Clearly you don't understand deterrents or a layered defense. The wall, which is actually a fence, is universally the first layer in preventing egress into or out of any controlled area. Military bases, airports, construction sites, schools, playgrounds, and borders are all places where deterrent barriers are used. A fence alone will almost never stop an intruder, they work in conjunction with a second and often a third layer deterrent. The second layer can be guards, electronic monitoring, or land mines.
It's a system.
Or hand grenades?Clearly you don't understand deterrents or a layered defense. The wall, which is actually a fence, is universally the first layer in preventing egress into or out of any controlled area. Military bases, airports, construction sites, schools, playgrounds, and borders are all places where deterrent barriers are used. A fence alone will almost never stop an intruder, they work in conjunction with a second and often a third layer deterrent. The second layer can be guards, electronic monitoring, or land mines.
It's a system.
Only if there are women and kids in the tunnel........Or hand grenades?
Clearly you don't understand deterrents or a layered defense. The wall, which is actually a fence, is universally the first layer in preventing egress into or out of any controlled area. Military bases, airports, construction sites, schools, playgrounds, and borders are all places where deterrent barriers are used. A fence alone will almost never stop an intruder, they work in conjunction with a second and often a third layer deterrent. The second layer can be guards, electronic monitoring, or land mines.
It's a system.
Doesn't much matter what you call it, it's the idea that the "wall" on it's own would stop illegal border crossings that's stupid. It's a first line deterrent, that's all it could ever be.Hmmm. I clearly remember the catch phrase was build the wall.
Build the fence sounds mega lame
Seems cheaper and more environmentally friendly to nail employers' asses to the wall for hiring undocumented folks. The data from the great recession clearly shows that when employment opportunities for undocumented workers dry up, they go/stay home.Doesn't much matter what you call it, it's the idea that the "wall" on it's own would stop illegal border crossings that's stupid. It's a first line deterrent, that's all it could ever be.
I agree. Nail employers to the wall, though many pay cash, so it's tough to catch them. I'd also go with no drivers licenses, no government assistance of any kind, and no citizenship for babies born of non citizen parents.Seems cheaper and more environmentally friendly to nail employers' asses to the wall for hiring undocumented folks. The data from the great recession clearly shows that when employment opportunities for undocumented workers dry up, they go/stay home.
I agree. Nail employers to the wall, though many pay cash, so it's tough to catch them. I'd also go with no drivers licenses, no government assistance of any kind, and no citizenship for babies born of non citizen parents.
None of this is based in anger or hate, but the simple realization that when you reward a crime you're promoting more of it. I'd also like to see a guest worker program that's easy to use and grants the people who use it a clear path to citizenship. Lets make these folks into successful taxpayers.
Melanoma is Trumps legal wife. Barron is the child of a citizen.Show me the post where you complained about
Nunes family farm hiring illegals
Trump hiring illagals at mar a logo
Why is Melania still here she should be kicked out
And from your post Barron should be kicked out also.
Because all those people should be deported or fined.
otherwise you dont give a shit about following the law / immigration and you fence / wall comments are just bullshit
Melanoma is Trumps legal wife. Barron is the child of a citizen.
Hit a little nerve there did I?Show me the post where you complained about
Nunes family farm hiring illegals
Trump hiring illagals at mar a logo
Why is Melania still here she should be kicked out
And from your post Barron should be kicked out also.
Because all those people should be deported or fined.
otherwise you dont give a shit about following the law / immigration and you fence / wall comments are just bullshit
Hit a little nerve there did I?
My comments on the fence are completely valid. It's security 101. It goes right along with putting locks on doors, even doors made of glass.
I'll also note that the actions of others aren't my actions. I didn't hire an illegal, I didn't marry one. That I didn't decry the actions of others here is meaningless. I comment as I see fit, what you think of that never enters the equation.
Hit a little nerve there did I?
My comments on the fence are completely valid. It's security 101. It goes right along with putting locks on doors, even doors made of glass.
I'll also note that the actions of others aren't my actions. I didn't hire an illegal, I didn't marry one. That I didn't decry the actions of others here is meaningless. I comment as I see fit, what you think of that never enters the equation.
yes you did hit a nerve. It shows how fucking stupid are the gop and their followers.
The wall / fence is defeated by just buying a few things from Home Depot. Ladder rope battery powered sawzall/ disc grinder or bolt cutters maybe even a shovel
But you go out of your way to ignore the immigration issue that the law makers are doing themselves and you end up putting your faith they will do something useful when they are committed the crime you want them to fix. Fox watching the hen house while his home filled with chickens
Do you want to come to San Diego and show off your wall climbing/home depot tool abilities?
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“No structure is impenetrable, so we will continue to work to focus resources on modern, effective border management measures to improve safety and security,” Luis Miranda, a spokesperson for Customs and Border Protection (CBP) told the Post.
He added that border security “requires a variety of resources and efforts, infrastructure, technology, and personnel”, much of which was not funded when Trump’s wall was constructed.
So what you're saying here is that you're ignoring what I said about the fence in order to make a barely comprehensible point about the GOP, and then claiming everyone involved in it is stupid. Not a real solid argument.yes you did hit a nerve. It shows how fucking stupid are the gop and their followers.
The wall / fence is defeated by just buying a few things from Home Depot. Ladder rope battery powered sawzall/ disc grinder or bolt cutters maybe even a shovel
But you go out of your way to ignore the immigration issue that the law makers are doing themselves and you end up putting your faith they will do something useful when they are committed the crime you want them to fix. Fox watching the hen house while his home filled with chickens
So what you're saying here is that you're ignoring what I said about the fence in order to make a barely comprehensible point about the GOP, and then claiming everyone involved in it is stupid. Not a real solid argument.
I mean, an angle grinder will get through that just fine. I'd bring snippers for the razor wire though.Do you want to come to San Diego and show off your wall climbing/home depot tool abilities?
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Do you want to come to San Diego and show off your wall climbing/home depot tool abilities?
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Why bother when you can just take a jetski and bypass it entirely? I mean, you do know San Diego is on the ocean, right? Fat lot of good a fucking wall does there.
Also, didn't they find multiple tunnels that bypassed the wall in San Diego as well?
Hell at this point, that wall probably does more to keep homeless people in San Diego instead of going over to Tijuana than it does keeping immigrants out of San Diego.
Why bother when you can just take a jetski and bypass it entirely? I mean, you do know San Diego is on the ocean, right? Fat lot of good a fucking wall does there.
Also, didn't they find multiple tunnels that bypassed the wall in San Diego as well?
Hell at this point, that wall probably does more to keep homeless people in San Diego instead of going over to Tijuana than it does keeping immigrants out of San Diego.
How exactly does this pertain to understanding what a fence does? We've been discussing a fence, what a fence is for, and where it's commonly used. My political affiliations have no impact on the installation or use of fencing.if beating strawman was a Olympic sport, you’d get the gold.
Your obvious bias is obvious.
I mean, your preferred political party lives and breathes poor arguments, doesn’t seem to phase you one bit
“huh? Whuh?” - cognitive dissonance on full display.How exactly does this pertain to understanding what a fence does? We've been discussing a fence, what a fence is for, and where it's commonly used. My political affiliations have no impact on the installation or use of fencing.
It appears that you have nothing of value to add to the discussion so you decided on a weak attempt to make it a political issue. Good luck with that, I'll stick with the actual facts of what a fence is and what it's expected to do. I'm sure that if you think about it for a while, or ask your dad for some help, you'll be able to understand the information I presented.