Walmart 50" Magnavox plasma $1,896.00

[gregtor]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4698013

Not to bad for a 50"

HDMI: Yes

Product Type: 50" plasma TV

Diagonal Size: 50" - widescreen

HDTV Ready: Yes

Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i

Tuner Qty: 1 tuner(s)

Speakers Included: 2 speakers

Width: 55.6 in

Height: 32.2 in

Depth: 11 in

Weight: 114.6 lbs

Power Consumption Operational: 480 Watt

Power Consumption Stand by / Sleep: 0.9 Watt

Closed Caption Capability: Yes

Supported Computer Resolutions: 640 x 480 (VGA), 800 x 600 (SVGA), 1280 x 768 (WXGA)

Remote Control Type: Remote control - infrared

Digital TV Tuner Type: ATSC DTV / QAM

Reception System: NTSC

Dimensions & Weight Details: TV set - 55.6 in x 11 in x 32.2 in x 114.6 lbs

Additional Features: Auto volume adjustment

Sound Effects: Virtual Dolby Digital

Sound Output Mode: Stereo

Power Device: Power supply - internal

Voltage Required: AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )

Connector Type: 1 x HDMI ( 19 pin HDMI Type A ) - rear ¦ 2 x component video input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - rear ¦ 3 x composite video/audio input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - rear ¦ 1 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - rear ¦ 1 x SPDIF output ( RCA phono ) - rear ¦ 1 x headphones ( mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm ) - side ¦ 1 x S-Video input ( 4 pin mini-DIN ) - side ¦ 1 x composite video/audio input ( RCA phono x 3 ) - side

TV Type: High Definition TV

Technology: Plasma (PDP)

Resolution: 1366 x 768

Image Aspect Ratio: 16:9

Image Contrast Ratio: 10000:1

Progressive Scan: Progressive scanning (line doubling)

Viewing Angle: 170 degrees

Comb Filter: 3D digital

Additional Features: 3:2 pulldown compensation, 2:2 pulldown compensation

TV Tuner: 1x analog, 1x digital

Brightness: 1500 cd/m2

Viewing Angle (Vertical): 170 degrees

V-Chip Control: Yes

Display Menu Language: English, French, Spanish

Display Format: 720p

Model No.: 50MF231D/37

Shipping Weight (in pounds): 147.0

Instruction Manual: Y

Instruction Languages: English, Spanish, French

Assembled in Country of Origin: Imported

Origin of Components: Imported

Wal-Mart No.: 000533559

 

[nguyendot1]

This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

 

[cparent]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: gregtor
Resolution: 1366 x 768

Everything is going to get scaled to this res

 

[nealh]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: gregtor
Resolution: 1366 x 768

Everything is going to get scaled to this res

for the ignorant like me..does this upscaling /downscaling mean alot...I would guess it affect over sharpness/detail

I see very few 1080p out there..in fact if I understand correctly not all HDTV signals are in fact 1080p

 

[Gunslinger08]

Pretty much every 50" plasma is 1366x768. It looks very good to me.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: cparent

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

But that is true of every plasma TV that is 1366x768... My 43" Pioneer Elite does the same thing, and it looks amazing.

Most plasma TV's are 1080i, and nearly all Plasmas that are 50" and below are 1366x768.

Very few plasma TV's will do 1080p, and those that do so are $7000 or more.

 

[Rage187]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

because there is a difference between what resolutions it supports and what resolution it displays.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: cparent

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

But that is true of every plasma TV that is 1366x768... My 43" Pioneer Elite does the same thing, and it looks amazing.

Most plasma TV's are 1080i, and nearly all Plasmas that are 50" and below are 1366x768.

Very few plasma TV's will do 1080p, and those that do so are $7000 or more.

Which Pioneer Elite 43" is 1366 x 768 native?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: cparent

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

But that is true of every plasma TV that is 1366x768... My 43" Pioneer Elite does the same thing, and it looks amazing.

Most plasma TV's are 1080i, and nearly all Plasmas that are 50" and below are 1366x768.

Very few plasma TV's will do 1080p, and those that do so are $7000 or more.

Which Pioneer Elite 43" is 1366 x 768 native?

Last year's PDP-4350SX that was built specifically for Tweeter for their exclusive 2005 Black Friday deal. It was basically the same thing as the Elite model, just without the separate media-box.

It's a fun TV

 

[royaldank]

No plasmas are 1080i. Plasmas, DLPs, and LCDs are progressive displays. Just about all support 1080i nowdays.

