WaPo & ATP&N exposes pure hypocrisy of GOP base

[JSt0rm]

I wonder if it will take another three days for him to come up with a new justification for why he isn't a liar in this thread.

I cant wait. @pcGeek make up something good. We are counting on you.

 

[Jhhnn]

Uh. That isn't what I said.

You just said more than you know, still haven't figured it out & may never.

 

[pcgeek11]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

Oh, and your childish name calling doesn't cast you in too good of a light either.

 

[brycejones]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

Oh, and your childish name calling doesn't cast you in too good of a light either.

LOL, come on man, you flat out lied on this thread. TWICE. The second time trying to cover up for your first one.

You should man up and own it. It would actually reflect well on you. Or at least better than your channelling of the Great Cheeto you are doing right now.

BTW you have yet to actually make your case why bombing after these gas attacks was ok but it was not a good idea while Obama was in office which you were specifically against at the time.

 

[ivwshane]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

Oh, and your childish name calling doesn't cast you in too good of a light either.

We are still waiting for you to tell us the difference (something that's been asked of you since page one).

I also find your bitching about name calling to be a little hypocritical when you did the same thing in that very post.

Lol

 

[Amused]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

Oh, and your childish name calling doesn't cast you in too good of a light either.

Why yes, I see a difference. Over one thousand died in the 2013 attacks. While around one hundred died in the most recent attacks. Obama was president in 2013 and Trump is president now.

So... What else?

 

[Maxima1]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

Oh, and your childish name calling doesn't cast you in too good of a light either.

LMAO! You're a lying sack of crap!!! The only difference you've even said on this forum after 2013 was establishing a "safe zone" for the refugees, which you obviously picked up from the media at the time, and was independent of Russian intervention. FYI, a better idea was just paying Arab countries to take the Syrians.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...he-2016-election.2454757/page-4#post-37843578

"I like the idea of NATO creating safe zones inside of Syria and place all of the refugees there. That way they are in their own country, can get support from the international community and are not exposed to hazardous journeys across many borders.

This is a much better plan than any I've seen so far."

BTW, your idea of safe zones is frankly retarded! You would need thousands of troops to safe guard it. Are you really that obtuse to think a "safe zone" is as simple as declaring one?

"I am very much against inserting troops on the ground in Syria, and the ones that are there should be pulled out. Air strikes are quite another matter."

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-hypocrisy-of-gop-base.2503887/#post-38845245

 

[UberNeuman]

"After dropping down the charts for three days, pcgeek is moving back up again with his repetitive single 'Lie, lie, I gotta lie!' Keep reaching for the stars, little fella and keep slamming that helmeted head into the nearest brick wall...."​

 

[pcgeek11]

We are still waiting for you to tell us the difference (something that's been asked of you since page one).

I also find your bitching about name calling to be a little hypocritical when you did the same thing in that very post.

Lol

Pointing out a fact is not hypocritical.

Before Russia got involved in Syria the problems in Syria was IMO an internal issue with Syria. Once Russia actually became an active participant the entire crisis changed as they are going against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist. The butchery of the civilian population is Syria was also increased by the Russian participation on Assads behalf.

 

[brycejones]

Pointing out a fact is not hypocritical.

Before Russia got involved in Syria the problems in Syria was IMO an internal issue with Syria. Once Russia actually became an active participant the entire crisis changed as they are going against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist. The butchery of the civilian population is Syria was also increased by the Russian participation on Assads behalf.

How do you figure (the bolded sentence)?

 

[Maxima1]

Pointing out a fact is not hypocritical.

Before Russia got involved in Syria the problems in Syria was IMO an internal issue with Syria. Once Russia actually became an active participant the entire crisis changed as they are going against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist. The butchery of the civilian population is Syria was also increased by the Russian participation on Assads behalf.

You're completely and utterly craven! This was in September 2015!

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/refugee-crisis.2445119/#post-37675717

"Myself as an American at this point don't care about them or their issues"

 

[Jaskalas]

The butchery of the Syrian population was originally increased by the United States arming terrorists.
Assad wouldn't have an enemy to fight if we didn't build them up first and attempt to use them for regime change.

Our involvement is the entire problem in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Russia stepped in to COMBAT US armed terrorists.

 

[brycejones]

The butchery of the Syrian population was originally increased by the United States arming terrorists.
Assad wouldn't have an enemy to fight if we didn't build them up first and attempt to use them for regime change.

Our involvement is the entire problem in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. Russia stepped in to COMBAT US armed terrorists.

Are you making this up as you go? We've actually trained very few fighters and Assad has an enemy to fight because there was an actual popular uprising. Our opportunity to intervene for a different outcome was at the very beginning but we didn't and the Islamists were able to coop the revolution soon after. Assad also started killing his citizens during peaceful protests.

Now I would agree by doing such a shitty job in Iraq we created the conditions for ISIS who was then able to exploit the conflict in Syria to expand their territory and make the conflict worse.

 

[Maxima1]

Now I would agree by doing such a shitty job in Iraq we created the conditions for ISIS who was then able to exploit the conflict in Syria to expand their territory and make the conflict worse.

