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Elixer

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I don't get why they just don't fix the 40 μm height difference, yeah, they are different packagers, but, that don't explain why they are different in the first place. It should all be the same.
Why put the AIBs through these annoyances?

Add to that varying chip quality (and HBM2 quality as well), it really is a mess for them.
 

Rifter

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Wow, When was the last time a GPU was so bad that some of the AIB's didnt bother to release them?
 

Elixer

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Wow, When was the last time a GPU was so bad that some of the AIB's didnt bother to release them?
They still will sell them, it just that they won't have any custom work on them.
So, it is going to be tons of reference design blower cards, that they will sell, and leave it at that.
 

Rifter

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They still will sell them, it just that they won't have any custom work on them.
So, it is going to be tons of reference design blower cards, that they will sell, and leave it at that.

Having no custom cooler means may as well not release. Unless mining i dont see the point in blowers, open air is so much quieter and more effective at cooling. Literally the whole point of AIB cards is the better coolers and sometimes custom PCB's with better quality components.
 

coercitiv

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I don't get why they just don't fix the 40 μm height difference, yeah, they are different packagers, but, that don't explain why they are different in the first place. It should all be the same.
Why put the AIBs through these annoyances?

Add to that varying chip quality (and HBM2 quality as well), it really is a mess for them.
It is my understanding that the Vega 64 packages are free of the height difference problem and they also use the better HBM2 chips. If these were the only problem then Vega 64 would be considerably easier to design for.
 

EXCellR8

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the blower design on Vega really isn't that bad. also the lowest temps I've seen for awhile considering how much power the cards use. comparable to Polaris AIB under load.
 

fleshconsumed

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I'd love to see a Windforce or Tri-OC Toxic Vega 56 at or below $399.

#nevergonnahappen
Who knows, maybe at the end of its life cycle? I almost jumped on one of the refurbished sapphire Fury's for <250 at newegg at the end of last year, but 4GB kept me from purchasing it. I regret it now, it was dumb not to buy it at that price. I don't think Vega is moving very well, which means we may have a similar firesale at the end of its cycle.
 

Rifter

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Who knows, maybe at the end of its life cycle? I almost jumped on one of the refurbished sapphire Fury's for <250 at newegg at the end of last year, but 4GB kept me from purchasing it. I regret it now, it was dumb not to buy it at that price. I don't think Vega is moving very well, which means we may have a similar firesale at the end of its cycle.

Pretty safe to say there will be a vega firesale when volta launches. I cant see vega competing with volta in any way shape or form that doesn't involve being sold at bargain basement prices.
 
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EXCellR8

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that's still a ways off though; by then Vega may even be in refresh mode.
 

daxzy

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The only good news is, Vega 56 is popping in & out for the MSRP price at Amazon, and they sell out in minutes.

Is it the $499 or $399 MSRP we're talking about?

Who knows, maybe at the end of its life cycle? I almost jumped on one of the refurbished sapphire Fury's for <250 at newegg at the end of last year, but 4GB kept me from purchasing it. I regret it now, it was dumb not to buy it at that price. I don't think Vega is moving very well, which means we may have a similar firesale at the end of its cycle.

Same here. Could've had Sapphire Fry's for as low as $220. Undervolt it, and you are within 10% of GTX 1070.
 

Mopetar

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I think they’re referring to the bundle price. Some sites are still trying to sell cards only with some games for $100 over the $400 MSRP for just the card.
 

tential

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that's still a ways off though; by then Vega may even be in refresh mode.

You're suggesting Vega refresh will compete with Volta?
LOL!

Who knows, maybe at the end of its life cycle? I almost jumped on one of the refurbished sapphire Fury's for <250 at newegg at the end of last year, but 4GB kept me from purchasing it. I regret it now, it was dumb not to buy it at that price. I don't think Vega is moving very well, which means we may have a similar firesale at the end of its cycle.
The last 5 years have taught us that you buy AMD high end cards at firesale. That's the best deal.

