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SP33Demon

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Trump said there were "very fine people on both sides." Please name any of the "very fine people" who marched for white nationalism that day. Your selective memory is quite telling. Trump showed his hand by throwing a dog whistle to racism and a bone to racists. He gave equal validity to white nationalist and those who protest against racism.

You ignoring that is a form of racism. The sad part is, you're probably not even aware of it. You seem to honestly believe that white nationalists and people who protest against racism have equal validity or worse, that the white nationalists have more.

No. Trump far from libertarian. He's authoritarian. Picking a couple issues does not paint the whole picture. You're cherry picking examples.

Yes, he's destroying many parts of the government but not to free us. Because when you add in his authoritarian, dictatorial side, you see WHY he is tearing things apart. And it is not individual freedom, but autocracy. To consolidate his own power. To destroy any and all dissension.

Why would any libertarian tell people a free press is the "enemy of the people?"

Whoops.

No, I do not support big L libertarians. Why? Because I have a brain. Libertarianism (as the official philosophy/ideology stands today) and anarcho-capitalism fail because they ignore basic human nature. They imagine a utopia filled with people their own morals cannot even live up to. As readily evidenced with Moly.

I am a small L libertarian. In that I believe in the maximum individual liberty one can have, while protecting the rights and liberties of every other individual, and society as a whole.

Why in the actual fuck would ANYONE condemn BLM as a whole??? (Sure, some individuals had issues with how they handled things, but as a whole? NO.) And why in the actual fuck would you compare white nationalists with BLM?

BLM does not assume supremacy of their race. They only seek to survive and be treated with equality in a country in which blacks are systematically oppressed through unequal and unfair treatment by law enforcement, the justice system, and employment. Are they angry? You bet. You would be too. The problem is, you deny the racism exists and no matter how they protest, they are wrong.

White nationalists assume racial supremacy, seek to limit racial mixing and seek to maintain and increase the systemic racism that is pervasive in our society. You're a good example of that. You seek to maintain the status quo and refuse to recognize the racism that exists.

That I have to explain this to you exemplifies your own racism. That you would compare a protest group seeking racial equality to a supremacy group seeking REMOVAL of equality is simply astounding. No wonder you defend Nazis. Comparing BLM to white supremacists is like comparing MLK to the KKK.

As I said, libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism has been taken over by white nationalist authoritarians and its followers duped. The more we talk, the more obvious it is that you yourself are a prime example of this. It's painfully obvious when you hear Moly, Peterson and Sargon of Akkad speak. And it's painfully obvious when their followers like you speak.

And finally, climate change denial IS science denial. You may as well be a flat earther, anti-vaxxer and AIDS denier too. Because all are equally delusional.

It's no surprise you've bought into other pseudoscience as well.

The conspiratard theory that climate change is a communist plot reminds me of the fluoride idiots and chemtrails.

Climate change denial today is IDENTICAL to the denial campaign that denied smoking causes cancer in the 60s and 70s. IDENTICAL. And the same type of people who were duped by the later are being duped by the former. The intentions and origins are identical too. It is a corporate campaign to spread disinformation and uncertainty to maintain a status quo for energy companies. And the believers are useful idiots.
It seems like you are hung up on race to where it's your number one concern. Like I said, he's not going to denounce white nationalists b/c they comprise a small part of his base. Is he authoritarian? Of course, and so was obama (e.g. more signing statements than W, most Mexican deported ever and known as the "Deporter in Chief"), W (set the record for signing statements, Iraq war, prisoner torture), and clinton (mass incarceration of blacks). Every president is authoritarian, you simply don't like this one so it's magnified for you. I'm sure you would agree that most presidents are authoritarian to a certain degree.

BLM most certainly is akin to white nationalists and professors agree. For example:
“What they are doing to confront police violence is textbook Black Power,” says Sherie Randolph, associate professor of history and African American studies at the University of Michigan. She notes the “street theater” tactics employed by young civil rights protesters in the past two years: disrupting the St. Louis Symphony, interrupting presidential campaign rallies for Jeb Bush and Bernie Sanders, naked black women marching down a San Francisco street chanting “Say Her Name” in remembrance of the black women killed by police.

Such demonstrations draw a direct line to the Black Panthers in Sacramento in the late ’60s, who provocatively and openly carried legal weapons in public.

Yet another similarity between the two movements is the crucial role played by black women.

