Walmart:11-21-06 Wal-Mart slashes food prices in half ahead of Thanksgiving

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: yetti
WAL-MART TOSSED OUT OF NEW YORK CITY
By Mark Gruenberg, PAI, ILCA Associate Member

QUEENS, N.Y. (PAI)--First it was Los Angeles, then it was Chicago. And now it's the borough of Queens in New York City.
The nation's largest retailer, Wal-Mart, has been forcibly thrown out of the nation's three largest cities due to its low wages, bad benefits and anti-worker policies.

The latest ejection came Feb. 23, when the Vornado Realty Trust decided to develop a large shopping complex in the borough --but without a 132,000-square-foot Wal-Mart as its centerpiece.

Wal-Mart denied it had a deal with Vornado, but it was con-tradicted by community leaders and the chair of the New York City Council's Land Use Committee, which must approve such deals.

"We welcome Vornado's decision that Wal-Mart will not be part of its development in Queens," said Stuart Appelbaum, President of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, part of the United Food and Commercial Workers.

UFCW is leading a nationwide drive to unionize Wal-Mart--and to publicize its low wages, bad benefits, labor law-breaking and discrimination on the job.

"Any developer should hesitate to consider including Wal-Mart in any future plans. Wal-Mart's detrimental impact on communi-ties where they operate stores will continue to generate strong opposition wherever they attempt to open," Appelbaum added.

"Working families in New York simply cannot afford the high cost that comes with Wal-Mart's promise of low prices. Wal-Mart's low wages and benefits and their willingness to break labor laws not only hurt their own employees but put pressure on employers who play by the rules.

"We expect that this is not the last we've heard from Wal-Mart in this city and New Yorkers will be ready to protect our communities and stand up to this bully no matter how they try to sneak in next," Appelbaum warned. A Wal-Mart spokeswoman said the million-worker Arkansas-headquartered behemoth still seeks a site in New York City.

Last year, after publicity about its low-paying jobs, bad benefits and discrimination, voters in a lower-income majority-minority Los Angeles suburb voted against a zoning change that would have let Wal-Mart in.

Publicity about those same issues led the Chicago City Council to enact a "Big Box Living Wage Ordinance"--and Wal-Mart dropped plans for two supercenters in low-income areas there.

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I live close to where this would have happened. Funny thing is that within a mile of the location are a bunch of big box retailers that pay the same or less than what wal mart pays. Across the street from the proposed location is a Sears, Bed Bath and Beyond, CC, and Old Navy. Less than a mile away are Best Buy, Macy's, JC Penny, Seamans, Target and a bunch of other stores. I willing to bet some quick campaign donations came in to local politicians to fight Wal Mart.

 

[judasmachine]

Wal Mart has about the same human rights record as China, but since they make billions the right wing loves them, just like China. WalMart does more to destroy the American Dream than almost anyone else. No small business man can compete. In the small town where I run a PC business, there are no longer any clothiers, no novelty shops, no optomitrist. They all got run off by Wal Mart putting a damn supercenter in a town of 13,000 people that didn't need it. If they start a "Geek Squad" type thing I'd be finished or forced to live on alot less than I do. Wal Mart must die.

Yes I am a small business owner in Texas, and a liberal.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: alent1234
I live close to where this would have happened. Funny thing is that within a mile of the location are a bunch of big box retailers that pay the same or less than what wal mart pays. Across the street from the proposed location is a Sears, Bed Bath and Beyond, CC, and Old Navy. Less than a mile away are Best Buy, Macy's, JC Penny, Seamans, Target and a bunch of other stores.

I willing to bet some quick campaign donations came in to local politicians to fight Wal Mart.

Whatever it takes, we are at (WWW) War with Wally World.

 

[Acanthus]

I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
Wal Mart has about the same human rights record as China, but since they make billions the right wing loves them, just like China. WalMart does more to destroy the American Dream than almost anyone else. No small business man can compete. In the small town where I run a PC business, there are no longer any clothiers, no novelty shops, no optomitrist. They all got run off by Wal Mart putting a damn supercenter in a town of 13,000 people that didn't need it. If they start a "Geek Squad" type thing I'd be finished or forced to live on alot less than I do. Wal Mart must die.

