Wanted: A driver fix for the HORRIBLE Nvidia shadow IQ in Farcry...

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Just an update - I was playing more FarCry earlier (on mp_radio) and I was getting tons of random slowdowns to under 10fps, other times it would be right back at 60. It was unplayable, really (it was under 10 a lot more than it was close to 60). When I set it back to the default of 2, framerates jumped back up to 60 solid. So, unless something else in my config has changed, I think that shadow setting isn't a real fix...

lol... now we need 2 threads with duplicate posts on this?

I didn't create the second thread, I just wanted to post my experiences there too so that people coming in and looking for a "fix" would be aware that there could be large performance penalties associated with changing that setting... That's all.
 

dug777

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I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry

 

orangat

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Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry


Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: orangat
Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry


Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.

Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?
 

crazydingo

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?
Some people (like me) dont have other cards to compare, I thought it wasnt a bug until this was brought up .. FarCry is an excellent game but not my favorite. So while it doesnt matter much to me (& you), it might to others.
 

orangat

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: orangat
Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry
Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.

Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?

I don't have so much spare time and money to buy and compare different cards. Its interesting that you go back and forth between ATI/Nvidia but haven't even noticed it. There are none too blind as those to refuse to see I guess.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: orangat
I don't have so much spare time and money to buy and compare different cards. Its interesting that you go back and forth between ATI/Nvidia but haven't even noticed it. There are none too blind as those to refuse to see I guess.

if it's so noticeable, why is it that the attention a few ppl have given this on these forums is the only place it's an issue?

even on ubisoft's far cry tech forum there's only a vague reference to it... so coming up on 2yrs this game has been released and it's so noticeable it's only being discussed now, and basically only on the at forums?

seems to me those that have either never noticed it or are indifferent to it is the vast majority.

 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: orangat
I don't have so much spare time and money to buy and compare different cards. Its interesting that you go back and forth between ATI/Nvidia but haven't even noticed it. There are none too blind as those to refuse to see I guess.

if it's so noticeable, why is it that the attention a few ppl have given this on these forums is the only place it's an issue?

even on ubisoft's far cry tech forum there's only a vague reference to it... so coming up on 2yrs this game has been released and it's so noticeable it's only being discussed now, and basically only on the at forums?

seems to me those that have either never noticed it or are indifferent to it is the vast majority.

QFT
 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: orangat
I don't have so much spare time and money to buy and compare different cards. Its interesting that you go back and forth between ATI/Nvidia but haven't even noticed it. There are none too blind as those to refuse to see I guess.

if it's so noticeable, why is it that the attention a few ppl have given this on these forums is the only place it's an issue?

even on ubisoft's far cry tech forum there's only a vague reference to it... so coming up on 2yrs this game has been released and it's so noticeable it's only being discussed now, and basically only on the at forums?

seems to me those that have either never noticed it or are indifferent to it is the vast majority.

QFT

Is it so wrong the we discuss this shadow issue and try to figure out how to remedy it. Rollo, you managed to keep out of this thread for so long and all of a sudden you grace us with your presence and opinion. I think you should stick to your bourbon and making your parody threads, that way if I want to read drunken ramblings i can go read them in their appropriate spot.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: orangat
Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry


Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.

Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?

Are you still blathering on about Sacrifice? Runs GREAT on my 9800xt !
:disgust:

no missing trestures, no gfx corruption, no slowdowns . . . no game patches applied . . . Cats from September . . . guess it works fine on r300 and up

. . . and no blocky shadows

:roll:


 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: orangat
Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry


Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.

Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?

Are you still blathering on about Sacrifice? Runs GREAT on my 9800xt !
:disgust:

no missing trestures, no gfx corruption, no slowdowns . . . no game patches applied . . . Cats from September . . . guess it works fine on r300 and up

. . . and no blocky shadows

:roll:


Basically, he is still just blathering in general
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: lavaheadache
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: orangat
Originally posted by: dug777
I'm glad some people can see the difference between a 5 year old game most of us haven't heard of, and perhaps the most commonly benchmarked, arguably best looking, and impressive technological showcase (that has a new patch enabling AA & HDR just around the corner afaik) that is Farcry


Exactly. And its not just Farcry. Its the same with WOW and UT2004. Fanboys will try to resort to red herrings to minimize the issue.

Fanboys of other teams will try to maximize an issue that apparently no one has really noticed for a year and a half?

