Walmart...why do we keep doing this to ourselves?

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Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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I don't see the travesty. No one is forcing them to work at Walmart. If you work part time at an entry level job you have to expect to make less than $25,000.

I guess you didn't read the article completely.

Since the workforce in that statistic includes some store managers and leaves out all of the retailer's part-time employees, it stands to reason that most of Walmart's store workers would be earning under $25,000 per year.
 

Dirigible

Diamond Member
Apr 26, 2006
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I never go to Walmart. Why the fuck would I? Why, OP, do you think everyone goes there?
 

Childs

Lifer
Jul 9, 2000
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How much can a blu ray player from Walmart cost...$50? Just let it go. You shouldnt be returning gifts anyways.
 

Humpy

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Mar 3, 2011
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You sound like someone who can't read for shit. And whose parents did a shit job making sure you learned grammatical skills.

If you instituted a policy of not being an illogical retard, perhaps I would be more likely to listen to your highly ironic griping about my griping.

I wouldn't expect an basement-dwelling internet retard (such attacks are almost always uttered by those who actually fit the description more than the target) like yourself to understand an attempt at having some tact and not wishing to hurt the feelings of or be deceitful to a family member.


You should have just opened with this.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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My big gripe with Walmart used to be the slow and long checkout lines. But couple of years ago they installed self checkout lines so I don't mind shopping there now.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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I hate Walmart, always insanely busy, takes forever just to get one damn thing. Plus the most ghetto of the ghetto people shop there, kids running around, people arguing, people that smell horrible, just go to "peopleofwalmart.com" to see what I'm talking about. Also, you don't hear about people getting shot or stabbed at somewhere like Target, it's always at Walmart. I gladly pay more to not shop at that craphole.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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I can't do Walmart.

Every single time - I've felt like a complete moron because the stores are an absolute mess in terms of layout, and their employees? Wait, they get paid? You wouldn't know it from interacting with them, they'd rather blow you off than do anything.

At least at Target - if I have so much as a confused face and an employee passes me, they almost always immediately ask if I need any assistance or have found what I'm looking for.
And really, the price differences aren't much. More importantly, the peace of mind is incredibly valuable.
I've also never had a problem interacting with Target's CS team for returns or anything.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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How much can a blu ray player from Walmart cost...$50? Just let it go. You shouldnt be returning gifts anyways.

Would you rather a gift so unused for eternity?

Gifts shouldn't be thrown away or wasted, either. Do them a favor by sticking to a similar type of product you want. If I don't need and can't use a second blu-ray player, that's either getting re-gifted or returned. Ideally, if I could use some kind of media gadget around the same price, I'd go get that.
I can almost always use some kind of media gadget that I don't already have, so I should be able to find something.
Even if I only use it twice, that's twice as much use compared to what I'd get out of the item it replaces.
 

bbhaag

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Jul 2, 2011
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I have to admit we shop at Walmart. Some of their prices are just to good to pass up. We're married with two kids and we make under 60k a year. Hard not to look at Walmart.:$
We shop at Kroger to because they usually have some great deals on the necessities and every once in awhile we hit up the local butcher.
 

Childs

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Would you rather a gift so unused for eternity?

Gifts shouldn't be thrown away or wasted, either. Do them a favor by sticking to a similar type of product you want. If I don't need and can't use a second blu-ray player, that's either getting re-gifted or returned. Ideally, if I could use some kind of media gadget around the same price, I'd go get that.
I can almost always use some kind of media gadget that I don't already have, so I should be able to find something.
Even if I only use it twice, that's twice as much use compared to what I'd get out of the item it replaces.

Most of the birthday and Xmas gifts I get are stuff I dont really want. More than likely if I wanted something I would have bought it for myself when I first wanted it. Something like a blu ray player you can give to someone who might want one, donate it, etc. Its different if there is a gift receipt in the box, but I wouldnt get worked up trying to return something that was a gift. Kinda violates the spirit of getting and giving gifts. Even if I get a gift receipt and its clothing I dont like, I will at least wear it once in the presence of the person that gave it to me.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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They have the best prices so I shop there, I'd really have to hate a name enough to make me refuse to go there and save a ton of money. Since I save hundreds of $$$ a month there I can't say too much bad about them. ZOMG they have a bunch of fat rednecks shopping there! That might bother me except I don't go to socialize or find a GF. Outside of that their meat department SUCKS, but there's not a single chain I'd ever buy meat from unless I was in an absolute pinch.
 
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88keys

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Aug 24, 2012
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WalMart has turned poor customer service into a business model. They would rather have a few lanes open with long lines because its more efficient to have 5 cashiers constantly busy than have have 8 cashiers with brief idle moments. They would rather let shelves go completely empty before restocking because that cuts down the time that would be spent rotating stock. They do this because they know that people will shop at Wal Mart regardless of how long they have to wait in line or how difficult it is to get everything you need because they can save a few dollars in the end.
It's just like how everybody bitched about Walmart opening on Thanksgiving but it seems a solid chunk of them didn't have any problem cutting their Thanksgiving short to go get some cheap shit for Xmas. If you shop at Wal Mart and complain and complain about how horrible they are or how poorly they treat employees then you are a tool. Plain and simple.
If you don't like the way a company does business, vote with your wallet, and take your business elsewhere.
 

jumpncrash

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walmart hater crew checking in, I very rarely go, and when I do it's usually an unpleaseant experience
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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I hate Walmart, but go occasionally because they're close. I can walk to one from my house. The only reason is there's a bit of everything in the store. The prices aren't that great, and the experience is sub-par. I'd never go to one if I had to put in as much effort as I did other stores.
 