“Despite the media perception, women were always in Black Power leadership,” says Randolph, whose recent book Florynce “Flo” Kennedy: The Life of a Black Feminist Radical shines a light on the women who brought the lessons of Black Power to white feminism.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...k-lives-matter-black-power-movement/78991894/

Also, here is BLM's demand list:
The six platform demands are:
1. End the war on black people.
2. Reparations for past and continuing harms.
3. Divestment from the institutions that criminalize, cage and harm black people; and investment in the education, health and safety of black people.
4. Economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure our communities have collective ownership, not merely access.
5. Community control of the laws, institutions and policies that most impact us.
6. Independent black political power and black self-determination in all areas of society.


Do you really believe in this shit, bro? Basically they're saying, blacks should be paid reparations and running almost every single aspect of our country and all of them should be released from prison - all based on skin color. That sure sounds like "supremacy" to me. It's as stupid as every spanish speaking country coming together and putting together a list as stupid as that but substitute Latino instead of black. This is clearly race-baiting, unrealistic goals purely based on skin color like the nazi and white power bullshit. What if I'm only half black? Do I get reparations? What about 1/8? See how dumb basing decisions on skin color is? And that's before we even discuss how they're the modern day black power movement and using their violent tactics to force people to see things their way. It's ridiculous and I won't support anything based on generalized, simplistic, unrealistic dystopian futures based on skin color. This is why I lump them in with white nationalism, it's the same stupid argument based on skin color which has no place in our society. Only merit, and merit alone should be the qualifier - not affirmative action-based policies. If you support their wishlist based on skin color then I would recommend you think deeper about those 6 things and why they make no sense except only to divide.

I don't care about climate change because I agree with Libertarian Gary Johnson - the money can be better spent elsewhere even if it's true. It's such a complex issue that it would involve every single country of the world participating. Why is China (and a lot of other countries who refuse) allowed to disregard emissions regs from international agreements like the P.A.? Furthermore, why are we supposed to be the world's weather police, and how much are you going to agree with funding for it?

So you're a small l vs big L? I don't really know what that means. Can you link what small l's believe vs big L's?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Sometimes I start at the end of threads and read backwards for the hell of it. I found a debate on distilled water there and a strange argument about politics at the beginning.

I'd say it went the right direction.

Oh, I'm not a partisan, but I do gravitate away from huge piles of shit, sort of an intellectual and moral equivalent of chemotaxis so that leaves Dems. Conservatives killed off their intellectuals decades ago with purity tests and the like. Instead, we have Rohrabacher and such, who is not only outright stupid but stupid and a KGB supporter.

What the Dems need to do is cut the legs off their high Hilary horse and don't fly over Michigan again as Michelle Wolf joked. Find someone personable and intelligent, someone who appeals at many levels and don't expects voters to meet the candidate's expectations.

Remember that and Dems can't lose in 2020, and hopefully win in 2018
 
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Amused

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It seems like you are hung up on race to where it's your number one concern. Like I said, he's not going to denounce white nationalists b/c they comprise a small part of his base. Is he authoritarian? Of course, and so was obama (e.g. more signing statements than W, most Mexican deported ever and known as the "Deporter in Chief"), W (set the record for signing statements, Iraq war, prisoner torture), and clinton (mass incarceration of blacks). Every president is authoritarian, you simply don't like this one so it's magnified for you. I'm sure you would agree that most presidents are authoritarian to a certain degree.

BLM most certainly is akin to white nationalists and professors agree. For example:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...k-lives-matter-black-power-movement/78991894/

Also, here is BLM's demand list:
The six platform demands are:
1. End the war on black people.
2. Reparations for past and continuing harms.
3. Divestment from the institutions that criminalize, cage and harm black people; and investment in the education, health and safety of black people.
4. Economic justice for all and a reconstruction of the economy to ensure our communities have collective ownership, not merely access.
5. Community control of the laws, institutions and policies that most impact us.
6. Independent black political power and black self-determination in all areas of society.


Do you really believe in this shit, bro? Basically they're saying, blacks should be paid reparations and running almost every single aspect of our country and all of them should be released from prison - all based on skin color. That sure sounds like "supremacy" to me. It's as stupid as every spanish speaking country coming together and putting together a list as stupid as that but substitute Latino instead of black. This is clearly race-baiting, unrealistic goals purely based on skin color like the nazi and white power bullshit. What if I'm only half black? Do I get reparations? What about 1/8? See how dumb basing decisions on skin color is? And that's before we even discuss how they're the modern day black power movement and using their violent tactics to force people to see things their way. It's ridiculous and I won't support anything based on generalized, simplistic, unrealistic dystopian futures based on skin color. This is why I lump them in with white nationalism, it's the same stupid argument based on skin color which has no place in our society. Only merit, and merit alone should be the qualifier - not affirmative action-based policies. If you support their wishlist based on skin color then I would recommend you think deeper about those 6 things and why they make no sense except only to divide.