Yes I am a small business owner in Texas, and a liberal.

if they can do a similar quality service for cheaper what is the problem? Is there some right to stay in business no matter what happens?

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: judasmachine
Wal Mart has about the same human rights record as China, but since they make billions the right wing loves them, just like China. WalMart does more to destroy the American Dream than almost anyone else. No small business man can compete. In the small town where I run a PC business, there are no longer any clothiers, no novelty shops, no optomitrist. They all got run off by Wal Mart putting a damn supercenter in a town of 13,000 people that didn't need it. If they start a "Geek Squad" type thing I'd be finished or forced to live on alot less than I do. Wal Mart must die.

Yes I am a small business owner in Texas, and a liberal.

if they can do a similar quality service for cheaper what is the problem? Is there some right to stay in business no matter what happens?

There are several problems with making your decision on that one fact:

1. There are values other than direct economic. If a value or cost isn't measured in dollars, the free market will miss it. Pollution, sprawl, and other undesirable externalities result from missing these indirect factors.

2. Like any mindless process, the free market can only select local maxima. While processes like natural selection can achieve remarkable goals, they can't climb a hill which offers worse results to reach a higher global maximum.

 

[DealMonkey]

Hey you think if ALL Wal-Mart employees threaten to go union, they'll shut down every store?!?

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: cquark

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: judasmachine
Wal Mart has about the same human rights record as China, but since they make billions the right wing loves them, just like China. WalMart does more to destroy the American Dream than almost anyone else. No small business man can compete. In the small town where I run a PC business, there are no longer any clothiers, no novelty shops, no optomitrist. They all got run off by Wal Mart putting a damn supercenter in a town of 13,000 people that didn't need it. If they start a "Geek Squad" type thing I'd be finished or forced to live on alot less than I do. Wal Mart must die.

Yes I am a small business owner in Texas, and a liberal.

if they can do a similar quality service for cheaper what is the problem? Is there some right to stay in business no matter what happens?

There are several problems with making your decision on that one fact:

1. There are values other than direct economic. If a value or cost isn't measured in dollars, the free market will miss it. Pollution, sprawl, and other undesirable externalities result from missing these indirect factors.

2. Like any mindless process, the free market can only select local maxima. While processes like natural selection can achieve remarkable goals, they can't climb a hill which offers worse results to reach a higher global maximum.

if you think that there is less pollution in cities I have a bridge to sell you that is around 15 minutes from where i live. talk about sprawl all you want, but even today only a tiny percentage of total land it habitated by humans.

what is this higher goal that you think the free market cannot reach?

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey you think if ALL Wal-Mart employees threaten to go union, they'll shut down every store?!?

if wal mart's employees unionize then all they do is screw themselves. Wal Mart will have to raise prices and it will lose it's most competative quality. Other stores thrive with higher prices because they have found business segments where people prefer to purchase higher quality goods that cost more. Wal Mart's employees can unionize all they want, but it may mean a lot of them losing their jobs when stores start closing.

 

[Acanthus]

and my post gets ignored

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

you don't get it

the people who hate wal mart the most live in NYC, LA and SF and have probably never been in one

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: cquark

Originally posted by: alent1234
if they can do a similar quality service for cheaper what is the problem? Is there some right to stay in business no matter what happens?

There are several problems with making your decision on that one fact:

1. There are values other than direct economic. If a value or cost isn't measured in dollars, the free market will miss it. Pollution, sprawl, and other undesirable externalities result from missing these indirect factors.

2. Like any mindless process, the free market can only select local maxima. While processes like natural selection can achieve remarkable goals, they can't climb a hill which offers worse results to reach a higher global maximum.

if you think that there is less pollution in cities I have a bridge to sell you that is around 15 minutes from where i live. talk about sprawl all you want, but even today only a tiny percentage of total land it habitated by humans.

