Hence the "combination". Do you dispute that Trump has more libertarian traits of any prez since Reagan? Hell let's just start with Trump vs Obama vs W.
You don't gaf about what color I am? Yet you just said I have "white privilege". Fucking awesome! Way to go! If that's not ignorant I don't know what is. Now I'm anti-black in the post above? Better tell that to some of the guys I have lunch with every day, along with the asians and one indian guy. Want to keep digger your hole deeper here since your world is fully based on skin color?
Fox News now? I don't even have cable, bro. I cut the cord a long time ago. BTW how do you classify bi-racial people. Let's say they're half Indian, half hispanic. What if they're 1/3 white, are they then afforded white privilege? What about 1/4 black? Are they still black? Gimme the numbers on where the DNA has to be in order for you to label someone as a certain race or privileged. Honest question. For example, Elizabeth Warren claims to be 1/16 American Indian. Does that mean she's an American Indian in your mind? What about 1/8? Not enough for you? How about 1/4?
You can see where I'm going with this tomfoolery and how stupid judging people by the color of their skin is. Don't be that guy.
If this were the 1960s, Speedy would be just as opposed to MLK as he is to BLM now.None of that explains why you're doing to BLM precisely what the opposition to civil rights did to MLK in the 60s. Why you feel the need to equate a civil rights movement with white supremacists? Why you defend nazis and white nationalists?
Everything else is irrelevant. Why are you so opposed to the fact that systemic racism exists in America and Black Americans have a valid complaint? Why do you condemn them no matter how they protest? Is there a single current civil rights protest for blacks you do agree with?
Are you able to admit systemic racism against blacks exists in America?
If this were the 1960s, Speedy would be just as opposed to MLK as he is to BLM now.
Lol, I defend nazi's and white power? Keep thinking that bro. And if you mean b/c I like Trump, then you're even more delusional than I thought.None of that explains why you're doing to BLM precisely what the opposition to civil rights did to MLK in the 60s. Why you feel the need to equate a civil rights movement with white supremacists? Why you defend nazis and white nationalists?
Everything else is irrelevant. Why are you so opposed to the fact that systemic racism exists in America and Black Americans have a valid complaint? Why do you condemn them no matter how they protest? Is there a single current civil rights protest for blacks you do agree with?
Are you able to admit systemic racism against blacks exists in America?
Lol, I defend nazi's and white power? Keep thinking that bro. And if you mean b/c I like Trump, then you're even more delusional than I thought.
What is the valid complaint that blacks have? According to FBI statistics, blacks commit more than half of violent crimes while comprising only 15% of our population. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them? When I listen to the music they listen to (drugs gats hoes bitches), am I supposed to feel sorry for them? They are doing it to themselves. Sorry you've been duped by their victim card.
Also, the fact that you believe in equality of outcomes tells me everything I need to know. We know how that worked out the last time that experiment came to fruition (Look up the russian purges). Oh, but I'm so oppressed! Says the idiots in this country who are most likely making enough to be in the world's top 1% (> $30,000).
Want to help the oppressed, Amused? Go to Africa. In fact, I bet I've donated much more to Africa (i.e Real oppressed people with nothing) in my sponsors of missionaries there, as well as money for churches to be built there.
What the fuck have you done to help real oppressed people? But keep spouting about BLM, the joke is most likely on you bro if you really think that blacks in this country are "oppressed" financially when GLOBAL stats show otherwise - that blacks have it good here compared to other crappy countries with real dictators and real warlords. Really the only thing I'll give you is that racial profiling does exist, but so fucking what? They don't act a fool and they'll be fine. And now the whining that they don't want cops to have bodycams b/c it's not allowing them to lie about their police interactions and pull the victim card? Are you fucking kidding me? That's for an entire other thread though.
You're just going to confuse him with facts. I do applaud the effort tho.Considering I spend a great deal of time working/fundraising for AIDS charities here and is South Africa (where I just spent 2 months last year) challenge accepted.
Meanwhile, the scientific consensus refutes your denial of oppression and racism against blacks i America.
Let's start with employment, shall we?
A meta study (as big a prooof as one can get in science) has proved that blacks are called back for jobs 36% less than whites when all other things are equal.
https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discrimination-against-black-americans-hasnt-declined-in-25-years
http://www.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870.full
This alone is incontrovertible proof of ongoing systemic racism against blacks in America.
Step one: Handicap the ability to make a living.
Next, the justice system.
Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, when all other things are equal.
When all other factors are equal, black offenders were 75 percent more likely to face a charge carrying a mandatory minimum sentence than a white offender who committed the same crime.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...te-person-study-finds/?utm_term=.82366bfa7d65
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/25/566438860/research-finds-racial-disparities-in-prison-sentences
Meanwhile, let's talk about how blacks are treated by police with increased scrutiny.