I don't care about climate change because I agree with Libertarian Gary Johnson - the money can be better spent elsewhere even if it's true. It's such a complex issue that it would involve every single country of the world participating. Why is China (and a lot of other countries who refuse) allowed to disregard emissions regs from international agreements like the P.A.? Furthermore, why are we supposed to be the world's weather police, and how much are you going to agree with funding for it?

So you're a small l vs big L? I don't really know what that means. Can you link what small l's believe vs big L's?

Wow. Just wow. So MLK was akin to the KKK too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=_NNvzVCVhIM

Because nothing BLM is asking for is any more than MLK asked for. Which is equality under the law, rights for the centuries of wrongs committed against them and equality of representation in law making. OMG the horror!!!

Your racism is readily apparent for all to see.

Tell me, were you to be convicted of a crime unfairly and sent to prison, would you not sue for restitution?

The fact that I KNOW you would seek restitution for any harm committed against you makes your diatribe against reparations to blacks moot. And racist as fuck.

Understand this: As much as you want "black power" to be "racist," it is not. It is a fight for empowerment in the face of racism. Black power holds no ideology of racial superiority. Only empowerment of those held down by others with an ideology of racial superiority.

Only a racist would attempt to equal those fighting for racial equality with those fighting for racial superiority. To you, BLM is equal to white supremacists, MLK is equal to the KKK and the civil rights movement was equal to Jim Crow and slavery.

As for climate change, so if everyone isn't going to do anything about it no one should? The irony is you used the word "dystopian" in your post. Fuck man, you are really fucking blind. I guess I should start shitting in the street. We all should. Because homeless people do it, right?
 
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I'm amazed that someone took the time to post this given the shareblue crowd here.
 

SP33Demon

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Wow. Just wow. So MLK was akin to the KKK too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=_NNvzVCVhIM

Because nothing BLM is asking for is any more than MLK asked for. Which is equality under the law, rights for the centuries of wrongs committed against them and equality of representation in law making. OMG the horror!!!

Your racism is readily apparent for all to see.

Tell me, were you to be convicted of a crime unfairly and sent to prison, would you not sue for restitution?

The fact that I KNOW you would seek restitution for any harm committed against you makes your diatribe against reparations to blacks moot. And racist as fuck.

As for climate change, so if everyone isn't going to do anything about it no one should? The irony is you used the word "dystopian" in your post. Fuck man, you are really fucking blind. I guess I should start shitting in the street. We all should. Because homeless people do it, right?
Yes, climate change where every country in the world agrees to funding to fight it (because even one major country could fuck everything up) is dystopian to me because it.will.never.happen unless one country militarily takes over the rest of the world. Is that what you want? No? Ok. So then why are you fighting for something that will never ever happen in our lifetimes? These idealistic efforts for something so unrealistic are almost as bad as Ron Paul's pipe dreams of returning to a gold standard. I'll never be able to understand something that is not attainable. This is akin to lobbying for Trump to acknowledge that we can travel through time since space folds. Do you think we'll ever see time travel b/c of this concept in our lifetimes? No? Ok so why spend your precious, hard earned time lobbying for it? Whether you're right or wrong about climate change isn't the issue here, it's whether the resources we put into it can be allocated to more pressing issues like the economy, SS, Medicare, Public school funding, etc. Less than 5% of people in this country have climate change as their number 1 issue. It's just not going to happen, even if we got a pro-climate change prez in office. Then he'd have to convince a large chunk of the 195 countries in the world to also cooperate.

You view things by skin color, ethnicity, and religion, amirite? If someone doesn't fit into your neat box and version of social justice, then you're upset, right? This pertains to my example because I gave you the list of demands of BLM, and instead of acknowledging their demands as unrealistic or realistic, you went into a tirade about MLK and that he believes in every demand that BLM believes, which is absolutely false. So let me take the time to refute this.
1) MLK NEVER advocated violence. Ever. BLM has actively used violence to force people to listen to them. He would've dismissed them from the start because of this just as he dismissed the Black Panthers.
2) You clearly do not undertand the Black Power movement and what I tried to show you. I specifically stated that BLM aligns with the violent Black Power movement, and your response is MLK MLK MLK. Read this b/c it appears you're confused:
Martin Luther King, Jr., believed that Black Power was “essentially an emotional concept” that meant “different things to different people,” but he worried that the slogan carried “connotations of violence and separatism” and opposed its use (King, 32; King, 14 October 1966). The controversy over Black Power reflected and perpetuated a split in the civil rights movement between organizations that maintained that nonviolent methods were the only way to achieve civil rights goals and those organizations that had become frustrated and were ready to adopt violence and black separatism.
MLK was NOT for the Black Power movements which BLM is based on, and as I have shown that multiple African American professors have confirmed.
3) MLK was NOT for black-only reparations like BLM is. Read here:
Hence, it was only just that a Bill of Rights for the Disadvantaged, intent on “raising the Negro from backwardness,” would also rescue “a large stratum of the forgotten white poor.” For King, compensatory measures that were truly just — that is, took race into account while also considering class — had the best chance of bringing healing to our nation's minorities and to the white poor. It was never one or the other; both were a moral priority for King.