ISIS sprang in Syria from the civil war there. I agree with you that the poster you're replying to is acting moronic. It's like blaming the US for North Korea when China is the enabler. Russia doesn't want Assad to go even if he's despicable because their interests would be hurt, even if the overall outcome is better with global considerations.

 

[Moonbeam]

The best we can do, I think, is to note the powerfully obvious fact that one person here, while he may be able to see in others how they view the world according to the attitude or emotional state in which they view it, can't see it when he is doing that. The only real difference between Syria yesterday and today is Obama and Trump and what pcgeek sees is a reflection of the difference in attitude he has toward these two men. The proper effect this should have on people who do not wish to be similarly biased unconsciously, is to not rush to judgment in forming ones own opinions. Who has not been programmed one way or another. Our biases exist at an unconscious level not reached easily by logical argument, especially when they are based on the notion that one's opinions defend THE ONE AND ONLY GOOD and one is up against ABSOLUTE EVIL.

 

[Jaskalas]

Are you making this up as you go?

I have been following that trail for years. WTF do you think we were doing in Benghazi? CIA weapons to Syrian terrorists.
Syria is thoroughly a war that the United States armed and fueled.

By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime.
^ A clear, concise, and factual left wing source. After Libya, Hillary Clinton's foreign policy ambitions were clear. One act of regime change by supporting proxy fighters wasn't enough. Syria was next. We'd form the opposition and crush another "dictator". Little did they imagine how ISIS would reshape the battle and recast our would-be heroes into genocidal freaks. Our Neocon's party in the Middle East went to !@#$ after that.

 

[brycejones]

I haven't read you sources yet. But putting "dictator" in quotes is just a wtf thing. Assad was and is a freaking dictator. The ass hat who ran Lybia was a dictator. But we are really veering off the rails of the thread subject at this point.

However pcgeek will gladly hold you beer at this point (you aren't a liar) just distracting from his incredibly lame attempts to throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks.

 

[fskimospy]

Pointing out a fact is not hypocritical.

Before Russia got involved in Syria the problems in Syria was IMO an internal issue with Syria. Once Russia actually became an active participant the entire crisis changed as they are going against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist. The butchery of the civilian population is Syria was also increased by the Russian participation on Assads behalf.

If before Russia became an active participant problems were internal then why did you claim earlier in this thread that you wish we would have gotten involved when it came up the first time, which was before Russia was an active participant?

Sometimes it's best to just cut your losses.

 

[zinfamous]

Pointing out a fact is not hypocritical.

Before Russia got involved in Syria the problems in Syria was IMO an internal issue with Syria. Once Russia actually became an active participant the entire crisis changed as they are going against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist. The butchery of the civilian population is Syria was also increased by the Russian participation on Assads behalf.

You either made this up or you are completely ignorant regarding Russia and their very serious animosity towards the very same terrorists that we fight. I'm going with you just lying to save skin for no reason.

 

[Meghan54]

You either made this up or you are completely ignorant regarding Russia and their very serious animosity towards the very same terrorists that we fight. I'm going with you just lying to save skin for no reason.

Both.....blind, willful ignorance and no clue.

 

[Jaskalas]

However pcgeek will gladly hold you beer at this point (you aren't a liar) just distracting from his incredibly lame attempts to throw crap at the wall and hope something sticks.

It's completely illogical for pcgeek to paint the situation as "against our interest and the interest of the other countries fighting the terrorist.". When we were the ones backing terrorists from the beginning, and Russia is there to save Assad from our proxy. The fall of the Syrian government would only help the terrorists we armed. If we were simply fighting terrorists, the interests of world powers would align in Syria.

But no, our intent and history of action is neither good nor noble. Clear back in 2011 America was actively participating in regime change for Syria. Lo and behold the horror that war has reaped upon the Syrian people. Our war. That is what I wanted to demonstrate in my reply to pcgeek. It is no distraction to raise question on the very core of his stated beliefs for the situation. He wants us to ride in and "save the day"... I think we've done far too much already.

 

[JSt0rm]

this thread put a mirror in front of a man and he refused to look.

 

[shortylickens]

You guys are pathetic and a joke. If you cannot see the difference in the situation between 2012 / 2013 and the present then I cannot help you.

That is not great logic. In fact quite poor.
Just admit you were either wrong then, or wrong now.
Its OK, we'll actually respect you more for it.

 

[JSt0rm]

That is not great logic. In fact quite poor.
Just admit you were either wrong then, or wrong now.
Its OK, we'll actually respect you more for it.

too late for him. He has no plasticity left in his brain. He is doomed to be stupid till he enters the void.

 

[manly]

You either made this up or you are completely ignorant regarding Russia and their very serious animosity towards the very same terrorists that we fight. I'm going with you just lying to save skin for no reason.

Especially ironic to use Russia as an excuse because just a few months ago, Donald Trump couldn't help but tell everyone how they were good guys and were helping Assad fight ISIS, and that we should throw in our lot with those two in Syria.