Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period.
A coworkers wife quit two days ago and, in that time, got a job as VP of something with a bank. We hired several people this year to replace employees who moved on to other jobs.
I think people want to work for Wal Mart cause they know the low standard they'll be held up to.
Can you amble down an aisle and look puzzled when somebody asks you a question?
Can you talk with a fellow cashier about your nails for five minutes while your line backs up to housewares?
Can you stand next to the exit and stare at the ground or every girl's ass who passes
you?
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: BigLouis
The thread starter is some kid that hasn't had to work a day in his life.
Look at the big ole assumptions. I've worked jobs before, both near minimum wage.
And now I work overtime as a student.
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: BigLouis
The thread starter is some kid that hasn't had to work a day in his life.
Look at the big ole assumptions. I've worked jobs before, both near minimum wage.
And now I work overtime as a student.
Let us know when you are in the real world.
Originally posted by: Ferocious
lol that's the BUSH economy for ya. People fighting for Walmart jobs.
I remember under Clinton, fast food joints had to offer signing bonuses to get people to apply.
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period.
A coworkers wife quit two days ago and, in that time, got a job as VP of something with a bank. We hired several people this year to replace employees who moved on to other jobs.
I think people want to work for Wal Mart cause they know the low standard they'll be held up to.
Can you amble down an aisle and look puzzled when somebody asks you a question?
Can you talk with a fellow cashier about your nails for five minutes while your line backs up to housewares?
Can you stand next to the exit and stare at the ground or every girl's ass who passes you?
Either they want the $9 per hour job, or they just lost their $35 per hour job at Ford.
Just because its a theory doesnt make it assinine. Its assinine to discount theories unless proven so. You don't know any better than anyone else.Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period.
A coworkers wife quit two days ago and, in that time, got a job as VP of something with a bank. We hired several people this year to replace employees who moved on to other jobs.
I think people want to work for Wal Mart cause they know the low standard they'll be held up to.
Can you amble down an aisle and look puzzled when somebody asks you a question?
Can you talk with a fellow cashier about your nails for five minutes while your line backs up to housewares?
Can you stand next to the exit and stare at the ground or every girl's ass who passes you?
Gee HeroOfPellinor, nice way to classify everyone who works there...shows you don't know your a$$ from a hole in the ground.
Either they want the $9 per hour job, or they just lost their $35 per hour job at Ford.
maybe if Ford didn't pay people $35 an hour, they wouldn't be in the mess they are in...same goes for GM.
It is possible some people do want to work there. You need to give credit to the people willing to go to work there so they can stay off welfare to survive....I applaude those people, but that is not all cases. Some could be working thier way through college and Wal-Mart is the only place willing to work with their class schedule, or perhaps they wish to spend more time with thier family and Wal-Mart is a decent paying part-time job, or maybe they are a HS student and this is a nice paying first job. (Wish my first job paid $9.00 an hour)
On top of thier $9 an hour they get benefits and employee discounts on stuff they buy there.
People read that there were a large group of people trying to get in but for every person that applied there is a different reason for doing so not everyone NEEDS to be working there ...perhaps if people should be a bit more open minded and less judgemental.
The fact is no one here for sure can say why every single person applied. The theory that it is out of desperation for a job is an assinine assumption.
No, I do not work there myself.
1. You are a jerk. good luck with that attitude.Originally posted by: digitalsm
People need to stop spouting about stuff they are not knowledgeable enough to talk about.
If I keep hearing people harp on the "decline" of US Manufacturing under president Bush I will flame your ass.
Facts
The US has lost manufacturing jobs every year since 1990.
The US is at RECORD production output.
Germany has lost manufacturing jobs during the same time period. As have every modern country.
Guess what? China has lost manufacturing jobs too. They also have a LOT more people in manufacturing but they are #3 in production output behind the US and Japan.
So dumbasses. Quit trying to blame Bush for the decline of manufacturing employment. This day has been coming for a long time. Technology killed the need for millions of people to work on farms. Technology is killing the need for millions of people to work in manufacturing.
Idiots, the whole lot of you.