If anything, you should be comparing BLM to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers (along with the modern New Black Panther Party), NOT MLK because the goals of BLM (e.g. achieving goals by any means via Black Power-like violence, reparations for blacks only) do not align with MLK's. This is why I compare BLM to white power groups, because BLM is the modern Black Power movement and their demands are just as fucking retarded as the White Power movement's. My advice: don't get suckered into any movement based on skin color b/c eventually you're going to have to get violent to get anyone to take you seriously (like BLM has).

Getting back to the original point - identity politics are poison and to assume Trump hates blacks without any evidence will ensure that smart people will probably tune you out after 20 seconds of conversation. I'm just looking out for a longtime fellow ATer here, don't fall for the radicalization bait from BLM. BLM does NOT stand for what MLK believed in and in fact have rejected peaceful protest many times (Michigan professor gave examples). There will probably never be another MLK and if there is, I will support that movement.
 
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Alex915

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If we get rid of the 2 party system, I'll go to the left.
If we keep the 2 garbage parties we have, then I'll continue to vote "lesser of 2 evils."

Good news is the democrats are becoming more progressive, removal of most super delegates, and I like Schumer's "Better Deal" which mentioned the dangers of supermergers like Exxon-Mobil and that we're moving towards universal healthcare- something which Europe and Canada already enjoy and why their healthcare is rated as the best. Here in NY we already have many progressive policies- a big investment in renewable energy, a ban on fracking, a 15/hr min wage and free public college We also have progressive candidates winning here, like Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez.
 

Alex915

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You really shouldnt be drinking distilled water very much. It actually pulls nutrients from your body.
Filtered water is better- I use a four stage filter. Pesticides were found in our tap water so my entire house gets the filter treatment. I have to replace it every year.
 

cytg111

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Yes, climate change where every country in the world agrees to funding to fight it (because even one major country could fuck everything up) is dystopian to me because it.will.never.happen unless one country militarily takes over the rest of the world. Is that what you want? No? Ok. So then why are you fighting for something that will never ever happen in our lifetimes? These idealistic efforts for something so unrealistic are almost as bad as Ron Paul's pipe dreams of returning to a gold standard. I'll never be able to understand something that is not attainable. This is akin to lobbying for Trump to acknowledge that we can travel through time since space folds. Do you think we'll ever see time travel b/c of this concept in our lifetimes? No? Ok so why spend your precious, hard earned time lobbying for it? Whether you're right or wrong about climate change isn't the issue here, it's whether the resources we put into it can be allocated to more pressing issues like the economy, SS, Medicare, Public school funding, etc. Less than 5% of people in this country have climate change as their number 1 issue. It's just not going to happen, even if we got a pro-climate change prez in office. Then he'd have to convince a large chunk of the 195 countries in the world to also cooperate.

Thats is extremely short sighted. You got kids right? You not going to bat for them? Or their children?
There is a couple of prospects going down this route and ignoring climate change for now.
1. We invent some method to control greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere, we are going to throw science at it and technologically terraform our planet, we get to that point where we can turn a knob and set the temperature for planet earth. Here is the thing, some countries stand to win and some to loose from climate change, some stand to lose some and some to lose more.. And as long as my enemy is loosing more than me then its a good deal right? One way or the other the planet is going to have to commonly agree on a "setting". Can you imagine the west siphoning gasses out of the atmosphere while for example.. hmm... Russia is pouring it in? Dangerous fucking game.
2. Climate wars. When the livable surface area lessens.. Shit will hit the fan. Might as well get those wars done right now instead of waiting for a wasted earth before the fact.

I cant see we have a choice. We have to unite. EU, the US, Russia, Asia etc... By the way, TRADE is a fundamental first step in this effort.

Are you a quitter man? Going to go quietly into that good night? With your kids on your arms?
 

