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bctbct

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
I think Walmart's just a company that wants to earn a profit for its shareholders and is doing a good job of it. I really don't think it's a particularly evil corporation, just a very large and very high-profile one. Hundreds of other retail businesses ("big box stores") are probably in the exact same boat but are shielded by Walmart's drawing all of the attention to itself.

It isn't Walmart per se that wants Americans to suffer a third world existence. Rather, it's our politicians, news media, economists, and various businessmen. Walmart didn't make the immigration laws. Walmart didn't fail to seal the borders and let millions of illegal aliens pour in. Walmart didn't force America to join the WTO. Walmart didn't eliminate tariffs and trade barriers. Walmart doesn't make the laws that govern health care in this country, nor did Walmart prevent the nation from adopting some form of socialized medicine just like most of the other industrialized first world nations.

For the most part, Walmart just follows the laws and trys to make a profit on the playing field that was marked out by the politicians. Instead, blame our politicians, our politcal pundits, our news media, our economists, and our intellectuals for this mess. Also, blame the American populace in general for allowing all of it.


Read the news much?

Walmart does NOT follow the law.
 

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Instead, blame our politicians
Wrong. Blame it on yourselves. Americans are so clueless compared to europeans about politics and economics it's not even funny. Hell not even half vote here. And much less than half in state and regional elections. You truly get what you deserve. High taxes with zero to show for it that way. Crappy schools - no healthcare etc. hey but at least you're making Dubya's freinds rich.
 

JEDI

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ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???
 

Zebo

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Walmart is sueing maryland over the law.. I guess they are looking for an activist court - not willing to let the people's rule decide. Anyone read in the constitution "states shall not have the right to issue health care declarations on employers who do business in their state?" Not me.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses



also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Walmart is sueing maryland over the law.. I guess they are looking for an activist court - not willing to let the people's rule decide. Anyone read in the constitution "states shall not have the right to issue health care declarations on employers who do business in their state?" Not me.

Awwwwww, your poor Wally World getting beat up on

I see a lot of things Republicans have done that I don't see written in the Constitution either, that isn't stopping them.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart??? md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

plus it takes time to open a new store. welfare rolls swell in the meantime. md taxpayers fip that bill.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart???

md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

and that is a problem why???
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart???

md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

and that is a problem why???

wtf? you think higher prices for everyone is a good thing?!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart???

md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

and that is a problem why???

wtf? you think higher prices for everyone is a good thing?!

Yes if American goods, Companies and Jobs.

Take the cheap junk and jobs and shove it.

Remember, You get what you pay for.
 
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Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

It would hurt Maryland businesses since most small businesses in Maryland are more or less headquartered in Maryland (though perhaps not necessarily incorporated there). By making the large out-of-state businesses do it, it puts most of the hurt on them. It's kind of like a tariff in a way.

If I were the large big box stores I would look into trying to challenge it on the basis of its discriminating on the size of the business (which I think states can do to a point, but only to a certain point) and also that it might violate the Interstate Commerce Clause. I don't know if it would work since I'm not a scholar in those areas, but it would be worth their looking into.
 
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Originally posted by: JEDI

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

Many would end up working at whatever businesses would expand to fill the gaping hole left by Walmart.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart???

md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

and that is a problem why???

wtf? you think higher prices for everyone is a good thing?!

Yes if American goods, Companies and Jobs.

Take the cheap junk and jobs and shove it.

Remember, You get what you pay for.

well, thats where we have our differences dmcowen674. i like walmart's non-clothing merchandise. and I prefer the lowest price for the stuff i buy.

and i think it's unfair to force 1 company to do something, and not apply it to all companies.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JEDI
ironic part about md forcing walmart to provide health insurance is that md's governer doesnt want that bill expanded to smaller businesses. he said that he doesnt want socialized heath care. WTF?! :disgust:

Oh come on.

It's because the Wally World uninsured empoyees wind up draining the State Health resources because they are working poor.

