Right wing troll and general piece of human excrement Jack Posobiec doxxed one of the victims posting her picture and where she worked. He's since had to take his Twitter account private.
One would argue that 1960s and 2010s are different universes....
So many things are looked at differently back then.
Look at Maryland vs Rusk - This was in 1978-1979. Maybe you have forgotten how much the social climate has changed in a relatively short period of time?
https://law.justia.com/cases/maryland/court-of-special-appeals/1979/1249-september-term-1978-0.html
No. I am saying that in the past with MLK we separated his words from his actions because he was very much more than just an adulterer.
Not anything to do with HOW we know, but more what we know.
Repeat after me. Adultery is not child molestation.
Moore and Democrat Doug Jones are tied at 46% in the survey, which was conducted Thursday by Opinion Savvy and commissioned by Decision Desk HQ in the aftermath of a bombshell Washington Post report in which the accuser, now 53, went on record with her story.
The results also suggested that a write-in campaign by another Republican could tip the seat to Democrats — a prospect that once seemed far-fetched in deep-red Alabama. A three-way race — with Moore, Jones, and interim Sen. Luther Strange as a write-in candidate — would favor Jones with roughly 44% of the vote, followed by Moore at 41%, and Strange at 12%.
Don't forget about Spencer, I'm sure Bannon will make sure he gets funding.The National Republican Senate Committee has pulled out of it's joint fundraising agreement with Moore. Given that the Senate Leadership Fund has already denounced him I think this leaves only the RNC itself (for now) as the lone money raiser working with him.
You aren't understanding what I am trying to say.
The culture around adultery in the 60s vs the conduct of a 32 year old man trying to have sex with 16 year olds in the 70s might basically be a wash. In one instance he took an 18 year old on a date and gave her wine (legal drinking age is 19).
The only difference is the culture has eased in one direction (adultery) and tightened in another (underage sex), so you are applying todays cultural values to actions of a person 40 years ago.
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Right wing troll and general piece of human excrement Jack Posobiec doxxed one of the victims posting her picture and where she worked. He's since had to take his Twitter account private.
You aren't understanding what I am trying to say.
The culture around adultery in the 60s vs the conduct of a 32 year old man trying to have sex with 16 year olds in the 70s might basically be a wash. In one instance he took an 18 year old on a date and gave her wine (legal drinking age is 19).
The only difference is the culture has eased in one direction (adultery) and tightened in another (underage sex), so you are applying todays cultural values to actions of a person 40 years ago.
Even though it hasn't. Let's pretend that the stigma around adultery has actually gotten worse in this country. Would you want to be the person traipsing around this forum denouncing MLK every chance you got?
No. they aren't the same, no Moore is not MLK, and no I'm not defending his actions. I am just trying to add some nuance to the discussion.
He came damn close with the Planet Pizza shooter.I don't truly believe in vigilante justice...but damn I wouldn't be too sad if someone gave this prick a severe beating with a tire iron. He could literally get this woman killed.
from what I've heard, strange can't win a write-in due to Alabama's "sore loser" law. I guess those votes wouldn't count.Most recent poll of the race now has Jones and Moore tied, included questions about scandal. Moore would probably fall to a write in campaign for Strange.
He can't be represented by another party on the ballot I believe. I do think a write in would still be valid.from what I've heard, strange can't win a write-in due to Alabama's "sore loser" law. I guess those votes wouldn't count.
Alabama has a “sore loser" law, but Merril said that law only applies to names printed on the ballot, meaning appointed Sen. Luther Strange, who Moore defeated in a September primary, can seek election through that route.
“Sen. Strange could still be a write-in candidate, but he cannot be a candidate whose name appears printed on the ballot, that would be a violation of the sore loser law,” Merril said. A spokesman for Strange's campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment on his plans.
from what I've heard, strange can't win a write-in due to Alabama's "sore loser" law. I guess those votes wouldn't count.
This is because as time has gone on, we've realized that brains aren't fully developed until the mid 20's for most people. We've also learned more about humans in general in the last few decades and I think that it is safe to say a grown man trying to have sex with a pre-pubescent female is a mental deficiency, not simply a "bad choice" that has now become more significant due to changes in culture. The actual reasons for it being wrong from a biological/humanistic perspective was just as true then as now. An early 20's man and a late teens woman are probably fairly close developmentally and I'd be willing to entertain your nuance to the discussion. A 32-year old man and 14 year old woman is sexual abuse of a child, period.
I mean, we could say that owning slaves now is only really bad because of the cultural values today. I think we can all agree that slavery was always amoral and wrong, (some) people just didn't want to admit it then. The same is true here.
Yeah he had her name, the business name AND the city. The article said motorcycle dealership. beyond that he sent it out to his 220K followers with no attribution. That's on him.I don't truly believe in vigilante justice...but damn I wouldn't be too sad if someone gave this prick a severe beating with a tire iron. He could literally get this woman killed.
Edit: If true, of course
He's saying it was heavy.com.
I'm sure Moore isn't even worth any of this discussion so I doubt it is worth the bother.
The entire state of Alabama still disagrees, and especially the GOP disagrees...well, up until yesterday, anyway. Remember when this guy was the 10 Commandments darling of the national GOP, "doing for justice" what our beloved founders explicitly prohibited him from doing, via constitutional law?
Since someone brought up slavery. We still respect the funding fathers even though they were slave owners. And some like Jefferson even had sexual relations with his slaves.What level of good can someone do to offset a particular perversion. As I said before, Hoover tried with adultery and MLK, it failed, Chappelle tried to defend Cosby as a rapist and a saver, and it failed against Cosby.
I guess each case is a specific value judgment.
Since someone brought up slavery. We still respect the funding fathers even though they were slave owners. And some like Jefferson even had sexual relations with his slaves.
Not that Moore deserves any respect for any reason. For other people it should be possible to hate the sin and love the dinner, so to speak.