Schadenfroh]

I still program for .NET 2.0, even new programs

 

[Markbnj]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I still program for .NET 2.0, even new programs

That's common, and it was the case for me up to this current gig, which much to my astonishment turned out to be .NET 3.5/WCF/Silverlight.