Wal-Mart's everyday high costs

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rjain

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rjain
Maybe we should shut down all McDonalds. They're putting fine dining restaurants out of business.
Maybe what you might consider fine dining
I'm just using the same analogy of a good local store to a Walmart. If it's a hole-in-the-wall crap shop, who cares if Walmart puts them out of business?
Actually they are helping support the Medical Community and the Diet Book Industry!
Just as Walmart is helping support the pension industry and the payroll processing industry.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
Well, maybe if local supermarkets would offer the same quality of goods as a Wal Mart supermarket I might consider them, but, anywho who pays higher prices for lesser quality stuff is an idiot.

Wal Mart produce is consistantly better and fresher then what the supermarkets are providing me with.
You must have suckass Supermarkets if Wally World has better produce. LOL
 

cumhail

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Yeah, though society certainly does indoctrinate us to think of "full time" as equalling 40 hours... no doubt about that. Of course, for many of us paid salaries, not hourly wages, the 40-hour workweek and the idea of being paid overtime are just outdated concepts that older generations talk about nostalgically. In my years working for dotcoms, for example, 70+ hour workweeks were the norm... and you still went to work, every morning, expecting to be laid off because someone higher-up had determined that you were expendable.

cumhail

P.S. I apologize for the tone of my previous post. I just reread it and saw how snotty I came off as sounding. I'm not going to edit the tone out, so as not to make it seem I'm trying to hide it... I'll just apologize for it .

Originally posted by: ElFenix
l=i'm wrong]http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/014.htm[/l]

interesting that you can work 40 hours and not be considered full time

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: rjain
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: rjain
Maybe we should shut down all McDonalds. They're putting fine dining restaurants out of business.
Maybe what you might consider fine dining
I'm just using the same analogy of a good local store to a Walmart. If it's a hole-in-the-wall crap shop, who cares if Walmart puts them out of business?
You have a a point. In Merced CA the only retailer hurt by Wally World was K Mart, an even more craptastic store than Wally World. In fact Wally World was actually a boom to employment in Merced where as K Mart was phasing out workers with things like Self Serve Checkouts which did away with Cashiers. Of course until recently Merced was suffering from High Unemploymernt until Wally World, Costco, Loews and Home Depot opened up. While they may not be high paying jobs they at least gave many who were out of work a chance to work. Also the COL in Merced wasn't as high as other parts of CA so a person working for 10 or 12 bucks an hour could live reasonably well and even more so if they were a two income family. Wally World also hires Retards and Retired folks as Greeters giving them a chance to earn some money to supplement their fixed incomes.
 

rjain

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
You have a a point. In Merced CA the only retailer hurt by Wally World was K Mart, an even more craptastic store than Wally World. In fact Wally World was actually a boom to employment in Merced where as K Mart was phasing out workers with things like Self Serve Checkouts which did away with Cashiers. Of course until recently Merced was suffering from High Unemploymernt until Wally World, Costco, Loews and Home Depot opened up. While they may not be high paying jobs they at least gave many who were out of work a chance to work. Also the COL in Merced wasn't as high as other parts of CA so a person working for 10 or 12 bucks an hour could live reasonably well and even more so if they were a two income family. Wally World also hires Retards and Retired folks as Greeters giving them a chance to earn some money to supplement their fixed incomes.
And to think. They do all that in the name of an evil, mudering, yellow Satan ball. Maybe we should erect a statue to the Satan ball in the Supreme Court, in deference to the historical importance of its worshippers.
 

rufruf44

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Originally posted by: Wag
Nabbed!
BTW- Wal-Mart just got nabbed for employing 300 unregistered workers.

Unregistered? Its the new PC term for illegals these days?
The link said the cleaning company contracted by Walmart is the one that actually employed these people. But Immigration officials stated Walmart execs knows about these. If they do, I hope they get penalized big time.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Wag
Nabbed!
BTW- Wal-Mart just got nabbed for employing 300 unregistered workers.

Yup. Wal-Mart is a wet dream for cheap labor conservatives. Perhaps the gov't should just give WalMart an exemption so they can go hire illegal immigrants at $1.50/hr with no benefits. They can camp out in the hills behind the store every night and send their "wages" back to Mexico. That would show those lazy, good-for-nothing college students and retirees who think they're worth $8/hr AND benefits! But as Cad always sez, "They're free to quit and go find a better-paying job elsewhere."
 

rufruf44

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Wag
Nabbed!
BTW- Wal-Mart just got nabbed for employing 300 unregistered workers.

Yup. Wal-Mart is a wet dream for cheap labor conservatives. Perhaps the gov't should just give WalMart an exemption so they can go hire illegal immigrants at $1.50/hr with no benefits. They can camp out in the hills behind the store every night and send their "wages" back to Mexico. That would show those lazy, good-for-nothing college students and retirees who think they're worth $8/hr AND benefits! But as Cad always sez, "They're free to quit and go find a better-paying job elsewhere."

LOL, and what make you think the Senator and House Rep that ok-ed this bill will survive the stoning crowd they'll face when they come back home?
 

dmcowen674

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Wal-Marts in 21 States target for for illegal immigrant busts

10-23-2003 Illegal Workers Busted at Wal-Mart

Federal officials arrested more than 300 illegal workers at 61 Wal-Mart stores across the country early Thursday morning and searched the office of one of the retail chain's corporate executives, a federal official said.