A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers were stopped by police
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?tid=702&ty=tp
Sheeet. I don't make a million a year yet, I'm oppressed. Fuck those rich guys. Send em to Siberia in the 1st Purge.I do love the implied guilt trip in "well, you're in the top 1% of the world population if you make $30K! You can't bitch about that!"
He didn't take that attitude when Trump & the GOP cut their own taxes & the taxes of the richest people in the solar system... Rich people are so oppressed...
Sheeet. I don't make a million a year yet, I'm oppressed. Fuck those rich guys. Send em to Siberia in the 1st Purge.
Ok, then if you really do charity for AIDS in South Africa then kudos. Obviously I don't know you but you are doing some good in the world which is more than 90% of people.Considering I spend a great deal of time working/fundraising for AIDS charities here and is South Africa (where I just spent 2 months last year) challenge accepted.
Meanwhile, the scientific consensus refutes your denial of oppression and racism against blacks i America.
Let's start with employment, shall we?
A meta study (as big a prooof as one can get in science) has proved that blacks are called back for jobs 36% less than whites when all other things are equal.
https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discrimination-against-black-americans-hasnt-declined-in-25-years
http://www.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870.full
This alone is incontrovertible proof of ongoing systemic racism against blacks in America.
Step one: Handicap the ability to make a living.
Next, the justice system.
Black men who commit the same crimes as white men receive federal prison sentences that are, on average, nearly 20 percent longer, when all other things are equal.
When all other factors are equal, black offenders were 75 percent more likely to face a charge carrying a mandatory minimum sentence than a white offender who committed the same crime.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...te-person-study-finds/?utm_term=.82366bfa7d65
https://www.npr.org/2017/11/25/566438860/research-finds-racial-disparities-in-prison-sentences
Meanwhile, let's talk about how blacks are treated by police with increased scrutiny.
A higher percentage of black drivers (13%) than white (10%) and Hispanic (10%) drivers were stopped by police
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?tid=702&ty=tp
https://observer.com/2017/02/trumps...s-policies-will-help-black-entrepreneurs-too/If the pro-business environment is set up in a way that facilitates the growth of black entrepreneurship, the benefits of these policies should be evident in due time. Results could then support the virtuous circle that leads to increased earnings in black communities, which in turn spurs greater patronage of and investment in other black-owned businesses.
However, if entrepreneurial growth is negligible, then we may conclude that pro-business policies of the sort that were created by the Trump administration are insufficient to allow for the fulfillment of African-Americans’ longstanding desire to create a viable business community.
Steven J. Gold is a Professor of Sociology at Michigan State University and Jeffrey R. Oliver, is a visiting Assistant Professor at Michigan State University.
Reads like a "modernized" civil war rant by a Southern separatist.Ok, then if you really do charity for AIDS in South Africa then kudos. Obviously I don't know you but you are doing some good in the world which is more than 90% of people.
So some statistics that I want you to address:
1) 15% of our country (blacks) are committing over HALF of ALL VIOLENT CRIMES.
2) Over 70% of all blacks are born out of wedlock!
So don't you think that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that spans generations?
Cycle:
Police know blacks are statistically committing half of all violent crime-->
police are now more biased b/c of the statistics-->
blacks are arrested more because of bias-->
blacks get angrier, especially with no dad around to teach them how to act-->
blacks commit violent crime out of anger-->
black criminal is added to criminal statistic-->
restart cycle-->
If this self-fulfilling prophecy is true, then why aren't blacks teaching each other that not marrying before having kids is harming the community? Why aren't there songs about how men are supposed to act if they have no role model, or how to be a good man and settle down? Why is rap music telling them it's all about money guns drugs hoes bitches goldchains kill murder? Most are aware of the cycle, yet still fall victim to it (self-fulfilling of course).
The police bias is pretty much already fixed with bodycams. It's very easy to now see if someone is lying or not.
Is the federal government really supposed to step in and solve a cultural issue? Are we really supposed to give them a victim card as a reward for committing half the country's violent crimes? No way. They know they're predisposed to do it, yet most still fall into the mass incarceration trap anyway. Maybe they should work on creating better men in the community who don't leave like a bitch when they have a child? Maybe black parents should tell their kids that rap music is poison and isn't what they stand for? Maybe change needs to come from WITHIN, not that they're a fucking victim when they chose to pull the trigger, when they chose to stab someone, when they chose to rape, etc.