Only devices right now spitting out 1080p content are BluRay players, a couple HD-DVD players I think, and the XBOX360/PS3. It's will be a LONG time before 1080p is ever sent out for broadcast television. If you do get a 1080p tv, I suggest making sure it will accept a 1080p signal via the connections you want. Not all 1080p sets accept a 1080p signal, especially if it's more than a year or so old.

 

[Surr]

The biggest advantage of a 1080p plasma or LCD is that it will display 1080i source material, and not downconvert it to 720i (or p). Most HD broadcasts are 1080i. The last I checked the only HD broadcasts that were 720p were ESPN and ABC. I have a 1080i projection TV and a 720p LCD. In my opinion, the 1080i source material looks much better on the 1080i display versus the 720p display. A 1080p display should look the same as a 1080i display when viewing 1080i source.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: cparent

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

But that is true of every plasma TV that is 1366x768... My 43" Pioneer Elite does the same thing, and it looks amazing.

Most plasma TV's are 1080i, and nearly all Plasmas that are 50" and below are 1366x768.

Very few plasma TV's will do 1080p, and those that do so are $7000 or more.

Which Pioneer Elite 43" is 1366 x 768 native?

Last year's PDP-4350SX that was built specifically for Tweeter for their exclusive 2005 Black Friday deal. It was basically the same thing as the Elite model, just without the separate media-box.

It's a fun TV

The Elite 43" is 1024 x 768 native.

 

[somecreepyoldguy]

The 42 inch Akai at local Sams Clubs seems like a much better deal to me.
1024x1024 res which is a little strange (square res at 16:9 shape).
It takes a 1080p signal but it doesn't advertise it.
Only 999.99

Gears of war is noticebly better moving from 720p -> 1080i -> 1080p.

One of you mentioned that 1920x1080p was somehow a higher reolution than 1920x1080i
which you can see that its not only displayed faster for better movement.

The model at Sams Club lacks a tuner but if you have satellite or cable there is no need for one anyways, two progressive component inputs, hdmi, and vga, and two rca and 1 s-video if i remeber right

Dark colors are off a little bit but its probably my settings (Supposedly Akai is rebranded Samsung panels, since they went out of business and are only a brand name now), and it seems to scale very good for its resolution since I cant complain in any instance where I thought I was missing a detail or pixels were being dropped. Its a much better buy than some of these true 1080p displays for twice the price.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: somecreepyoldguy
The 42 inch Akai at local Sams Clubs seems like a much better deal to me.
1024x1024 res which is a little strange (square res at 16:9 shape).
It takes a 1080p signal but it doesn't advertise it.
Only 999.99

Gears of war is noticebly better moving from 720p -> 1080i -> 1080p.

One of you mentioned that 1920x1080p was somehow a higher reolution than 1920x1080i
which you can see that its not only displayed faster for better movement.

The model at Sams Club lacks a tuner but if you have satellite or cable there is no need for one anyways, two progressive component inputs, hdmi, and vga, and two rca and 1 s-video if i remeber right

Dark colors are off a little bit but its probably my settings (Supposedly Akai is rebranded Samsung panels, since they went out of business and are only a brand name now), and it seems to scale very good for its resolution since I cant complain in any instance where I thought I was missing a detail or pixels were being dropped. Its a much better buy than some of these true 1080p displays for twice the price.

The Akai is not a rebranded Samsung panel because only 1 manufacturer makes such terrible panels: Hitachi/Fujitsu.

The 1024 x 1024 panels are ALiS or eALiS: Alternating Light Source. In other words, interlaced.

http://www.gotapex.com/images/apex/theater/alis.jpg

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: cparent

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: nguyendot1
This TV is 720/768p not 1080i. The physical resolution is 1366x768. It will up/down convert everything to 768p.

Then why does it say this:
"Supported DTV Resolutions: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i"

it means it will convert it. 1080i resolution is 1920 × 1080

But that is true of every plasma TV that is 1366x768... My 43" Pioneer Elite does the same thing, and it looks amazing.

Most plasma TV's are 1080i, and nearly all Plasmas that are 50" and below are 1366x768.

Very few plasma TV's will do 1080p, and those that do so are $7000 or more.

Which Pioneer Elite 43" is 1366 x 768 native?

Last year's PDP-4350SX that was built specifically for Tweeter for their exclusive 2005 Black Friday deal. It was basically the same thing as the Elite model, just without the separate media-box.

It's a fun TV

The Elite 43" is 1024 x 768 native.

doh, I just looked it up and you're right.. I have no idea why I was thinking 1366x768... so mine is even lower res than the one in the OP and mine still looks sick, so I don't see a problem with the systems that have 1366x768... that's even better than mine!