Employers are required to check forms known as I-9's, filled out by every new employee, and keep the forms for a specified period of time. An employer can face civil and criminal penalties for knowingly hiring illegal immigrants or failing to comply with the I-9 regulations.

The states where arrests were made are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia.
 

DealMonkey

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Wal-Mart and other "big box" stores now BANNED in Oakland, CA

CNN.com: Oakland, CA Bans Superstores

City council bans Wal-Mart style superstores, saying they would threaten smaller stores, cut wages.

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The city of Oakland, just across the bay from San Francisco, has banned mega-stores like Wal-Mart supercenters from opening there, saying they would threaten smaller stores and depress wages.

The move comes as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's largest retailer, plans an aggressive roll-out of supercenters in California, with 40 such centers set to open throughout the state over the next four years.

Wal-Mart had no specific plan to open a supercenter in Oakland, and a company spokeswoman said the ordinance was a blow to consumer choice.

The Oakland city council on Tuesday banned the opening of any "big box" retailer with more than 10,000 square feet of nontaxable sales, which typically means floor space devoted to selling groceries. Officials said the action was directed specifically at Wal-Mart.

In recent years, Wal-Mart has stepped up growth of its supercenters. Those stores include grocery items and are more than twice as large as its regular discount stores.Critics are increasingly charging these ultra-large stores that offer rock-bottom prices are making it difficult for mom-and-pop stores and even some fairly large retail chains to compete.

"Oakland has a lot of neighborhood stores," said Oakland city council member Jane Brunner, who said the move banning the supercenters was designed to protect those smaller outlets and their employees.

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rjain

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Looks like Oakland's cost of living is going to be going up relative to the rest of the country, while people move out and those "smaller outlets" will be forced to close shop because there won't be enough people to buy their stuff. Great way to protect their jobs.
 

Corn

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So basically Oakland is starting to resemble Soviet Russia. If you can't compete, outlaw the competition. Nice.

 

amdskip

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As of right now full time employment at walmart = 32 hours/week unless you are grandfathered in like me at 28 hours. The illegal workers are just contractors and they don't recieve a paycheck from walmart.

So many people have a natural hatred towards walmart because of how sucessful they have become. They didn't start out big. They started off small and worked hard to get where they are at today.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart. They're building one in my hometown now, though (after they've been fighting it for nearly 15 years, too ).

yup. they don't don't touch my money
 

RobCur

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Why pay more at stores like whole food, publix, kroger etc. when you can pay much less at wal-mart?
Always low prices... nuff said.
 

Jmman

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I see the hatred towards Walmart as being very similar to the hatred towards Microsoft. People love to hate the big guys........
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: RobCur
Why pay more at stores like whole food, publix, kroger etc. when you can pay much less at wal-mart?
Always low prices... nuff said.
Because the Food is better and fresher
 

murphy55d

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: RobCur
Why pay more at stores like whole food, publix, kroger etc. when you can pay much less at wal-mart?
Always low prices... nuff said.
Because the Food is better and fresher

Wal-Mart's produce is simply nasty where I work. I won't buy ANYTHING except bananas there.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: murphy55d
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: RobCur
Why pay more at stores like whole food, publix, kroger etc. when you can pay much less at wal-mart?
Always low prices... nuff said.
Because the Food is better and fresher

Wal-Mart's produce is simply nasty where I work. I won't buy ANYTHING except bananas there.
They have some decent prices on packaged foods but to me it isn't worth the time to drive there for to purchase it.
 

rjain

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For the record, it would take me about 1 hour and a taxi cab ride to get to a Walmart from where I live. So there.
 

LunarRay

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I understand the Walmart issue is the contractors hired by Walmart hired the illegals but, walmart knew they were illegals and conspired to reduce the costs based on the fact that they knew the workers were illegals... this makes Walmart in deeper than if they hired the illegals directly...
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
I understand the Walmart issue is the contractors hired by Walmart hired the illegals but, walmart knew they were illegals and conspired to reduce the costs based on the fact that they knew the workers were illegals... this makes Walmart in deeper than if they hired the illegals directly...

I agree Walmart should be taken to task, but I thought "Illegals" were just "undocumented workers"

CkG
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: LunarRay
I understand the Walmart issue is the contractors hired by Walmart hired the illegals but, walmart knew they were illegals and conspired to reduce the costs based on the fact that they knew the workers were illegals... this makes Walmart in deeper than if they hired the illegals directly...

I agree Walmart should be taken to task, but I thought "Illegals" were just "undocumented workers"

CkG

They are and they need being assimilated if they are here. My point is in the legal issue of Walmart. Conspiracy to violate the Immigration laws... the illegals are just trying to feed their families.. I don't have too great an issue there but, do with the exploitive employer who makes $ off their efforts in the furthering his own bank account. Walmart conspired to this effort and that is a big no no. If there are legals who are looking for work and the illegal is hired in their stead... I'm against that. Normally, the illegal works in the agri business.. but, I see they've expanded their field of expertise..

 
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