OverVolt

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Aug 31, 2002
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Something like 50-70 cents of every dollar spent on gifts is wasted.

For whatever reason I go to wal-mart now because I can't honestly think of where to buy stuff anymore. There used to be so many small shops that I did frequent say, in the 90's. They were quality shops. All the little stores of local legend

http://www.yelp.com/biz/baynesville-electronics-towson

That is one of them around here that is still open. I always pass all these little stores that -used- to be open when I was younger.

http://www.nolimitbmore.com/

That place however is still rocking some good business go figure. Look at those cars in the gallery.

Numerous small computer stores are gone, card trading stores, coin stores, paintball gun stores, paintball fields, golf ranges, lots of places I used to know as places where they taught swimming/piano, etc. All also gone. I guess people have fewer kids now? I don't know. Pretty crazy. I don't even know if younger kids really get alot of experience swimming like we used to as kids. Half the club pools/parks I remember look pretty rundown too.

Other than big box stores there is almost nothing I can think of anymore. Even the diversity in bookstores is closing down with borders going out of business. Most malls have that "fragrance de out of business" smell. I guess its the constant smell of paint and cardboard as stores move in and out going out of business over and over each store that follows it is a little more shody than the previous one. Take a turn down the wrong hall at the mall and phew smells like out of business stores, stuffy cardboard, half-applied paint, etc etc. Its almost like I can walk through the half-empty mall when compared to how I remember it in the 90's and I can practically feel everyone just sitting at home on facebook, amazon and shit instead.

I guess I'm calling bullshit on the "I go to small stores screw you guys" because the malls and small stores near me anyway seem mostly shuddered. There are like 3-4 stores I can think of that fill cool niche markets. MovieStop is one of them, a total gem of a store. Really good classic movies used for cheap, keep them forever. The car place (of course) and the most legendary electronics hobby store around here is like, the last one standing.

I do know my local shops, none of them carry everyday items.
 
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mizzou

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Jan 2, 2008
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it is a little food stampy there but they stock well and have a good selection. the market sort of sucks on veggies.

walmart usually has an aggressive and succesful loss prevention team. it may not look like the 80year old greeter is doing much to mark incoming merchandise, but the eyes in the sky will take notice.

target lately has been great on price with redcard and other rewards....but they tend to have limited stock and focus more on clothes and home decore
 

yinan

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Jan 12, 2007
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I think I would rather die than go to Walmart. The place just reeks of pure evil. All they sell is crap that will break on you in five minutes so you have to buy another one. I will much rather shop at a store that sells quality merchandise, and doesn't require their employees to be on Welfare.

I cannot wait until the day they no longer exist.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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I guess I'm calling bullshit on the "I go to small stores screw you guys" because the malls and small stores near me anyway seem mostly shuddered. There are like 3-4 stores I can think of that fill cool niche markets. MovieStop is one of them, a total gem of a store. Really good classic movies used for cheap, keep them forever. The car place (of course) and the most legendary electronics hobby store around here is like, the last one standing.

I do know my local shops, none of them carry everyday items.

The problem is malls are filled with stores selling the same shit, and they sit next to other malls selling the same shit as them. They're a blight on the landscape, and you could remove 75% of them with no perceptible loss.
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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I'm indifferent to Walmart.

Oh, and OP, you better get your ass moving because Best Buy only allows returns up to January 15th for anything purchased during Christmas. Their normal policy is 15 days, regardless.
 

skimple

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Feb 4, 2005
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I guess you didn't read the article completely.

I guess that you didn't read the article either:

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the median pay for retail sales people at large in the U.S. economy was $20,990 in 2010, or $10.09 per hour."

So average retail workers wages at Walmart weren't 18% above the median for the whole country? I fail to see the outrage.

Except:

"Whether it's two-thirds or one-half probably wouldn't mean much to the company's critics assembled on Wednesday..."

Exactly - facts and statistics don't mean much to people that love to hate Walmart.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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I don't shop there for a couple reasons - it's dirty, messy, the parking lot is poorly laid out which makes it more risky (lots of fender benders there), it's farther away than the supermarket (adds 20 min round trip) and the checkout takes forever.

Might be a little cheaper, but since my credit card gives 6% cash back on groceries at the supermarket and Walmart doesn't count as a supermarket, I rationalize that would make it pretty close to even on price.

I don't buy a lot of stuff beyond groceries, so I would not drive that far for one or two items when just about every other big box store + big mall are closer. Shopping there is an unpleasant experience. There are two Target stores closer and it's a night and day comparison. Target is clean, organized and speedy.
 

JManInPhoenix

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Sep 25, 2013
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I hate Walmart but we still go there about twice a month for toiletries, cleaning supplies, paper towels, etc...
 
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