Do you really think there are 25,000 people starving in the entire US right now? Which orifice of your body did you pull that one from? When did the left on this forum turn into the group of drama queens that posted in this thread?Originally posted by: Meuge
It is clear that you're entirely unfamiliar with the difference between correlation and causality. They're not the same, you know.
I don't know if it's such a good indication of anything. For all I know, this could indicate that there are 25'000 hungry people with nowhere else to turn for money, in order to survive.
Take a moment and tell me why the president's job is to get YOU a job. The president's job is, as the chief of the executive branch, to enforce the law, not find/create you a job. More generally, the government is NOT responsible for finding/creating you a job.Originally posted by: OrByte
take a minute to climb off his jock and show us what Bush has done to help people get real wage jobs instead of these low-income go now where fast Wally world jobs.
Originally posted by: OrByte
1. You are a jerk. good luck with that attitude.Originally posted by: digitalsm
People need to stop spouting about stuff they are not knowledgeable enough to talk about.
If I keep hearing people harp on the "decline" of US Manufacturing under president Bush I will flame your ass.
Facts
The US has lost manufacturing jobs every year since 1990.
The US is at RECORD production output.
Germany has lost manufacturing jobs during the same time period. As have every modern country.
Guess what? China has lost manufacturing jobs too. They also have a LOT more people in manufacturing but they are #3 in production output behind the US and Japan.
So dumbasses. Quit trying to blame Bush for the decline of manufacturing employment. This day has been coming for a long time. Technology killed the need for millions of people to work on farms. Technology is killing the need for millions of people to work in manufacturing.
Idiots, the whole lot of you.
2. One person mentioned Bush.
3. You are a jerk that spouts facts but doesnt provide links.
4. You seem so desparate to defend Bush, take a minute to climb off his jock and show us what Bush has done to help people get real wage jobs instead of these low-income go now where fast Wally world jobs.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period.
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Ferocious
lol that's the BUSH economy for ya. People fighting for Walmart jobs.
I remember under Clinton, fast food joints had to offer signing bonuses to get people to apply.
Well he sure did wonders for hot-dog stands, cigar shops, and dry-cleaners.
Originally posted by: OrByte
Just because its a theory doesnt make it assinine. Its assinine to discount theories unless proven so. You don't know any better than anyone else.Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period.
A coworkers wife quit two days ago and, in that time, got a job as VP of something with a bank. We hired several people this year to replace employees who moved on to other jobs.
I think people want to work for Wal Mart cause they know the low standard they'll be held up to.
Can you amble down an aisle and look puzzled when somebody asks you a question?
Can you talk with a fellow cashier about your nails for five minutes while your line backs up to housewares?
Can you stand next to the exit and stare at the ground or every girl's ass who passes you?
Gee HeroOfPellinor, nice way to classify everyone who works there...shows you don't know your a$$ from a hole in the ground.
Either they want the $9 per hour job, or they just lost their $35 per hour job at Ford.
maybe if Ford didn't pay people $35 an hour, they wouldn't be in the mess they are in...same goes for GM.
It is possible some people do want to work there. You need to give credit to the people willing to go to work there so they can stay off welfare to survive....I applaude those people, but that is not all cases. Some could be working thier way through college and Wal-Mart is the only place willing to work with their class schedule, or perhaps they wish to spend more time with thier family and Wal-Mart is a decent paying part-time job, or maybe they are a HS student and this is a nice paying first job. (Wish my first job paid $9.00 an hour)
On top of thier $9 an hour they get benefits and employee discounts on stuff they buy there.
People read that there were a large group of people trying to get in but for every person that applied there is a different reason for doing so not everyone NEEDS to be working there ...perhaps if people should be a bit more open minded and less judgemental.
The fact is no one here for sure can say why every single person applied. The theory that it is out of desperation for a job is an assinine assumption.
No, I do not work there myself.
You don't know any better than anyone else.
"Actually, its a clear indication that there is a shortage of jobs, period."
Originally posted by: digitalsm
People need to stop spouting about stuff they are not knowledgeable enough to talk about.
If I keep hearing people harp on the "decline" of US Manufacturing under president Bush I will flame your ass.