Granted, your statistic about hiring is probably on the mark (even though it's from Harvard which actively practices affirmative action). So they get hired less vs other races? What can they do to ameliorate it? Also, to suggest that it *completely* impedes their ability to make a living is BS. They can find jobs that people need via temp agencies (especially with their unemployment at all time lows), many just don't want to and would rather collect food stamps. Is that my problem? No, it sounds like a cultural problem.
My suggestion is that they as a culture need to start creating more businesses b/c that's the best way to get hired - hire each other. I know a few small business owners who are black, they usually hire other blacks. So my suggestions would be:
1) Dads need to stick around more
2) Stop listening to music with shit lyrics
3) Stop abusing drugs
4) Grants to start black businesses with extra incentives if they're in the city
5) Under no circumstances commit a violent crime
6) Incentives to grow black churches since that will keep the kids off the streets and mold them early in life.
Am I missing anything? So the main issue I see is lack of successful black owned businesses and possibly churches could continue to be a positive safe haven. Trump is actually trying to help small businesses so we'll see if it helps them on that front. My main point is that this is an internally doable and solvable problem for blacks.
https://observer.com/2017/02/trumps...s-policies-will-help-black-entrepreneurs-too/
Reads like a "modernized" civil war rant by a Southern separatist.
Over 70% of all blacks are born out of wedlock!
The article you linked clearly states that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock. So speedes statement was factually correct.One of the great white conservative tropes about black people-
https://medium.com/@timjwise/black-...racist-lies-about-out-of-wedlock-836fa501b869
Go look up on YT how many people who have gone distilled have more energy. Also I work out every other day, obviously I'm drinking protein shakes during and after which studies show provides more energy during. Enjoy paying and lugging your bottled water (aka the bane of the environment to create and dispose of).
If you're really that worried about minerals, go to amazon and buy mineral drops. Yet most people will do this for the taste, not b/c of theoretical electrolyte loss. I consume at least a gallon a day and never been healthier, more vibrant, and clear thinking.
Ok, then if you really do charity for AIDS in South Africa then kudos. Obviously I don't know you but you are doing some good in the world which is more than 90% of people.
So some statistics that I want you to address:
1) 15% of our country (blacks) are committing over HALF of ALL VIOLENT CRIMES.
2) Over 70% of all blacks are born out of wedlock!
So don't you think that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that spans generations?
Cycle:
Police know blacks are statistically committing half of all violent crime-->
police are now more biased b/c of the statistics-->
blacks are arrested more because of bias-->
blacks get angrier, especially with no dad around to teach them how to act-->
blacks commit violent crime out of anger-->
black criminal is added to criminal statistic-->
restart cycle-->
If this self-fulfilling prophecy is true, then why aren't blacks teaching each other that not marrying before having kids is harming the community? Why aren't there songs about how men are supposed to act if they have no role model, or how to be a good man and settle down? Why is rap music telling them it's all about money guns drugs hoes bitches goldchains kill murder? Most are aware of the cycle, yet still fall victim to it (self-fulfilling of course).
The police bias is pretty much already fixed with bodycams. It's very easy to now see if someone is lying or not.
Is the federal government really supposed to step in and solve a cultural issue? Are we really supposed to give them a victim card as a reward for committing half the country's violent crimes? No way. They know they're predisposed to do it, yet most still fall into the mass incarceration trap anyway. Maybe they should work on creating better men in the community who don't leave like a bitch when they have a child? Maybe black parents should tell their kids that rap music is poison and isn't what they stand for? Maybe change needs to come from WITHIN, not that they're a fucking victim when they chose to pull the trigger, when they chose to stab someone, when they chose to rape, etc.
Granted, your statistic about hiring is probably on the mark (even though it's from Harvard which actively practices affirmative action). So they get hired less vs other races? What can they do to ameliorate it? Also, to suggest that it *completely* impedes their ability to make a living is BS. They can find jobs that people need via temp agencies (especially with their unemployment at all time lows), many just don't want to and would rather collect food stamps. Is that my problem? No, it sounds like a cultural problem.
My suggestion is that they as a culture need to start creating more businesses b/c that's the best way to get hired - hire each other. I know a few small business owners who are black, they usually hire other blacks. So my suggestions would be:
1) Dads need to stick around more
2) Stop listening to music with shit lyrics
3) Stop abusing drugs
4) Grants to start black businesses with extra incentives if they're in the city
5) Under no circumstances commit a violent crime
6) Incentives to grow black churches since that will keep the kids off the streets and mold them early in life.
Am I missing anything? So the main issue I see is lack of successful black owned businesses and possibly churches could continue to be a positive safe haven. Trump is actually trying to help small businesses so we'll see if it helps them on that front. My main point is that this is an internally doable and solvable problem for blacks.
https://observer.com/2017/02/trumps...s-policies-will-help-black-entrepreneurs-too/
No one, I never get banned, because I dont stoop down to the level of some in here.Who was Alex915 before he was banned?