I know that true 1080p is 1920x1080, but 1080i on the reduced resolutions looks good enough to me!

 

[Pr0d1gy]

THIS 56" 1080p JVD HD-ILA was for sale in my local Best Buy for 1799 before Christmas Day. Please do not fool people into thinking $1800 for a 1080i is a good deal when you obviously do not shop around.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy
THIS 56" 1080p JVD HD-ILA was for sale in my local Best Buy for 1799 before Christmas Day. Please do not fool people into thinking $1800 for a 1080i is a good deal when you obviously do not shop around.

This is a Plasma TV, not a rear-projection unit. Do you know the difference?

There are very few plasma TV's that will do 1080p, and the cheapest of those is $7000-$8000. (Hopefully we'll see a few more 50" 1080p models announced next week at CES2007!) When the 1080p Plasma TV's get to $3000, I'm going to snag one myself!... Right around two more years or so.

Alot of people still prefer 1080i-capable Plasma TV's versus everything else available... including me...

 

[somecreepyoldguy]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: somecreepyoldguy
The 42 inch Akai at local Sams Clubs seems like a much better deal to me.
1024x1024 res which is a little strange (square res at 16:9 shape).
It takes a 1080p signal but it doesn't advertise it.
Only 999.99

Gears of war is noticebly better moving from 720p -> 1080i -> 1080p.

One of you mentioned that 1920x1080p was somehow a higher reolution than 1920x1080i
which you can see that its not only displayed faster for better movement.

The model at Sams Club lacks a tuner but if you have satellite or cable there is no need for one anyways, two progressive component inputs, hdmi, and vga, and two rca and 1 s-video if i remeber right

Dark colors are off a little bit but its probably my settings (Supposedly Akai is rebranded Samsung panels, since they went out of business and are only a brand name now), and it seems to scale very good for its resolution since I cant complain in any instance where I thought I was missing a detail or pixels were being dropped. Its a much better buy than some of these true 1080p displays for twice the price.

The Akai is not a rebranded Samsung panel because only 1 manufacturer makes such terrible panels: Hitachi/Fujitsu.

The 1024 x 1024 panels are ALiS or eALiS: Alternating Light Source. In other words, interlaced.

http://www.gotapex.com/images/apex/theater/alis.jpg

Ya but dont mention that they take up half the power last longer and are pretty much seamless. oh and that it does interlaced at 60 times a second instead of progressive at 30 times a second (kinda like dual ddr400 versus ddr 800 You get the same performance). you aren't going to see a difference unless you have LASER EYES! You have a strange vendetta, you may be a robot.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: somecreepyoldguy

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: somecreepyoldguy
The 42 inch Akai at local Sams Clubs seems like a much better deal to me.
1024x1024 res which is a little strange (square res at 16:9 shape).
It takes a 1080p signal but it doesn't advertise it.
Only 999.99

Gears of war is noticebly better moving from 720p -> 1080i -> 1080p.

One of you mentioned that 1920x1080p was somehow a higher reolution than 1920x1080i
which you can see that its not only displayed faster for better movement.

The model at Sams Club lacks a tuner but if you have satellite or cable there is no need for one anyways, two progressive component inputs, hdmi, and vga, and two rca and 1 s-video if i remeber right

Dark colors are off a little bit but its probably my settings (Supposedly Akai is rebranded Samsung panels, since they went out of business and are only a brand name now), and it seems to scale very good for its resolution since I cant complain in any instance where I thought I was missing a detail or pixels were being dropped. Its a much better buy than some of these true 1080p displays for twice the price.

The Akai is not a rebranded Samsung panel because only 1 manufacturer makes such terrible panels: Hitachi/Fujitsu.

The 1024 x 1024 panels are ALiS or eALiS: Alternating Light Source. In other words, interlaced.

http://www.gotapex.com/images/apex/theater/alis.jpg

Ya but dont mention that they take up half the power last longer and are pretty much seamless. oh and that it does interlaced at 60 times a second instead of progressive at 30 times a second (kinda like dual ddr400 versus ddr 800 You get the same performance). you aren't going to see a difference unless you have LASER EYES! You have a strange vendetta, you may be a robot.

The latest generation of plasmas use roughly the same amount of power with the possible exception of Panasonic (which uses less).

ALL current gen 1st tier plasmas have a 60,000 hour halflife rating, so that's no difference.

60hz is native for all progressive plasmas, not 30hz.

You may want to check your facts before you post, preferably with a robot. Robots have virtually unlimited warehousing capabilities for near useless information.