Facts
The US has lost manufacturing jobs every year since 1990.
The US is at RECORD production output.
Germany has lost manufacturing jobs during the same time period. As have every modern country.
Guess what? China has lost manufacturing jobs too. They also have a LOT more people in manufacturing but they are #3 in production output behind the US and Japan.
So dumbasses. Quit trying to blame Bush for the decline of manufacturing employment. This day has been coming for a long time. Technology killed the need for millions of people to work on farms. Technology is killing the need for millions of people to work in manufacturing.
Idiots, the whole lot of you.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Do you really think there are 25,000 people starving in the entire US right now? Which orifice of your body did you pull that one from? When did the left on this forum turn into the group of drama queens that posted in this thread?Originally posted by: Meuge
It is clear that you're entirely unfamiliar with the difference between correlation and causality. They're not the same, you know.
I don't know if it's such a good indication of anything. For all I know, this could indicate that there are 25'000 hungry people with nowhere else to turn for money, in order to survive.
Take a moment and tell me why the president's job is to get YOU a job. The president's job is, as the chief of the executive branch, to enforce the law, not find/create you a job. More generally, the government is NOT responsible for finding/creating you a job.Originally posted by: OrByte
take a minute to climb off his jock and show us what Bush has done to help people get real wage jobs instead of these low-income go now where fast Wally world jobs.
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
Originally posted by: Ferocious
lol that's the BUSH economy for ya. People fighting for Walmart jobs.
I remember under Clinton, fast food joints had to offer signing bonuses to get people to apply.
Well he sure did wonders for hot-dog stands, cigar shops, and dry-cleaners.
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Wal-Mart gets 25,000 applications for Evergreen Park store
Interest for 325 jobs biggest in company's history
(Crain's) ? The new Wal-Mart Stores Inc. location opening Friday in suburban Evergreen Park received a record 25,000 applications for 325 positions, the highest for any one location in the retailer?s history, a company official says.
Despite the fact the company says these numbers underscore demand for Wal?Mart jobs in the community, critics wonder how many of these positions are lower?paying part?time work.
The only other site that?s come close to the number of applications is a store in Oakland, California that received 11,000 applications for about the same number of positions last year.
Wal-Mart's Chicago-area manager Chad Donath said generally stores receive between 3,000 and 4,000 applications for about 300 to 450 positions. He says Wal-Mart has been participating in job fairs and advertising the positions as it does in other communities but this time ?we got an amazing response.?
?That incredible number of applications shows the community thinks Wal-Mart is a great place to work,? Mr. Donath says.
He says 90% of the applications came from Chicago residents. The new 140,000-square-foot store, which is set to open at 7 a.m. Friday, sits by the border of Evergreen Park and Chicago.
He said the 325 jobs include cashier, stocking, sales and back office positions. The average pay for non-management full-time positions is $10.99 an hour.
Wal-Mart said more than 70% of the new positions will be full-time.
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So much for the mantra that it sucks to work at Wal-Mart. Twenty five thousand applications for 325 jobs is a clear indication that people want Wal-Mart jobs.
Do you really think there are 25,000 people starving in the entire US right now? Which orifice of your body did you pull that one from? [/quote]Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I don't know if it's such a good indication of anything. For all I know, this could indicate that there are 25'000 hungry people with nowhere else to turn for money, in order to survive.
Which orifice did you pull those numbers from? Not much for actually providing sources, huh? I guess it's easier that way - no one can question what you stated and just have to take you at your word.Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Actually there are currently about 3 million homeless people in America, and 35 million who are 'food insecure' (defined as having to choose between food and another necessity, or receiving food assistance). While far fewer actually 'starve', malnutrition is affecting an estimated 11.5 million.
So to answer your question, yes, there are a HELL of a lot more than 25,000 people starving in America right now.