Amused

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Yes, climate change where every country in the world agrees to funding to fight it (because even one major country could fuck everything up) is dystopian to me because it.will.never.happen unless one country militarily takes over the rest of the world. Is that what you want? No? Ok. So then why are you fighting for something that will never ever happen in our lifetimes? These idealistic efforts for something so unrealistic are almost as bad as Ron Paul's pipe dreams of returning to a gold standard. I'll never be able to understand something that is not attainable. This is akin to lobbying for Trump to acknowledge that we can travel through time since space folds. Do you think we'll ever see time travel b/c of this concept in our lifetimes? No? Ok so why spend your precious, hard earned time lobbying for it? Whether you're right or wrong about climate change isn't the issue here, it's whether the resources we put into it can be allocated to more pressing issues like the economy, SS, Medicare, Public school funding, etc. Less than 5% of people in this country have climate change as their number 1 issue. It's just not going to happen, even if we got a pro-climate change prez in office. Then he'd have to convince a large chunk of the 195 countries in the world to also cooperate.

You view things by skin color, ethnicity, and religion, amirite? If someone doesn't fit into your neat box and version of social justice, then you're upset, right? This pertains to my example because I gave you the list of demands of BLM, and instead of acknowledging their demands as unrealistic or realistic, you went into a tirade about MLK and that he believes in every demand that BLM believes, which is absolutely false. So let me take the time to refute this.
1) MLK NEVER advocated violence. Ever. BLM has actively used violence to force people to listen to them. He would've dismissed them from the start because of this just as he dismissed the Black Panthers.
2) You clearly do not undertand the Black Power movement and what I tried to show you. I specifically stated that BLM aligns with the violent Black Power movement, and your response is MLK MLK MLK. Read this b/c it appears you're confused:

MLK was NOT for the Black Power movements which BLM is based on, and as I have shown that multiple African American professors have confirmed.
3) MLK was NOT for black-only reparations like BLM is. Read here:


If anything, you should be comparing BLM to Huey Newton and the Black Panthers (along with the modern New Black Panther Party), NOT MLK because the goals of BLM (e.g. achieving goals by any means via Black Power-like violence, reparations for blacks only) do not align with MLK's. This is why I compare BLM to white power groups, because BLM is the modern Black Power movement and their demands are just as fucking retarded as the White Power movement's. My advice: don't get suckered into any movement based on skin color b/c eventually you're going to have to get violent to get anyone to take you seriously (like BLM has).

Getting back to the original point - identity politics are poison and to assume Trump hates blacks without any evidence will ensure that smart people will probably tune you out after 20 seconds of conversation. I'm just looking out for a longtime fellow ATer here, don't fall for the radicalization bait from BLM. BLM does NOT stand for what MLK believed in and in fact have rejected peaceful protest many times (Michigan professor gave examples). There will probably never be another MLK and if there is, I will support that movement.

Stop watching Fox News.

BLM has been, for the vast majority, non-violent. And that is a fact.

"If BLM being described as nonviolent sounds strange to you, then you’re probably watching too much Fox News. The movement has been wildly misunderstood partly because of how it’s caricatured and demonized by right-wing media. “We absolutely don’t consider Black Lives Matter a hate group,” says Heidi Beirich, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence project, which tracks hate groups. “Black Lives Matter is not a racist group; anyone can join. It’s a movement to expand civil rights for the oppressed in this society. It’s a peaceful protest against oppression. There’s simply no equivalence between Black Lives Matter and a hate group. It’s truly offensive to equate them.”​

The policy of nonviolence is shared by BLM activists around the country. “I refuse to cede the moral high ground to the supremacy we fight,” says Brittany Packnett, an activist and co-founder of Campaign Zero, which aims to end police violence. “We don’t need to become that which we are fighting.”
Only the right-wing depicts BLM as violent, or equates them with the Black Panthers. It's obvious from where you get your information.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...nside-the-black-lives-matter-movement-204982/

Meanwhile, show me where, on their official page, they advocate violence, or racial supremacy:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission is to build local power and to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

We’ve accomplished a lot in four short years. Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.



When you argue from made up facts and lies, it's easy to think you're right. BLM today is every bit as relevant and valid as the civil rights organizations of the 60s. And your reaction to BLM is exactly that of the right-wing's reaction to the civil rights organizations of the 60s.

https://www.economist.com/the-econo...isplaced-arguments-against-black-lives-matter

https://thegrio.com/2016/07/15/black-lives-matter-fox-news-movement-discredit/

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/29/how-fox-news-primetime-lineup-demonized-black-l/207637



And finally, no, I do not view things by skin color. You're projecting. I do, however, recognize systemic racism when it exists and is scientifically and statistically undeniable. It is people like you, the racists, who see things by skin color and seek to dismiss those who protest racism, defend those who promote it and desperately attempt to maintain the status quo. You are the very definition of "white fragility/privilege"

It is others who fight that who want to END people seeing things by skin color.

