Walmart Shopper Tackled For Not Showing Receipt

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StageLeft

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I have had two "events" when refusing to show a receit on the way out of walmart. I now just show it to them because I cannot be bothered to fight it and really I know that if i don't want to show it i can just not go in there.
 

daniel1113

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I'm not arguing the legality of it.

I'm questioning why people go out of their way to cause drama, when this is occasionally the result. This entire situation was needless. Even with a line, what would it have taken, 60 seconds to show his receipt?

You're right, it was needless. Neither Wal-Mart nor the tackling shopper needed to react like complete dipshits.
 
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which has what to do with being tackled exactly?

oh right nothing.

Because fat turds are probably clumsy fools and when tackled fall over and fall awkwardly? But of course very often the same fat people are the same obnoxious type that think they deserve their own way through life and so he just strolls through the Walmart exit thinking "too bad fools." Well, if you're a douchebag, expect to deserve some sort of similar treatment.

Just like if you go and act like a douche in front of anyone on the streets, I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the ghetto shot you... Sure it's tragic, but you're an idiot for doing that to begin with. Everyone knows this.
 
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"At this point running towards my car on the other side of the parking lot, one of them TACKLES ME"

it sounds like the people were running after the guy, not that he was running.

That's what I understand it as. It's a bit confusing the way he worded it though.
 

QuantumPion

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If in fact the guy in the story was running to his car to avoid showing the receipt, then he has no chance of winning any lawsuit and is a douche.

But the guy that tackled him is just as much a douche to get into other people's business. If he wanted to be a good Samaritan, he should have just written down the guy's license plate number and given it to the cops. You never get directly involved in an incident precisely for this reason - you never know the whole story or situation.
 

daniel1113

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If in fact the guy in the story was running to his car to avoid showing the receipt, then he has no chance of winning any lawsuit and is a douche.

I didn't realize that seeing someone running towards a car was considered an affirmative defense for battery. Do you have any other legal knowledge you'd like to share?
 

Adrenaline

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I didn't realize that seeing someone running towards a car was considered an affirmative defense for battery. Do you have any other legal knowledge you'd like to share?

Now imagine if the guy going to his car carried a gun and had shot this fool. Just take the license plate down.
 

UpgradeFailure

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I didn't realize that seeing someone running towards a car was considered an affirmative defense for battery. Do you have any other legal knowledge you'd like to share?

Agreed. Also if a mob of crazy walmart fools were chasing me down I would also run to my car so I could call the police.

Also, what if the guy was deaf and they were yelling at him to show his receipt and he just didn't hear? I would have called the police instantly.
 

shortylickens

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Because fat turds are probably clumsy fools and when tackled fall over and fall awkwardly? But of course very often the same fat people are the same obnoxious type that think they deserve their own way through life and so he just strolls through the Walmart exit thinking "too bad fools." Well, if you're a douchebag, expect to deserve some sort of similar treatment.

Just like if you go and act like a douche in front of anyone on the streets, I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the ghetto shot you... Sure it's tragic, but you're an idiot for doing that to begin with. Everyone knows this.
This is a problem I have with dumb suburbanites.
NEW ISSUE!
Too many people born and raised in the relatively safe suburbs dont appreciate just how dangerous the world can be sometimes. They dont realize if you fuck with the wrong person it could easily cost you your life.

Teens in particular seem to have this problem. I have stories I could tell, but I think most folks know what I am talking about.
 

OutHouse

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Jun 5, 2000
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my response if something like that happened to me would have been.

OHHHH MY BACK!!!! call an ambulance!!!! OMG I CANT MOVE!!!!
 

SKORPI0

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The Wal-Mart Supercenter (Orland Hills, IL) nearby never checked for receipts at the exit. No more greeters at the 2 entrances too. The Costco and Best Buy still does.

It's irritating at best when there is a long line of people at the registers and then at the exit. I show my receipt all the time, but I don't see why the company sees the need for this. Maybe we'll more stories like this during Black Friday and Christmas Season.
 
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dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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When I lived in Georgia I was not far from that store.

It pisses me off to have to wait in line to leave the store after spending time in line at the checkout.

I do as much online shopping as possible now to avoid having to go these draconian fucking stores.
 

rivan

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You're right, it was needless. Neither Wal-Mart nor the tackling shopper needed to react like complete dipshits.

Here's where we disagree. I see the dipshit chain starting with the guy who refuses to spend an extra 60 seconds to avoid this.

High theft item? Check. High theft store? Check. Shady step 1: Refusal to comply with something VERY simple? Check. Shady step 2: RUNNING when pursued. Check.

There were several points where the guy could have saved himself all this trouble.

Now, I'll agree WalMart and the 'good samaritan' were totally out of line, but it certainly didn't start with them. People like this are the equivalent of your little brother, when told by your parents not to touch you, wiggles his fingertip two inches from your eyeball, saying loudly "I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU, I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU!!!."

Following the rules? Sure. Annoying and deserves anything he gets? Absolutely.
 

rockyct

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I didn't realize that seeing someone running towards a car was considered an affirmative defense for battery. Do you have any other legal knowledge you'd like to share?

Plus "I make my way to my car" doesn't at all seem like he is running to his car. Only the idiot who tackled him ran to the car. Yes, it's a little confusing but people need to use better reading comprehension skills before flaming.
 

sourceninja

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If a guy tackled me and didn't get maced/shot/stabbed then he would for sure get sued. However, I don't run from those receipt checkers. I simply look at them, decline to show them my receipt and start walking. If they persist, I tell them that any attempt to keep me in their store is holding someone against their will illegally and that I will sue them. I then say that if they feel I have stolen from them they are free to call the police and if they police can reach me before I go on my way I will gladly deal with that officer.