There are homeless people here in St. Louis that eat better than I do. I see them every time I go down to the loop, sitting around in their nice leather jackets asking me for money when I'm wearing a rag from the early 90's. The homeless people in Columbia, MO recently got rounded up and arrested because they were pulling in over $35k/year each and weren't paying taxes. Homeless != starving.Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Explain why my city, population of 50,000, has a continual (rotating daily) population of about 30 - 45 people checked into the local homeless shelter. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. And that is just daily homeless numbers that checked in, not including those who have a home / apt, but are underemployed, or those who are newly unemployed.
It may not be a good indication of the current situation, but it is part of the total equation.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Which orifice did you pull those numbers from? Not much for actually providing sources, huh? I guess it's easier that way - no one can question what you stated and just have to take you at your word.Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Actually there are currently about 3 million homeless people in America, and 35 million who are 'food insecure' (defined as having to choose between food and another necessity, or receiving food assistance). While far fewer actually 'starve', malnutrition is affecting an estimated 11.5 million.
So to answer your question, yes, there are a HELL of a lot more than 25,000 people starving in America right now.
There are homeless people here in St. Louis that eat better than I do. I see them every time I go down to the loop, sitting around in their nice leather jackets asking me for money when I'm wearing a rag from the early 90's. The homeless people in Columbia, MO recently got rounded up and arrested because they were pulling in over $35k/year each and weren't paying taxes. Homeless != starving.Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Explain why my city, population of 50,000, has a continual (rotating daily) population of about 30 - 45 people checked into the local homeless shelter. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. And that is just daily homeless numbers that checked in, not including those who have a home / apt, but are underemployed, or those who are newly unemployed.
It may not be a good indication of the current situation, but it is part of the total equation.
Being underemployed is also a far cry from starving. I live well below the poverty line right now and I am eating pretty well, can pay for gas for my car, internet connection, rent, utilities, and still afford my girlfriend (who has woefully expensive tastes ). Point is that 'starving' is a choice in this country. There is always food if you're willing to swallow your pride and ask for it, and this is very rarely a necessity. I have taken food to people who needed it for the last 15 years or so - people down on their luck and couldn't make ends meet at the end of the month. Even these people who do break down and ask for help usually have a newish car (newer than mine anyway), cable TV, and other luxuries that indicate to me that they're far from legitimate starvation.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Which orifice did you pull those numbers from? Not much for actually providing sources, huh? I guess it's easier that way - no one can question what you stated and just have to take you at your word.Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Actually there are currently about 3 million homeless people in America, and 35 million who are 'food insecure' (defined as having to choose between food and another necessity, or receiving food assistance). While far fewer actually 'starve', malnutrition is affecting an estimated 11.5 million.
So to answer your question, yes, there are a HELL of a lot more than 25,000 people starving in America right now.
There are homeless people here in St. Louis that eat better than I do. I see them every time I go down to the loop, sitting around in their nice leather jackets asking me for money when I'm wearing a rag from the early 90's. The homeless people in Columbia, MO recently got rounded up and arrested because they were pulling in over $35k/year each and weren't paying taxes. Homeless != starving.Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Explain why my city, population of 50,000, has a continual (rotating daily) population of about 30 - 45 people checked into the local homeless shelter. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't exist. And that is just daily homeless numbers that checked in, not including those who have a home / apt, but are underemployed, or those who are newly unemployed.
It may not be a good indication of the current situation, but it is part of the total equation.
Being underemployed is also a far cry from starving. I live well below the poverty line right now and I am eating pretty well, can pay for gas for my car, internet connection, rent, utilities, and still afford my girlfriend (who has woefully expensive tastes ). Point is that 'starving' is a choice in this country. There is always food if you're willing to swallow your pride and ask for it, and this is very rarely a necessity. I have taken food to people who needed it for the last 15 years or so - people down on their luck and couldn't make ends meet at the end of the month. Even these people who do break down and ask for help usually have a newish car (newer than mine anyway), cable TV, and other luxuries that indicate to me that they're far from legitimate starvation.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I live well below the poverty line right now and I am eating pretty well, can pay for gas for my car, internet connection, rent, utilities, and still afford my girlfriend (who has woefully expensive tastes ).
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
The homeless people in Columbia, MO recently got rounded up and arrested because they were pulling in over $35k/year each and weren't paying taxes. Homeless != starving.