No amount of projectionism is going to win this debate for you.

And yes, your type was doing exactly what you're doing now to MLK in his time.




https://www.vox.com/2016/1/18/10777146/mlk-day-martin-luther-king

A 1963 letter from eight white clergymen — which inspired King's famous response, "Letter From a Birmingham Jail" — told black protesters to stand down because they were inciting "hatred and violence" in Birmingham, Alabama. The clergymen warned about the effects the protests in Birmingham led by "outsiders" like King would have:







https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...tin-luther-king-jr-they-denounced-him-629494/

How does it feel to be doing the exact same thing the right-wing did in the 60s to MLK?

Because that's what you're doing.
 
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Alex915

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Stop watching Fox News.

BLM has been, for the vast majority, non-violent. And that is a fact.

"If BLM being described as nonviolent sounds strange to you, then you’re probably watching too much Fox News. The movement has been wildly misunderstood partly because of how it’s caricatured and demonized by right-wing media. “We absolutely don’t consider Black Lives Matter a hate group,” says Heidi Beirich, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence project, which tracks hate groups. “Black Lives Matter is not a racist group; anyone can join. It’s a movement to expand civil rights for the oppressed in this society. It’s a peaceful protest against oppression. There’s simply no equivalence between Black Lives Matter and a hate group. It’s truly offensive to equate them.”​

The policy of nonviolence is shared by BLM activists around the country. “I refuse to cede the moral high ground to the supremacy we fight,” says Brittany Packnett, an activist and co-founder of Campaign Zero, which aims to end police violence. “We don’t need to become that which we are fighting.”
Only the right-wing depicts BLM as violent, or equates them with the Black Panthers. It's obvious from where you get your information.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...nside-the-black-lives-matter-movement-204982/

Meanwhile, show me where, on their official page, they advocate violence, or racial supremacy:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission is to build local power and to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

We’ve accomplished a lot in four short years. Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.



When you argue from made up facts and lies, it's easy to think you're right. BLM today is every bit as relevant and valid as the civil rights organizations of the 60s. And your reaction to BLM is exactly that of the right-wing's reaction to the civil rights organizations of the 60s.

https://www.economist.com/the-econo...isplaced-arguments-against-black-lives-matter

https://thegrio.com/2016/07/15/black-lives-matter-fox-news-movement-discredit/

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/29/how-fox-news-primetime-lineup-demonized-black-l/207637



And finally, no, I do not view things by skin color. You're projecting. I do, however, recognize systemic racism when it exists and is scientifically and statistically undeniable. It is people like you, the racists, who see things by skin color and seek to dismiss those who protest racism, defend those who promote it and desperately attempt to maintain the status quo. You are the very definition of "white fragility/privilege"

It is others who fight that who want to END people seeing things by skin color.

No amount of projectionism is going to win this debate for you.

And yes, your type was doing exactly what you're doing now to MLK in his time.




https://www.vox.com/2016/1/18/10777146/mlk-day-martin-luther-king

A 1963 letter from eight white clergymen — which inspired King's famous response, "Letter From a Birmingham Jail" — told black protesters to stand down because they were inciting "hatred and violence" in Birmingham, Alabama. The clergymen warned about the effects the protests in Birmingham led by "outsiders" like King would have:







https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...tin-luther-king-jr-they-denounced-him-629494/

How does it feel to be doing the exact same thing the right-wing did in the 60s to MLK?

Because that's what you're doing.


J Edgar Hoover, I so hated that monster- I wish the FBI building would be renamed for someone of far better character. It should actually be renamed the Martin Luther King Building- now that would be great poetic justice.

Hoover went after the Kennedys, MLK and John Lennon, all people far better than he could ever dream of being. In our current era of the surveillance state, it is worth noting that it all began with Hoover wiretapping MLK and civil rights groups because of his own paranoia.
 
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SP33Demon

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Stop watching Fox News.

BLM has been, for the vast majority, non-violent. And that is a fact.

