WaPo & ATP&N exposes pure hypocrisy of GOP base

[Amused]

Interesting statistic of the day:

In two Washington Post polls, taken after the chemical attacks in Syria in 2013 (approx 1.5k deaths) and in 2017 (approx. 100 deaths), respondents were asked if they supported or opposed a U.S. strike.

2013:
Ds: 38% supported
Rs: 22% supported

2017:
Ds: 37% supported
Rs: 86% supported

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...27d4e9b69b3a72331e6e/?utm_term=.99f83c253d96#

 

[pcgeek11]

Quite a supposition you have there.

 

[fskimospy]

Quite a supposition you have there.

What is your explanation for the difference?

 

[pcgeek11]

What is your explanation for the difference?

Four years.

 

[fskimospy]

Four years.

What happened in those four years that changed their minds so dramatically?

 

[ch33zw1z]

New regime, so now they're cool with it.

 

[fskimospy]

New regime, so now they're cool with it.

Shhhhh, I'm trying to see how elaborate an excuse I can get pcgeek to make so that he can ignore the obvious.

 

[pcgeek11]

What happened in those four years that changed their minds so dramatically?

Obama did nothing. Time for a change.

I personally think the US should have acted then and maybe things would be better now.
I do not think that the numbers posted in the OP mean anything like what is implied.

 

[fskimospy]

Obama did nothing. Time for a change.

I personally think the US should have acted then and maybe things would be better now.
I do not think that the numbers posted in the OP mean anything like what is implied.

Obama 'did nothing' in large part because of heavy Republican opposition to intervention in Syria, lol. That has mysteriously evaporated. I wonder why? Hahaha.

Are you attempting to claim that had we polled Republicans on intervention in Syria on November 1st, 2016 we would have seen results that were generally similar to this recent polling?

 

[pcgeek11]

Obama 'did nothing' in large part because of heavy Republican opposition to intervention in Syria, lol. That has mysteriously evaporated. I wonder why? Hahaha.

Are you attempting to claim that had we polled Republicans on intervention in Syria on November 1st, 2016 we would have seen results that were generally similar to this recent polling?

Bull Shit. Obama drew a line in the sand and then when Assad told him to get fucked he did nothing. It also depends on what you mean by the broad term "intervention". It has not evaporated. I am very much against inserting troops on the ground in Syria, and the ones that are there should be pulled out. Air strikes are quite another matter.

I'm not attempting to claim anything. Any answer I would make with respect to what would happen if a poll were taken in Nov 1st 2016 would be a guess nothing more and pointless as the OPs supposition.

 

[brycejones]

7 minutes for some sucker to take the bait, 16 more minutes to double down.

That might be a new record.

 

[pcgeek11]

7 minutes for some sucker to take the bait, 16 more minutes to double down.

That might be a new record.

Then enlighten us with your vast knowledge.

 

[fskimospy]

Bull Shit. Obama drew a line in the sand and then when Assad told him to get fucked he did nothing. It also depends on what you mean by the broad term "intervention". It has not evaporated. I am very much against inserting troops on the ground in Syria, and the ones that are there should be pulled out. Air strikes are quite another matter.

Have you somehow thrown the fact that congressional Republicans refused authorization for a strike down the memory hole?

I'm not attempting to claim anything. Any answer I would make with respect to what would happen if a poll were taken in Nov 1st 2016 would be a guess nothing more and pointless as the OPs supposition.

Of course you're attempting to claim something. You said that the reason for polling differences was the passage of time. Presumably that means if you think four years led to such a dramatic reversal by Republicans then 3.5 years would have led to results that were at least mostly similar, assuming that time was the governing factor. This is just common sense.

You are desperately trying to avoid the obvious reason for the reversal. Their tribe was pressuring them to oppose intervention when Obama wanted it and their tribe is pressuring them to support it now. This isn't brain surgery, it just requires no longer engaging in motivated reasoning.

 

[crashtech]

As long as it's pure hypocrisy, not the tainted kind.

 

[pcgeek11]

Have you somehow thrown the fact that congressional Republicans refused authorization for a strike down the memory hole?



Of course you're attempting to claim something. You said that the reason for polling differences was the passage of time. Presumably that means if you think four years led to such a dramatic reversal by Republicans then 3.5 years would have led to results that were at least mostly similar, assuming that time was the governing factor. This is just common sense.

You are desperately trying to avoid the obvious reason for the reversal. Their tribe was pressuring them to oppose intervention when Obama wanted it and their tribe is pressuring them to support it now. This isn't brain surgery, it just requires no longer engaging in motivated reasoning.

OK, If you say so it must be true.

 

[ivwshane]

Obama did nothing. Time for a change.

I personally think the US should have acted then and maybe things would be better now.
I do not think that the numbers posted in the OP mean anything like what is implied.

Fuck you, you god damn liar.

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Once Obama was denied by Congress is when your tune changed. You are such a partisan hack!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hey if the panderer in chief can sit and say Obama should have done something before even with his, what, 20 tweets saying Obama absolutely shouldn't have struck Syria why can't the base be "flexible".

 

[MomentsofSanity]

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Once Obama was denied by Congress is when your tune changed. You are such a partisan hack!

Oh shit.....

 

[brycejones]

Then enlighten us with your vast knowledge.

64 point swing and it has nothing do with the guy giving the order belonging to the correct party. While the difference for democrats is only one point.

Seems like one group is much more consistent on this issue regardless of who is office than the other group.

Perhaps if you haven't changed your opinion maybe you should back out of thread and let those who were part of at that 64 point swing explain thier rationale. You would appear to be the least able to explain why it was bad then but ok now because you haven't had that mental evolution happen.

 

[ch33zw1z]

As long as it's pure hypocrisy, not the tainted kind.

Made with real bits of Con's, so you know it's good.

 

[fskimospy]

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Once Obama was denied by Congress is when your tune changed. You are such a partisan hack!

Lol. Totally, completely owned.

I guess it makes sense that when he's attempting to make up lies about why GOP opinion has changed he's going to lie about his own position.

 

[brycejones]

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Once Obama was denied by Congress is when your tune changed. You are such a partisan hack!

Oh snap. I guess pcgeek would be an expert to speak on the hypocrisy. That is what I get for taking him at his word.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You would think that this moment would be perfect for internal retrospection. There won't be any, but it couldn't be a better moment.

 

[ivwshane]

Oh snap. I guess pcgeek would be an expert to speak on the hypocrisy. That is what I get for taking him at his word.

Lying and hypocrisy are par for the course for these guys. They are the reason our country isn't doing better and they are the reason why our government is dysfunctional.

 

[Amused]

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