What are you talking about? I didn't say anything about less pollution in cities.

Those were just examples of externalities, a well known issue in economics. It doesn't matter particularly which ones you choose, just that externalities exist.

what is this higher goal that you think the free market cannot reach?

I didn't mention a higher goal; I'm not sure what that would mean in any case. I pointed out the the free market suffers from the same problems of any simple optimization algorithm: it can only find local maxima, not global maxima.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey you think if ALL Wal-Mart employees threaten to go union, they'll shut down every store?!?

if wal mart's employees unionize then all they do is screw themselves. Wal Mart will have to raise prices and it will lose it's most competative quality. Other stores thrive with higher prices because they have found business segments where people prefer to purchase higher quality goods that cost more. Wal Mart's employees can unionize all they want, but it may mean a lot of them losing their jobs when stores start closing.

You misunderstand, I was hoping they'd close all of their stores. Anyyyywayyyy, since that's unlikely to happen, let me respond more OT: Wal-Mart could quite easily offset any increased cost due to unionization by:

(A) Operating more efficiently with less employees working longer (read: normal) hours -- fire those idiotic "greeters" first . . .

(B) Advertising less -- in particular less need to try and offset bad PR by running huge "Wal-Mart is good. Really. We're not the bad guy here." type ad campaigns. I lump them in with tobacco companies who have to try so desperately to counter their negative image that they probably spend billions/year on TV/Radio/Web.

(C) In fact, why bother advertising at all? All of the mercenary shoppers out there already know that you have the low, low prices and don't care that the cheap crap on your shelves comes from China, single-handedly spiking our trade deficit with that country into the clouds. They don't need super happy satan ball bouncing through their stores to prove that point.

End-result? Billions upon billions saved.

 

[alent1234]

how are you going to work with less employees who are unionized? Unions are notorious for forcing companies to hire more people. A few years ago Boeing fought with it's unions because the contract said that parts came into one side of the plant and needed an army of people to move them. Boeing wanted a more efficient process of delivering parts in the right place and the unions were against it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: alent1234

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

you don't get it

the people who hate wal mart the most live in NYC, LA and SF and have probably never been in one

I have lived in all three of those cities and have been in SF for 10 years I have been to wal marts in at least 10-15 diffrent states.
No matter where you go to one it's been white trash central. W/ junk product.
It makes me sad seeing the zombies I usually hang out outside if I have to be around one. Too depressing seeing the sheep in such large numbers shop for their garbage with the glaezd over blank stare of the doomed.
The place always smells like cheap plastic no matter where you are at and human isolation/misery.
No thanks.
I am very happy with my local buisnesses no need for a huge junk store here.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

Success is not paying your employees like crap offering the lowest price junk you can get away with and forcing everyone else out of buisness becasue you have the capitol
to dump your trash on every city in amercia becasue you could care less about quality or service. It's capitalism run amok and monoplolistic.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

They do owe us. Not just anything, but everything. Not because they're successful, but because they and all corporations are legal fictions that we the people created as part of our laws. They exist as long as they serve our purposes as a people, not for their own purposes or for those of their owners.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

Success is not paying your employees like crap offering the lowest price junk you can get away with and forcing everyone else out of buisness becasue you have the capitol
to dump your trash on every city in amercia becasue you could care less about quality or service. It's capitalism run amok and monoplolistic.

I still dont see how $10 an hour after less than a year for unskilled labor is paying your employees like crap. Again, hows the competition squaring up?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

I still dont see how $10 an hour after less than a year for unskilled labor is paying your employees like crap. Again, hows the competition squaring up?[/quote]

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.
Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance

Again, you've got some gumption for psoting and I am at a loss for words to even respond.

This thread is so sad, we're doomed

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

I still dont see how $10 an hour after less than a year for unskilled labor is paying your employees like crap. Again, hows the competition squaring up?

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.
Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance

Again, you've got some gumption for psoting and I am at a loss for words to even respond.

This thread is so sad, we're doomed
[/quote]

Its a job while i get through school, why would i be ashamed of working there?

