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repoman0

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I seriously doubt the GOP would rather have a democrat filling that seat than a pedophile so I'm going to predict that they won't withdraw the nomination.

Biting, but I am fairly certain this is a true statement for the majority of the GOP today. One more democratic senator would seriously jeopardize the 2017 GOP Tax Increase, more so than it is already. Since the Tax Increase is their one sole legislative goal, a pedophile who would vote for it is better for them than a democrat who will vote against it.
 

UNCjigga

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Wait if I'm coming across as defending Moore while Tajjy is saying he needs to withdraw, then something is seriously wrong with this forum. We've crossed a line, and I don't know if we can turn back!
 
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zinfamous

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Why? You already know he's going to say it's a conspiracy of the liberal media.

I don't think Hannity will even talk about it. I think they've gotten the memo that the Trump/republican bubble is best served if you simply don't feed them the news that you don't want them to see. When you already know that your viewers have limited their information sources to two or three distributors of the exact same news feed, you suffer no punishment because they aren't ever going to know that there are things that they frankly don't know.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm honestly wondering at this point if there is anything, at all, evangelical christians won't countenance in the pursuit of their political aims. Doesn't seem to be.

A lot depends on the Christians. Get into Moore territory and they seem not to be able to understand that God doesn't care about politics and someone like Moore is unchristlike. Go further north and the situation changes. There's a good number that don't recognize Trumpoids (that includes Moore) as being Christians.

Unfortunately too many fall on the bad side overall.
 

woolfe9998

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I don't think Hannity will even talk about it. I think they've gotten the memo that the Trump/republican bubble is best served if you simply don't feed them the news that you don't want them to see. When you already know that your viewers have limited their information sources to two or three distributors of the exact same news feed, you suffer no punishment because they aren't ever going to know that there are things that they frankly don't know.

Yes he might very well. It's how he handled the Tuesday election results, when he basically said, "Oh by the way, all those states the GOP lost in today were states won by Clinton last year. And now, on to discussing Trump in Japan..." then proceeded to not say another word about it.
 

K1052

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A lot depends on the Christians. Get into Moore territory and they seem not to be able to understand that God doesn't care about politics and someone like Moore is unchristlike. Go further north and the situation changes. There's a good number that don't recognize Trumpoids (that includes Moore) as being Christians.

Unfortunately too many fall on the bad side overall.

That's one reason I specified which vein of Christianity, I know they aren't a homogenous bloc.
 

fskimospy

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If it was unwanted the first time, why did she agree to meet him again? I'm not trying to rationalize the thought process of a 14 year old girl, but she may have unwittingly given some signal to Moore that she might be ready to engage the 2nd time. She shot him down again, and he drove her home.

That kind of behavior is extremely common among child victims.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Per the Bible, IIRC Joseph and Mary actually never had sex. Moore fondled this 14 year old. Maybe Joseph groped Mary a little after she gave him blue balls one too many times.

I still think she cucked him and then blamed god when she turned up pregnant.
 

woolfe9998

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That kind of behavior is extremely common among child victims.

To be more specific, it's because many 14 year old's don't feel comfortable saying "no" to an adult authority figure. It's why these advances should never be made, regardless of whether any kind of force or threat is being employed.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Another gem fro Zeigler

Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler: “There is nothing to see here. The allegations are that a man in his early 30s dated teenage girls. Even the Washington Post report says that he never had sexual intercourse with any of the girls.”

So we can all go finger his grand daughter or what?
 
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woolfe9998

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So we can all go finger his grand daughter or what?

By his definition, it's OK so long as it's a "teenager." So I guess it's open season so long as she's no younger than 13.

Of course, if the next victim speaking up turns out to have been 12 at the time, he may have to modify those parameters.
 
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HomerJS

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Speaking for myself (not lefty enough perhaps?) I wouldn't hang him for acts committed nearly 40 years ago... especially if it was statutory in nature and not physical assault. Sure it's still wrong, but what's worse is if he lies about it and blames the accusers and the press.

Lying about it is what would make him unfit for office. Unfortunately, I'm one of those old fashioned folks who stills sees sexual assault as a spectrum and not black and white. Moore's actions (based on what we know so far) pale in comparison to Weinstein, Cosby and Spacey.
You left out Trump
 

HomerJS

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If it was unwanted the first time, why did she agree to meet him again? I'm not trying to rationalize the thought process of a 14 year old girl, but she may have unwittingly given some signal to Moore that she might be ready to engage the 2nd time. She shot him down again, and he drove her home.
Are you serious??

Next time you are arrested for fingering a 13 year old try using the defense, "I asked her first and she pulled her pants down on her own"
 

Puffnstuff

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All we need is Bob Barker and Johnny Olson reading off this list of dirt bags from the legal price is right podium. Bob could offer them 3 doors to choose from while Johnny reads off the possible list of charges and sentences if they don't cooperate.

This really reminds me of Porky's where the so called upstanding members of the community were all huddled in a smoky room watching adult films.
 
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Sunburn74

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I don’t know the details here but I wouldn’t be surprised if the nominee has to withdraw and that the party can’t kick him off the ticket. I also wonder what the deadline for ballot access is. From the sounds of it that might already have passed, meaning their only choice other than Moore might be a write in candidate.

It seems like there’s a real possibility of a Democratic senator from Alabama. That’s amazing. Think of the insane series of fuckups that had to happen for this to be possible:

1) Racist yard gnome gets appointed AG
2) Replaced by asshole nobody likes.
3) Unlikeable asshole loses in the primary to an insane theocrat.
4) Insane theocrat turns out to be a sex offender.

It’s a statement to how insane things are that I’m not sure even all that will make a Democrat win there. That’s how nuts that state is.
Reality is stranger than fiction often.
 
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All we need is Bob Barker and Johnny Olson reading off this list of dirt bags from the legal price is right podium. Bob could offer them 3 doors to choose from while Johnny reads off the possible list of charges and sentences if they don't cooperate.

This really reminds me of Porky's where the so called upstanding members of the community were all huddled in a smoky room watching adult films.
Yeah you probably would need to move Bob over to the list and find a new announcer. Maybe Monty Hall?

On a side note. Remember the old days when Bob made women reach into his pockets to get the $100 bill if they got the bid right?
 
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Yeah you probably would need to move Bob over to the list and find a new announcer. Maybe Monty Hall?

On a side note. Remember the old days when Bob made women reach into his pockets to get the $100 bill if they got the bid right?

Yup, get in there and reach around...you'll find something
 
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