Are you willing to say every employee at small businesses are working poor???

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

also in the news, kmart, target, and others retailers expand to take up the space created by walmarts void.

and do you think they offer health benefits better than walmart???

md is back at square one. but the people of md lose because kmart/target's prices are higher than walmart's.

and that is a problem why???

wtf? you think higher prices for everyone is a good thing?!

If it lowers the amount tax payers pick up...yes.

Remember, walfart has the highest percentage of employees without insurance. When a competetor takes over their market, more people will have insurance.

 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: JEDI

walmart leaves MD. MD now has 100k workers unemployed. they go on welfare. now not only is md picking up the health resources, they're now picking up the welfare tab was well.

plus w/wally out of MD, the people of md lose because there goes a source of inexpensive items. everyone loses

Many would end up working at whatever businesses would expand to fill the gaping hole left by Walmart.



Once again....Walfart has the highest percentage of uninsured workers...so no matter who takes over...more workers will have insurance.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: JEDI


well, thats where we have our differences dmcowen674. i like walmart's non-clothing merchandise. and I prefer the lowest price for the stuff i buy.

and i think it's unfair to force 1 company to do something, and not apply it to all companies.


I would contend that you pay more in taxes to support the savings. Walfart being the cheapest is somewhat a myth that has been proven many times. If you only buy certain things there you may save, but as a whole if you shop their for all your needs, you may be paying more.

I think the lastest figure is 57% of their employees have no healthcare...how much does that cost you in taxes?

 
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Originally posted by: bctbct

Remember, walfart has the highest percentage of employees without insurance. When a competetor takes over their market, more people will have insurance.

You know, that might also be a testament to Walmart's efficiency. It could be an indication that it isn't very top heavy in terms of its having a large and bloated management.
 

dmcowen674

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Good

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

3-10-2006Clinton Quiet About Wal-Mart Ties

With retail giant Wal-Mart under fire to improve its labor and health care policies, one Democrat with deep ties to the company ? Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ? has started feeling her share of the political heat.

Clinton served on Wal-Mart's board of directors for six years when her husband was governor of Arkansas. And the Rose Law Firm, where she was a partner, handled many of the Arkansas-based company's legal affairs.

But in recent months, as the company has become a target for Democratic activists, she has largely steered clear of any mention of Wal-Mart. And late last year, Clinton's re-election campaign returned a $5,000 contribution from Wal-Mart, citing "serious differences with current company practices."

In 1986, when Wal-Mart's founder, Sam Walton, tapped Clinton to be the company's first female board member, Wal-Mart was a fraction of its current size, with $11.9 billion in net sales.

Throughout the 1980s, both Bill and Hillary Clinton nurtured relationships with Walton, a conservative Republican and by far Arkansas' most influential businessman.

And Wal-Mart's Made in America campaign, which for years touted the company's sales of American products in its stores, was launched after Bill Clinton persuaded Walton to help save 200 jobs at an Arkansas shirt manufacturing plant. The Made in America campaign has virtually vanished in recent years, as the company's manufacturing has gradually moved overseas ? another point of criticism by many anti-Wal-Mart activists.

The Clintons also benefited financially from Wal-Mart. Hillary Clinton was paid $18,000 each year she served on the board, plus $1,500 for each meeting she attended. By 1993 she had accumulated at least $100,000 in Wal-Mart stock, according to Bill Clinton's federal financial disclosure that year. The Clintons also flew for free on Wal-Mart corporate planes 14 times in 1990 and 1991 in preparation for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential bid.

Bob Ortega, author of "In Sam We Trust," a history of Wal-Mart, said Clinton used her position to urge the company to improve its gender and racial diversity. Because of Clinton's prodding, Walton agreed to hire an outside firm to track the company's progress in hiring women and minorities, Ortega said.

"These were things the company was not addressing and wouldn't have, had she not pushed them to do so," Ortega said. "She's somebody who could definitely get things done."