Why wait for Vega 56 when you could have bought Fury X?

Lol, can't believe I waited for the "lower power consumption" of Vega. Nice....

Trolling is not allowed. Knock it off. It is just getting too obvious, this is getting ridiculous. -Shmee
 
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Krteq

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Posting this to stop that "AiBs will not do custom Vega cards" nonsense

According to sources within Gigabyte the cards will be released in week 42 or 42 (store availability), which again confirms my earlier assumption of 'later' in October. Here is what we have confirmed, Gigabyte is planning at least 4 custom cards for just Radeon RX VEGA alone, one of them we heard is water-cooled.

Gigabyte WILL release Custom Radeon RX Vega 64 Cards
 
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Despoiler

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Posting this to stop that "AiBs will not do custom Vega cards" nonsense



Gigabyte WILL release Custom Radeon RX Vega 64 Cards

I was about to chime in that Gigabyte in the past has said similar things to the effect that "it has no plans for a custom card" only to release one within a couple months. I'd attribute their statements to a corporate policy on unreleased products. Potential translations issues do not help with clarity of message.
 

EXCellR8

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You're suggesting Vega refresh will compete with Volta?
LOL!

not sure when I suggested that considering how false it would be, but I'm sure you knew that already and just felt like typing.

there's still a shortage of chips going to subsidiary companies, so hopefully there's at least one or two models that end up being worth the upcharge.
 

JPB

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Custom RX Vega graphics cards coming in late October

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/44617-custom-rx-vega-graphics-cards-coming-in-late-october

From most, if not all partners

Despite earlier worrisome rumors that some partners might not be working on custom Radeon RX Vega graphics cards, it appears that most, if not all partners will be launching their custom RX Vega versions in late October/early November.

Due to the fact that custom versions are most definitely late, mostly due to the supply/demand issues, it does not come as a surprise that we have seen rumors that some partners have simply given up on those and will rather focus on the upcoming Geforce GTX 1070 Ti graphics card from Nvidia.

Thankfully, it appears that those rumors, originally coming from Tomshardware.de, are not true and according to reports around the net, both Gigabyte and MSI will probably come up with fully-custom versions of the RX Vega 64 and RX Vega 56, which could launch in late October.

According to Hardware.info, Gigabyte will be preparing quite a few custom versions that should be arriving in week 42/43, which puts it somewhere between October 16th and October 29th.

Currently, only Asus has launched its custom Strix RX Vega 64 graphics card but this might be a marketing move with a few samples for reviewers, as you simply can't find it listed anywhere.

According to what we heard, Sapphire, XFX, Powercolor and other partners are working on their versions and Sapphire's Nitro could be coming soon. As we wrote earlier, AIB partners generally need eight to ten weeks from the chip order to launching a custom version to the market and if you can't get your hands on enough chips, there is no way to make it.

Hopefully, custom RX Vega graphics cards will not be further delayed as Nvidia will certainly put a lot of pressure on them with the upcoming Geforce GTX 1070 Ti.

 

Mopetar

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Hopefully AMD has a big driver update to coincide with those AIB cards or there probably won’t be a lot of upside other than better cooling for the Vega 56, which is more about noise than increasing performance.
 

krumme

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Hopefully AMD has a big driver update to coincide with those AIB cards or there probably won’t be a lot of upside other than better cooling for the Vega 56, which is more about noise than increasing performance.
Naa. Thought about the same but zlatan says nov/dec for that driver. All guess...
 

Erithan13

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I've been keeping an eye on the UK stock at Scan, last week they had some pre-orders for the 56 at MSRP (~£370), I also noticed the Sapphire card there has been slashed a bit recently. I don't think there are many people actually prepared to shell out 1080 money for a reference 56 so I hope the prices continue to come down, the cards don't seem to be shifting much at the current inflated prices.

Still, I'm wondering about the gap between the 3rd party cards being 'released' and them being available at any sort of decent price. Really wouldn't surprise me if Vega becomes a christmas present to myself.
 
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