If you work at walmart as a career, and arent motivated enough to get into management you DESERVE $12 an hour for the rest of your life. Again, why should walmart shell out to do the same job you do at a convenience store. They offer competitive wages for retail and have the best opportunity for advancement in retail right now.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

Success is not paying your employees like crap offering the lowest price junk you can get away with and forcing everyone else out of buisness becasue you have the capitol
to dump your trash on every city in amercia becasue you could care less about quality or service. It's capitalism run amok and monoplolistic.

I still dont see how $10 an hour after less than a year for unskilled labor is paying your employees like crap. Again, hows the competition squaring up?

Not only that, after 4 years you will be making over$ 12 an hour. Lucky for you there are no trained Monkeys in the labor market.

Of course if you wanted to improve your lot in life you could always join a building trade labor Union which pays it's first year apprentices at least $14 an hour will great benefits and actually teaches you a skilled trade that you can use for the rest of your life. Here in Boston a Journeyman Sheet Metal Worker makes $45 an hour and if you include the Benefits package that comes out to over $65 an hour.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I work for walmart.

I make a fair wage for the work i do, it is unskilled labor.

My work IS dangerous, im a forklift driver, my managers and OSHA ensure i have equipment that is in good working order, and that all associates are properly trained. Safety guidlines are strictly enforced, even if it takes longer to complete work.

Walmart is self-insured. They have every motivation in the world to protect their workers.

We get regular raises and benefits are available to us should we opt for them.

If you have never worked for Walmart, please dont comment on their working conditions.

Originally posted by: Acanthus
and my post gets ignored

No, most just decided to not respond on purpose.

First I give you credit for admitting you

a) work for Wally World

b) said you are unskilled and getting paid lowly accordingly

however whether the wage is "fair" especially when you mention it is "dangerous" is debateable.

Regular raises??? What a nickel an hour raise once a year from an already low wage to begin with???

"and benefits are available to us should we opt for them" At what cost???

I'm amazed you defend the place.

Its unskilled labor, A MONKEY CAN DO THE JOB THAT I DO.

Regular raises are .45-.55 cents a year based on performance, with an option for manager sponsored merit raises of 10-55 cents every 6 months also based on performance. Working 3rd shift gets you night differential, another 50 cents.

It REALLY shows how much you know about the company. What do their competitors offer? Do you see target paying for everyones medical benefits? how about wegmans? Giant eagle? K-mart? Sears?

REALLY ITS RETAIL, GET A CLUE.

You can hate them because they are big and successful, dont hate them based on a retarded presumption that because they are successful they owe you or anyone else anything.

Success is not paying your employees like crap offering the lowest price junk you can get away with and forcing everyone else out of buisness becasue you have the capitol
to dump your trash on every city in amercia becasue you could care less about quality or service. It's capitalism run amok and monoplolistic.

I still dont see how $10 an hour after less than a year for unskilled labor is paying your employees like crap. Again, hows the competition squaring up?

Not only that, after 4 years you will be making over$ 12 an hour. Lucky for you there are no trained Monkeys in the labor market.

Of course if you wanted to improve your lot in life you could always join a building trade labor Union which pays it's first year apprentices at least $14 an hour will great benefits and actually teaches you a skilled trade that you can use for the rest of your life. Here in Boston a Journeyman Sheet Metal Worker makes $45 an hour and if you include the Benefits package that comes out to over $65 an hour.

I agree there are far better fields to be in, but for the time being, and my location. Walmart is the best option while im going to school. I dont claim they are great or the end-all job to have, in fact id argue against working for walmart for long periods if you dont aspire to get into management. But for a "just a job" job, its not bad at all.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I agree there are far better fields to be in, but for the time being, and my location. Walmart is the best option while im going to school. I dont claim they are great or the end-all job to have, in fact id argue against working for walmart for long periods if you dont aspire to get into management. But for a "just a job" job, its not bad at all.

Hey for kids going to College $10 an hour is better than making minimum wage working at Mickey D's