There's a few million more like that out there, Trump just brought them out of the woodwork. And just because someone is a minority, doesn't make them not a racist (against their own ethnic group sometimes.)So...
Create all the problems associated with systemic racism, oppression and poverty, then blame the victims for those problems.
Got it.
You're racist against blacks. You need to realize that.
And dont forget that he wanted persecuted whistleblowers who revealed the extent of the surveillance state to be given the death penaltyYour supposed pinnacle standard of libertarianism threw hundreds of thousands of otherwise law-abiding Americans into prisons for his failed war on drugs, seized hundreds of millions of dollars worth of private property through unconstitutional asset forfeiture (also war on drugs), and all this while doubling both government spending and the deficit.
I'm guessing that you don't know what the word libertarian means.
Well said..... it's also very similar to the way the sugar industry was bribing scientists not to release info about how sugar consumption could lead to obesity and diabetes. There are numerous examples of corrupt corporations using their money in this way (see Merck and Vioxx, Monsanto and Kevin Folta, etc.)- very similar to how dark money corrupts politics today. Repealing Citizens United would be a start but who knows when we'll get there.Trump said there were "very fine people on both sides." Please name any of the "very fine people" who marched for white nationalism that day. Your selective memory is quite telling. Trump showed his hand by throwing a dog whistle to racism and a bone to racists. He gave equal validity to white nationalist and those who protest against racism.
You ignoring that is a form of racism. The sad part is, you're probably not even aware of it. You seem to honestly believe that white nationalists and people who protest against racism have equal validity or worse, that the white nationalists have more.
No. Trump far from libertarian. He's authoritarian. Picking a couple issues does not paint the whole picture. You're cherry picking examples.
Yes, he's destroying many parts of the government but not to free us. Because when you add in his authoritarian, dictatorial side, you see WHY he is tearing things apart. And it is not individual freedom, but autocracy. To consolidate his own power. To destroy any and all dissension.
Why would any libertarian tell people a free press is the "enemy of the people?"
Whoops.
No, I do not support big L libertarians. Why? Because I have a brain. Libertarianism (as the official philosophy/ideology stands today) and anarcho-capitalism fail because they ignore basic human nature. They imagine a utopia filled with people their own morals cannot even live up to. As readily evidenced with Moly.
I am a small L libertarian. In that I believe in the maximum individual liberty one can have, while protecting the rights and liberties of every other individual, and society as a whole.
Why in the actual fuck would ANYONE condemn BLM as a whole??? (Sure, some individuals had issues with how they handled things, but as a whole? NO.) And why in the actual fuck would you compare white nationalists with BLM?
BLM does not assume supremacy of their race. They only seek to survive and be treated with equality in a country in which blacks are systematically oppressed through unequal and unfair treatment by law enforcement, the justice system, and employment. Are they angry? You bet. You would be too. The problem is, you deny the racism exists and no matter how they protest, they are wrong.
White nationalists assume racial supremacy, seek to limit racial mixing and seek to maintain and increase the systemic racism that is pervasive in our society. You're a good example of that. You seek to maintain the status quo and refuse to recognize the racism that exists.
That I have to explain this to you exemplifies your own racism. That you would compare a protest group seeking racial equality to a supremacy group seeking REMOVAL of equality is simply astounding. No wonder you defend Nazis. Comparing BLM to white supremacists is like comparing MLK to the KKK.
As I said, libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism has been taken over by white nationalist authoritarians and its followers duped. The more we talk, the more obvious it is that you yourself are a prime example of this. It's painfully obvious when you hear Moly, Peterson and Sargon of Akkad speak. And it's painfully obvious when their followers like you speak.
And finally, climate change denial IS science denial. You may as well be a flat earther, anti-vaxxer and AIDS denier too. Because all are equally delusional.
It's no surprise you've bought into other pseudoscience as well.
The conspiratard theory that climate change is a communist plot reminds me of the fluoride idiots and chemtrails.
Climate change denial today is IDENTICAL to the denial campaign that denied smoking causes cancer in the 60s and 70s. IDENTICAL. And the same type of people who were duped by the later are being duped by the former. The intentions and origins are identical too. It is a corporate campaign to spread disinformation and uncertainty to maintain a status quo for energy companies. And the believers are useful idiots.
It's amusing you guys are calling the Repubs nazis when the Democrats have always been the party of the nazis. Projecting?
It's amusing you guys are calling the Repubs nazis when the Democrats have always been the party of the nazis. Projecting?