wanted to make this thread, maybe someone wont be as stupid as i was.

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yh125d

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Do people that want to use nicotine smoke cigarettes or chew on nicotene patches? Users wouldn't do these rediculous things if narcotics were widely available in forms that are easy to take correctly.

If you're suggesting fentanyl cigarettes for sale at convenience store, you done smoked yourself retarded
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
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Not sure what you mean by take correctly. The fentanyl patch is designed to provide a constant level of pain relief over a couple days. This is accomplished by sticking it on your skin and leaving it there.

What he did is not the correct way or reason to use a fentanyl patch.

Fentanyl is available for IV, transdermal (patch), and transmucosal (lozenge) administration. If you mean there should be a pill you can just swallow, there isn't - probably due to a high rate of alterations (aka metabolism) done to the fentanyl molecules by your liver, rendering them ineffective before they reach the rest of your body.

Not sure if you're trolling, but I meant that if Heroin and other opiates were widely (and legally) available, no one would be abusing fentanyl.
 

Beev

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Oh I'm sure some people would be. Simply because it's stronger. That's all they need to hear.

"A BETTER opiate?!?!"
 
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If you're suggesting fentanyl cigarettes for sale at convenience store, you done smoked yourself retarded
I think he's suggesting that if safe narcotics were as available as cigarettes then fewer people would resort to doing stupid shit like eating fentanyl patches. I tend to agree.

Edit - oh I see he already cleared this up. Fairly obvious what he meant in the first place.
 
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Oh I'm sure some people would be. Simply because it's stronger. That's all they need to hear.

"A BETTER opiate?!?!"
Some would, but certainly fewer. There will always be those Darwin Award candidates looking for the most powerful high possible. You won't stop that behaviour regardless of any law.
 
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You've got some shockingly poor decision-making ability, brah. Well, thanks for the cautionary tale. Hopefully other kids with similarly bright ideas might come upon it and this might cast sufficient doubt in their minds to pass on the really dangerous stuff. You get better and have someone beat some sense into that thick skull of yours. Pull it the fuck together, you stupid fuck.
 

JohnCU

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he can get all the professional help there is, but unless he wants to stop, it won't work.
 

Locut0s

Lifer
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Not sure if you're trolling, but I meant that if Heroin and other opiates were widely (and legally) available, no one would be abusing fentanyl.

It's probably easier to get heroin and other opiates NOW than it is to get fentanyl. Well maybe not but probably not all that different.

Edit: although I'm all for the legalization of all or most drugs.
 

SampSon

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Oh hey, it's zanejohnson and he's still alive.
You're a fucking moron.

I wish I had some of the older thread where I completely and consistently tear you new assholes all over your pasty little fabricated body.
 

Tangerines

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How much do you want to bet he doesn't learn anything from this experience and still keeps on using?

So sad.
 

guyver01

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How much do you want to bet he doesn't learn anything from this experience and still keeps on using?

So sad.

He hasnt . you can tell from his comments:

the addict in me things hey hey a strong opiate
...if i could just switch the addiction off i would.
i cant even tell you now that i would never use again.
i feel like i cheated death almost

those dont sound like the comments of someone who will never use again.
 

jeanclaude

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Not sure if you're trolling, but I meant that if Heroin and other opiates were widely (and legally) available, no one would be abusing fentanyl.

I highly doubt that. We are talking about addiction here. Not a recreational user who can opt in and out when he or she desires. When you lose self control do to addictive cravings and a need to get high - again and again - no amount of legalization is going to save you. When your supply of "legally obtained" heroin and other opiates runs out and you are low on cash you will look for substitutes - like Dad's chronic pain fentanyl patches.

People are conflating addicts with rational thinking people and they aren't.
 

jeanclaude

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Edit: although I'm all for the legalization of all or most drugs.


Curiosity - what would be your cut off point? I think current laws regarding marijuana possession and use are ridiculous, that is easy for me to rationalize, but harder more addictive stuff? Would you legalize heroin? crack? ecstasy? cocaine? How does one draw the line?
 

Locut0s

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Curiosity - what would be your cut off point? I think current laws regarding marijuana possession and use are ridiculous, that is easy for me to rationalize, but harder more addictive stuff? Would you legalize heroin? crack? ecstasy? cocaine? How does one draw the line?

Well those are indeed harder to decide. If I were to draw the line, and I might not do so, I would do it at pot and the psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms. There is no reason those should be illegal (yes they are not harmless but neither is beer). The opiates are more worrisome but I'm not 100% sold on the idea that they should be illegal. At the very least decriminalize possession of them. We don't need drug addicts in jail just for possession. The thing is people are going to get their hands on these drugs anyway and by legalizing them you have the potential to tax the drugs and have a far superior ability to monitor their national and international usage. The tax money could go to aggressive drug rehab programs (much more liberal and aggressive than what's out there now). The problem is that the current system demonizes all "illegal" drugs so that simple posesion and usage becomes something that is taboo and stigmatized. This is puritanical and just stupid. So long as the only one you are hurting is yourself (and yes possibly family and friends) it should not be illegal! This is not to say that heroin use should be seen as a normal day to day recreational activity but it should definitely be up to the individual if they wish to engaged in such risky behaviour and if they choose to do so they should not be punished unless they break common sense laws like breaking and entering, stealing, and DUIs.
 

pyonir

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Dec 18, 2001
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Oh hey, it's zanejohnson and he's still alive.
You're a fucking moron.

I wish I had some of the older thread where I completely and consistently tear you new assholes all over your pasty little fabricated body.

w00t! SampSon is around!
 
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