Then I start walking again. I've never been stopped. I did have a few best buy employees try to stop me once for stealing (not receipt checking related). I was wearing my 'big' gun that day (Walther P99 .40) and apparently it was sticking out making it look like I had something tucked in my pants. I had spent a lot of time in the video game area looking at games but didn't find anything I desired. So naturally they thought I had stuffed a game down my pants.

I told the 2 guys that approached me that I did not steal anything. They pointed to my back and I told them I was not about to brandish in their store and if they doubted me to call the police to search me, but I was not staying. I was again calm and polite. As I started back out one of them started to reach for me but his co-worker told him not to do anything. I guess the police were called before hand this time as they stopped me in the parking lot as I was getting in my car. I showed them my permit and my pistol, they searched me, found nothing (of course) and then let me go on my way.

There is no reason to be a dick about protecting your rights. If you are going to protect them, then do it calmly, pleasantly, and explain yourself. In that second case I was partially at fault for allowing my firearm to print. I just make sure to explain my reasoning in a calm tone and then move on to what I'm doing. If they try to stop me, then I will take action such as calling the police and getting a police report. I also realize this may get me banned from stores. I have no problem with that at all.
 

SunSamurai

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LOL@ the idiots that cant differentiate between store policies, LAWS, and what usurps what.
 
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waggy

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dude should have called the cops immediately and pressed charges against the person who tackled him.

this.

he does not have to show the reciept. he was not at sams club, or another store where you are a member.

this is walmart. he has the right ot walk by them and refuse to stop. they do not have the right to tackle him or even take the items.


i would be on the phone before i went back inside and had a few peopel arrested.
 

KeithTalent

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I simply look at them, decline to show them my receipt and start walking. If they persist, I tell them that any attempt to keep me in their store is holding someone against their will illegally and that I will sue them. I then say that if they feel I have stolen from them they are free to call the police and if they police can reach me before I go on my way I will gladly deal with that officer.

Why do people have to be such jackasses these days. How hard is it for someone to keep their receipt out and show it to them, they are just doing their job and the company is trying to prevent theft of goods.

By making a production, telling them to call the police, etc. you have likely spent more time doing that than it would have taken to just show the receipt.

I guess it's just some sort of power trip or something?. I don't know.

KT
 

whylaff

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Did the anti theft alarm go off? GA law is rather clear that, assuming the in-store notice of such a device is posted correctly, the activation of the device upon exciting constitutes a reasonable cause.
 

dainthomas

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which has what to do with being tackled exactly?

oh right nothing.

If he was in better shape, he could've outrun whoever was chasing him.

I never show my receipt if I have to wait more than 30 seconds either. I figure I'm doing it as a courtesy, so if you can't expedite the process I'm not gonna hang out all day waiting for you.
 

sourceninja

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Why do people have to be such jackasses these days. How hard is it for someone to keep their receipt out and show it to them, they are just doing their job and the company is trying to prevent theft of goods.

By making a production, telling them to call the police, etc. you have likely spent more time doing that than it would have taken to just show the receipt.

I guess it's just some sort of power trip or something?. I don't know.

KT

It's not about making a scene. It's not about being quick. It's not about them doing their job. It's about my rights.

I'm not going to be treated as a thief. If they think I am a thief then they can feel free to use their rights to keep me off their property. It's not my problem if they can't control theft. Maybe they should hire police officers to guard the store, or perhaps not open stores in high risk areas? It's funny how the walmart in the good side of town doesn't check receipts. I spent 3000.00 at the apple store in my mall, I didn't get checked for a receipt at the door. Yet I buy a couple of video games that required some kid to unlock a glass case and suddenly I might be a thief? Bullshit.

I protect my rights. I find my rights to be very important to me. We lose our rights more and more every single day because we don't care. Who cares if they can tap my phone with out a warrant, I'm not breaking any laws and it might stop terrorism. Who cares if just anybody can search my belongings for any reason. If you won't protect your rights, then you don't deserve them.

By making it more time consuming and costly to deal with me I force them to make a decision. They can waste their time on me, or implement real loss prevention. If everyone did this, it would waste so much time they would abandon the idea.

I learned this as a teenager when I was charged with a crime because I tried to help the police. My friend sold me some computer equipment and a few months later was arrested for thieft from the computer store he worked at. At that point I was worried my equipment was stolen so I called the police. They took my stuff, then brought me in to 'give a statement'. Being young I didn't know my rights and actually spent time in a room with an officer 'just helping clear up a few things'. Next thing I know I'm told "I think you knew you were buying stolen goods". I learned right there I should of declined to be questioned and in fact probably should of not even called the police in the first place.

From that day I learned that no matter how trivial, it is important to protect your rights. Sure it makes people's jobs harder, it annoys a lot of people, and maybe to you I'm doing it to make a scene or get attention. But I have a right to keep that stuff to myself. Maybe I don't want the lady to know that I just bought a wii fit to do yoga or some silly kids game. Maybe the cashier rang up the receipt wrong and it saved me money. I'd rather find out at home then in the store where I might be accused of stealing. Or hell, maybe (and this is the real reason) I just don't want to. It's my right.

Then have their rights. Then can call the police. They can ban me from their store (I can't eat at buffalo wild wings because I carry a pistol for example). They could even have a employee walk the product up to the cashier and then watch the transaction and then follow me to the door. But they can't force me to show them my property or receipt.
 
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