Are you still blathering on about Sacrifice? Runs GREAT on my 9800xt !
:disgust:

no missing trestures, no gfx corruption, no slowdowns . . . no game patches applied . . . Cats from September . . . guess it works fine on r300 and up

. . . and no blocky shadows

:roll:


Basically, he is still just blathering in general

you mean in Video . . . he keeps a low-profile in General



LOL


that was sure a silly parody thread Rollo started . . . this particular fanboy can't STAND to hear ANYthing negative about his beloved GTX . . .

i was SO glad to have a copy of Sacrifice just to help silence the nonsense
[amd i didn't even need to offer a goat] :Q



 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Basically, he is still just blathering in general

As I notice some of you are, about a trivial issue none of you even noticed for a year and a half?

Funny how that works.

As far as Apoppins "tests" go, I'll still take Bens word for it over his.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Basically, he is still just blathering in general

As I notice some of you are, about a trivial issue none of you even noticed for a year and a half?

Funny how that works.

As far as Apoppins "tests" go, I'll still take Bens word for it over his.

Ben never returned in the hour or so before your thread got locked . . .

i doubt he played Sacrifice in the last 4 years . . .
. . . me . . . i just installed it and fired it up . . . runs perfectly on a 9800xt

so we sure can't take your word for much
:thumbsdown:
 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Basically, he is still just blathering in general

As I notice some of you are, about a trivial issue none of you even noticed for a year and a half?

Funny how that works.

As far as Apoppins "tests" go, I'll still take Bens word for it over his.

Actually I beat the game originally on my x800 pro, and havent played it too much since. I recently got into it again when I read dug's thread. Im not saying the shadows destroy the game for me, but merely gives me something to do and try to figure out since my recent motorcycle accident that has put me out of work for the last 3 weeks with a broken back and ribs.
 

Skyhanger

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Try dirver Forceware 79.11. It's the last in the 75 generation drivers and its reputed to fix the IQ problems

@ Guru3D:
"Fujitsu/Siemems released a new NVIDIA ForceWare driver. Originally it supported only two graphics cards though. We included a modified driver in this release (courtesy to Pieter from laptopVideo2go) to make the driver compatible with pretty much any GeForce Graphics card and laptop to date. These drivers are not WHQL (Microsoft tested and approved) certified though. But that really is not a big issue. Should you decide to give them a try then please let us know your experiences and results in our forums as we have a thread open on them right here."

Tell me if it fixes things... I've heard it fixes IQ as well as increases framerates
 

lavaheadache

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Rollo just to curb any of your potential thoughts, I am/was the proud owner of a 9800 pro, x800 pro, 6600 GT, 6800 GT, And now a current 7800GTX that I just installed last night! I will say that I am very happy with the Gtx especially since it helps heat my house at a whopping 82c. As you can see, I invest a lot of $$ into enjoying my games, and will buy whatever card I feel will help me enjoy my games to the fullest. I was happy with the 6800 until my recent purchase of a 2005fpw, which then warranted the 7800 purchase. With all that being said, let me b!tch about the Far Cry shadows! I think I deserve the right to. Go ahead, start your own thread about Sacrifice and how you want to buy an x1800. If you are gonna actually buy an X1800 you reserve the right to complain about any issues you have with the card.
 

johnnqq

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can anybody who has an opinion just stay out of the thread? if you spent the $ for the game, it should work flawlessly no questions asked.

well put lavaheadache
 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: johnnqq
can anybody who has an opinion just stay out of the thread? if you spent the $ for the game, it should work flawlessly no questions asked.

well put lavaheadache

Thanks
 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: Qbah
Seems iti s a new trend in the gaming business to make shadows look like sh!t. This is ridiculous! I was browsing the Guru3D forums, and look what I found...

http://img495.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dx98pf.jpg

It's a screenie from CoD2 in DX9. Blocky shadows FTW!

EDIT It's running on a 6800Ultra

At least they arent as bad as in Far Cry. Just imagine if the auto industry started pulling this BS and decided to start putting Sh1tty seats in your car!
 

dug777

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It would be nice if nvidia at least said 'we don't care, and we're not going to fix it', rather than just ignoring the problem
But i guess that would be admitting the problem existed

At least i've got exams for the next fortnight or so, i so i won't be playing any Farcry anyway
 

niggles

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At least if we lived 2000 years ago we could of stoned Nvidia to death... but then I guess they prboably wouldn't have been making computers then.
 

TGS

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Anyone still have BF1942 installed, and using an ATI card? I've noticed blocky shadows in there, I just attributed it with poor shadow work on DICE's part. Can anyone take a screenshot of that, particularly in vanilla BF or DC so I can compare? I'm running a 6800GT.


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