"If BLM being described as nonviolent sounds strange to you, then you’re probably watching too much Fox News. The movement has been wildly misunderstood partly because of how it’s caricatured and demonized by right-wing media. “We absolutely don’t consider Black Lives Matter a hate group,” says Heidi Beirich, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence project, which tracks hate groups. “Black Lives Matter is not a racist group; anyone can join. It’s a movement to expand civil rights for the oppressed in this society. It’s a peaceful protest against oppression. There’s simply no equivalence between Black Lives Matter and a hate group. It’s truly offensive to equate them.”​

The policy of nonviolence is shared by BLM activists around the country. “I refuse to cede the moral high ground to the supremacy we fight,” says Brittany Packnett, an activist and co-founder of Campaign Zero, which aims to end police violence. “We don’t need to become that which we are fighting.”
Only the right-wing depicts BLM as violent, or equates them with the Black Panthers. It's obvious from where you get your information.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...nside-the-black-lives-matter-movement-204982/

Meanwhile, show me where, on their official page, they advocate violence, or racial supremacy:

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission is to build local power and to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

We are expansive. We are a collective of liberators who believe in an inclusive and spacious movement. We also believe that in order to win and bring as many people with us along the way, we must move beyond the narrow nationalism that is all too prevalent in Black communities. We must ensure we are building a movement that brings all of us to the front.

We affirm the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, undocumented folks, folks with records, women, and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. Our network centers those who have been marginalized within Black liberation movements.

We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.

We affirm our humanity, our contributions to this society, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression.

The call for Black lives to matter is a rallying cry for ALL Black lives striving for liberation.

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

We’ve accomplished a lot in four short years. Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.



When you argue from made up facts and lies, it's easy to think you're right. BLM today is every bit as relevant and valid as the civil rights organizations of the 60s. And your reaction to BLM is exactly that of the right-wing's reaction to the civil rights organizations of the 60s.

https://www.economist.com/the-econo...isplaced-arguments-against-black-lives-matter

https://thegrio.com/2016/07/15/black-lives-matter-fox-news-movement-discredit/

https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2015/12/29/how-fox-news-primetime-lineup-demonized-black-l/207637



And finally, no, I do not view things by skin color. You're projecting. I do, however, recognize systemic racism when it exists and is scientifically and statistically undeniable. It is people like you, the racists, who see things by skin color and seek to dismiss those who protest racism, defend those who promote it and desperately attempt to maintain the status quo. You are the very definition of "white fragility/privilege"

It is others who fight that who want to END people seeing things by skin color.

No amount of projectionism is going to win this debate for you.

And yes, your type was doing exactly what you're doing now to MLK in his time.




1) Does MLK support black-only reparations or not? What about BLM? As I've already proven, MLK did not support black-only reparations as BLM does.

2) Yes BLM is a violent group that practices Black Panther tactics. MLK disagreed with the Black Panthers. To reiterate: MLK disagreed with the Black Panthers. Now let's reiterate what a black professor says about BLM:
“What they are doing to confront police violence is textbook Black Power,” says Sherie Randolph, associate professor of history and African American studies at the University of Michigan. She notes the “street theater” tactics employed by young civil rights protesters in the past two years: disrupting the St. Louis Symphony, interrupting presidential campaign rallies for Jeb Bush and Bernie Sanders, naked black women marching down a San Francisco street chanting “Say Her Name” in remembrance of the black women killed by police. Such demonstrations draw a direct line to the Black Panthers in Sacramento in the late ’60s, who provocatively and openly carried legal weapons in public."

OPENLY CARRIED WEAPONS IN PUBLIC LIKE THE BLACK PANTHERS. TO REITERATE - OPENLY CARRIED WEAPONS IN PUBLIC LIKE THE BLACK PANTHERS.

That is not a peaceful protest if it has fucking weapons.
Your wall of text says nothing about peaceful protest anywhere in your description, and peaceful protest was a tenet of MLK's vision. Aligning MLK with BLM shows you are willfully ignorant to BLM's misdeeds and what MLK stood for.

3) So you say I am claiming white privilege when I'm not even white? hahahaha, and I'm a racist to boot? Do you even know who you're talking to? Yes, a minority with his shit together and successful. I want no handouts, reparations, or anyone's hands in my fucking pockets and I don't gaf if you're purple, brown, red, or yellow. You willfully ignore facts and then throw around the race card when you have no facts to support your arguments. Go join BLM and get back to us how those protests work out.

Enjoy your violent group that carries weapons ("but they're peaceful, guys, I swear, and would never provoke anyone") while pretending to advocate for skin color and reparations for said skin color which explicitly went against Martin Luther King's vision for blacks.
 

Amused

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1) Does MLK support black-only reparations or not? What about BLM? As I've already proven, MLK did not support black-only reparations as BLM does.

2) Yes BLM is a violent group that practices Black Panther tactics. MLK disagreed with the Black Panthers. To reiterate: MLK disagreed with the Black Panthers. Now let's reiterate what a black professor says about BLM:
“What they are doing to confront police violence is textbook Black Power,” says Sherie Randolph, associate professor of history and African American studies at the University of Michigan. She notes the “street theater” tactics employed by young civil rights protesters in the past two years: disrupting the St. Louis Symphony, interrupting presidential campaign rallies for Jeb Bush and Bernie Sanders, naked black women marching down a San Francisco street chanting “Say Her Name” in remembrance of the black women killed by police. Such demonstrations draw a direct line to the Black Panthers in Sacramento in the late ’60s, who provocatively and openly carried legal weapons in public."