In fact, Clinton proved to be such a thorn in Walton's side that at Wal-Mart's annual meeting in 1987, when shareholders challenged Walton on the company's lack of female managers, he assured them the record was improving "now that we have a strong willed young lady on the board."

"Hillary had real impact ? when she had an idea, things got moving," he said. "When she resigned from the committee, it stopped having any innovative ideas and stopped being effective."

Still, critics say there was little tangible change at Wal-Mart during Clinton's tenure, despite her apparent prodding.

"There's no evidence she did anything to improve the status of women or make it a very different place in ways Mrs. Clinton's Democratic base would care about," said Liza Featherstone, author of "Selling Women Short: The Landmark Battle for Worker's Rights at Wal-Mart."
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It's all in Black & White

Elect me or you get more of the same whether it be from the Republican Club of Thieves or the Democrat Club of Thieves.
 

dmcowen674

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This is awesome.

It's a small first step but a step in the right direction.

Long live American Business

4-14-2006 Wal-Mart Drops Gun Sales in Third of Stores

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has decided to stop selling guns in about a third of its U.S. stores in what it calls a marketing decision based on lack of demand in some places, a company spokeswoman said Friday.

The change could be a boon for mom-and-pop hunting stores that lost business when Wal-Mart moved in, said Steve Wagner, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the shooting, hunting and firearms industry.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome.

It's a small first step but a step in the right direction.

Long live American Business

4-14-2006 Wal-Mart Drops Gun Sales in Third of Stores

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. has decided to stop selling guns in about a third of its U.S. stores in what it calls a marketing decision based on lack of demand in some places, a company spokeswoman said Friday.

The change could be a boon for mom-and-pop hunting stores that lost business when Wal-Mart moved in, said Steve Wagner, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the shooting, hunting and firearms industry.



NOt sure how it will be a boon for mom and pop stores. There are many chain sproting good stores that have a far better selection of guns than walmart could ever think about. A Cabellas recently opened up nearby. it is abosoluty huge.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: burnedout<BR>Hey Dave, here's another Wally World story for ya:<BR><BR>Study: Low Wal-Mart Wages Cost California $86 mil
<BR><BR>I was just about to add it in here.<BR><BR>Simply put in English:<BR><BR>Walmart pays such low pay <$7 hr that Californians that work there cannot afford Health Insurance<BR><BR>They make so little they qualify for public assistance so the rest of the Taxpayers of Californians with real jobs that pay >$16hr pay for the public assistance for the Wally World Employees.


I believe this link will serve you better. Study: Wal-Mart policies cost California taxpayers

In this report your <$7 an hour is way off. The University of California Berkley says they are paid an average of $9.70 an hour and Wal-Mart says they are paid $10.37 an hour. I assume your under $7 was for those who believe such nonsense.

The study talks about the lack of medical benefits. Guess what, insurance is optional as is savings. Wal-Mart can't force them to take the insurance benefits. Besides, since so many expect that medical care should be free why should they pay for it.

It seems to me that $9.70 and hour, or $10.37, is exceptional for unskilled labor. Why work for such low wages? No skills either yet learned or no desire to learn better skills. The desire to stay under a certain income level in order to avoid losing Government benefits. Retirees are working part time in an unstressful job. Students are working part time while going to school. Many valid reasons.

Just because you can't conceive of why someone would work for such pay doen't mean it is a bad situation. Nor does it imply that it is a great situation. So, all I"m saying is you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Nor should you fabricate information to fit an agenda.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Crimson<BR>Unions are the way to go for the lazy and worthless workers.
<BR><BR>There you go Working Class Americans, what the NeoCons really think of you. <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>At least are being Honest about it now, interesting twist as they get more and more desperate with T-minus 90 days till losing their Fearless Liar.


Just won`t happen!!

The Dem`s have no viable solutions and they have no viable candidate!!

Thast why a republican will be in the white house for 4 more years!!
 
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