OPENLY CARRIED WEAPONS IN PUBLIC LIKE THE BLACK PANTHERS. TO REITERATE - OPENLY CARRIED WEAPONS IN PUBLIC LIKE THE BLACK PANTHERS.

That is not a peaceful protest if it has fucking weapons.
Your wall of text says nothing about peaceful protest anywhere in your description, and peaceful protest was a tenet of MLK's vision. Aligning MLK with BLM shows you are willfully ignorant to BLM's misdeeds and what MLK stood for.

3) So you say I am claiming white privilege when I'm not even white? hahahaha, and I'm a racist to boot? Do you even know who you're talking to? Yes, a minority with his shit together and successful. I want no handouts, reparations, or anyone's hands in my fucking pockets and I don't gaf if you're purple, brown, red, or yellow. You willfully ignore facts and then throw around the race card when you have no facts to support your arguments. Go join BLM and get back to us how those protests work out.

Enjoy your violent group that carries guns ("but they're peaceful, guys, I swear, and would never provoke anyone") while pretending to advocate for skin color and reparations for said skin color.

Show me where, in the BLM page, they call for reparations to blacks only? " Restorative Justice" means restitution for blacks wrongfully killed and mistreated by law enforcement and the justice system. A fair request.

Um, show me a BLM march in which they are armed, or have ever at a national level called for armed uprising or protests. Hint: They haven't.

Your comparisons are weak (non existent actually). You have one source that seeks to make invalid comparisons while I posted multiple sources that say precisely the opposite.

I don't give a fuck what color you are. You're anti-black and a white supremacist apologist and that much is readily apparent. If you aren't white, you're even more stupid than I thought.

Your false equivalencies are pathetic and you are as despicable as those who opposed MLK in the 60s and shockingly, using the exact same tactics to do so.



You REALLY need to stop watching Fox News and learning about Black Movements from white nationalists. You have completely and utterly misrepresented thm here and are arguing against a strawman version your media has created for you.
 
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Amused

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OK and you keep being on the wrong side of history and supporting nazis and white supremacists while demonizing peaceful protesters:

How does it feel to be doing exactly the same thing civil rights opposers did in the 60s?



BTW, Infowars? Seriously??? No wonder you;re a blithering fucking idiot who believes absolute nonsense and pseudoscience.

Hey, let us know what other medical woofuckery and conspiracies you believe in.

Are you anti-vax?
Chamtrailer?
Flat earther?
 
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SP33Demon

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Show me where, in the BLM page, they call for reparations to blacks only? " Restorative Justice" means restitution for blacks wrongfully killed and mistreated by law enforcement and the justice system. A fair request.

Um, show me a BLM march in which they are armed, or have ever at a national level called for armed uprising or protests. Hint: They haven't.

Your comparisons are weak (non existent actually). You have one source that seeks to make invalid comparisons while I posted multiple sources that say precisely the opposite.

I don't give a fuck what color you are. You're anti-black and a white supremacist apologist and that much is readily apparent. If you aren't white, you're even more stupid than I thought.

Your false equivalencies are pathetic and you are as despicable as those who opposed MLK in the 60s and shockingly, using the exact same tactics to do so.

You REALLY need to stop watching Fox News and learning about Black Movements from white nationalists. You have completely and utterly misrepresented thm here and are arguing against a strawman version your media has created for you.

You don't gaf about what color I am? Yet you just said I have "white privilege". Fucking awesome! Way to go! If that's not ignorant I don't know what is. Now I'm anti-black in the post above? Better tell that to some of the guys I have lunch with every day, along with the asians and one indian guy. Want to keep digger your hole deeper here since your world is fully based on skin color?

Fox News now? I don't even have cable, bro. I cut the cord a long time ago. BTW how do you classify bi-racial people. Let's say they're half Indian, half hispanic. What if they're 1/3 white, are they then afforded white privilege? What about 1/4 black? Are they still black? Gimme the numbers on where the DNA has to be in order for you to label someone as a certain race or privileged. Honest question. For example, Elizabeth Warren claims to be 1/16 American Indian. Does that mean she's an American Indian in your mind? What about 1/8? Not enough for you? How about 1/4?

You can see where I'm going with this tomfoolery and how stupid judging people by the color of their skin is. Don't be that guy.
 
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