War Crimes - this is why the ACLU is good for America

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Ay, the topic changed. Do you want to talk about the ACLU? If you do, come out and say what you want on it?

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

I know nothing will convince you so I give up on you her 209? One last shot though. Perhaps I can convince you this is a war. Iraq, we're fighting insurgents in what is essentially a Civil War. In Afghanistan, we're doing the same thing, although it is more tame. Same thing in the Phillipines, Colombia, etc.

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

If we stay on the topic of the ACLU, and you all are such supporters of the Separation of Church and State, what do you thin of the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) sponsorship for such crap like "Piss Christ"? When people tried to act against this action, the ACLU jumped on their side.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
If we stay on the topic of the ACLU, and you all are such supporters of the Separation of Church and State, what do you thin of the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) sponsorship for such crap like "Piss Christ"? When people tried to act against this action, the ACLU jumped on their side.

Cus it's art. Art, I tell ya!

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
Ay, the topic changed. Do you want to talk about the ACLU? If you do, come out and say what you want on it?

The Ludicrous 12 of 2004

Rush Help

It's time to ask: How high is Rush Limbaugh? We know from medical records seized by the State Attorney's Office that Limbaugh popped more than 2,000 pain pills in a five-month span in 2003. And sure, he must have been stoned out of his gourd to say that racist thing about Donovan McNabb (that the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback gets undue props because "the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well"). But how wasted was he in May, when the big man (who still hasn't been charged with anything in connection with his addiction to pills) took a helping hand from the ACLU? The civil rights organization wrote to the judge in Limbaugh's drug case, backing up his assertion that prosecutors shouldn't be snooping in his medical files. Everybody's favorite right-wing blowhard not only accepted the help but later told Time magazine that he's always been a supporter of the ACLU. That, our friends, is one sweet buzz.

Hey Rush...here's an Oxycontin laced > for the right wing hypocrite junkie...

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Old news. Don't like the guy anyway.

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Taking a picture of a crucifix in urine filled jar. Yeah, that's more like atheistic or satanistic propaganda and seeing that there is the separation of government from religion, we shouldn't.

That's art about as much as me drinking a brewsky is.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk


That's art about as much as me drinking a brewsky is.

You said you're 17 years old.

It's tough being a seventeen year old conservative in Rhode Island.

You're too young to drink. Aren't you "conservatives" all law-abiding citizens?

Drinking Age and Alcohol Laws for All 50 States

Check out the reference links.

Where are your conservative family values?

What would MADD think?

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Just poetic license, that's something that you liberals seem to take for granted. To tell you the truth, I do have a drink once in a while. But I never go over the top. But you see, I am willing to admit that.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
Just poetic license, that's something that you liberals seem to take for granted. To tell you the truth, I do have a drink once in a while. But I never go over the top. But you see, I am willing to admit that.

You, and the people who are illegally supplying you with alcohol, are guilty of a serious crime every time you drink alcoholic beverages.

That's not poetic license.

 

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

I was talking about mine with the brewsky phrase.

 

[Corpsman]

Originally posted by: dahunan
THey are protecting OUR SOLDIERS by trying to force OUR/MY GOVERNMENT to abide by the rule of law and NOT TORTURE PEOPLE... so in turn others do not torture us and so Lady Liberty can quit feeling like a whore.

You serioulsy think that Muslim Extremist care 1 bit about the Geneva Conventions? Do you really think that if we followed every letter of the law that they would reciprocate? The problems with liberalism is that it requires one to be so open minded that your brains fall out.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
SuperTool, I am in the process of reading it now. Do you know of any liberal writer who's the lefts' equivalent of Savage?

Stalin?

That was funny as hell

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Corpsman

Originally posted by: dahunan
THey are protecting OUR SOLDIERS by trying to force OUR/MY GOVERNMENT to abide by the rule of law and NOT TORTURE PEOPLE... so in turn others do not torture us and so Lady Liberty can quit feeling like a whore.

You serioulsy think that Muslim Extremist care 1 bit about the Geneva Conventions? Do you really think that if we followed every letter of the law that they would reciprocate? The problems with liberalism is that it requires one to be so open minded that your brains fall out.

Anybody else find it odd that all these people registered on one day, posted alot in that one day and the few following it, and never returned again?

 

[Corpsman]

I am still here... but arguing with dumbasses gets tiresome

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Corpsman

Originally posted by: dahunan
THey are protecting OUR SOLDIERS by trying to force OUR/MY GOVERNMENT to abide by the rule of law and NOT TORTURE PEOPLE... so in turn others do not torture us and so Lady Liberty can quit feeling like a whore.

You serioulsy think that Muslim Extremist care 1 bit about the Geneva Conventions? Do you really think that if we followed every letter of the law that they would reciprocate? The problems with liberalism is that it requires one to be so open minded that your brains fall out.

Anybody else find it odd that all these people registered on one day, posted alot in that one day and the few following it, and never returned again?

expecialy when everyone but those new comers have gone over this argument over and over again

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: Corpsman

Originally posted by: dahunan
THey are protecting OUR SOLDIERS by trying to force OUR/MY GOVERNMENT to abide by the rule of law and NOT TORTURE PEOPLE... so in turn others do not torture us and so Lady Liberty can quit feeling like a whore.

You serioulsy think that Muslim Extremist care 1 bit about the Geneva Conventions? Do you really think that if we followed every letter of the law that they would reciprocate? The problems with liberalism is that it requires one to be so open minded that your brains fall out.

maybe we shouldn't have overthrown governments left and right in the Middle East in the 50s 60s 70 and 80s. you ever hear of the term blowback?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
I have a lot of respect for the ACLU, because they fight the consistant fight whether it's popular or not.

Sometimes I don't like the cases they take, sometimes I do.

:thumbsup:

 

[NarcoticHobo]

By harrassing the Boy Scouts, for example?

Well they are behind the times... they don't even have an eagle scout equivalent for girls.

(yes of course that would be for the Girl scouts to do, but they are run by the same organization, Boy Scouts of America)

 

[Ozoned]

"If our government wasn't concerned with the rule of law, why are they documenting all of the cases of the allegations of wrongdoing"

 

[NarcoticHobo]

Originally posted by: Ozoned



"If our government wasn't concerned with the rule of law, why are they documenting all of the cases of the allegations of wrongdoing"

Well it is standard military procedure to document whatever goes on and send the reports back to command. Therefore the responsibility to make the reports is to the government itself, whereas the accusation that our government is concerned with the law is an accusation that they do not care about laws that apply responsibility to the people. Therefore by recording they are being responsible to themselves, but by not showing they are ignoring the responsibility to the public.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) government agencies are required to disclose records requested in writing by any person.

The ACLU apparently requested and received information. How does this make them special?

We all know they play CYA all the time, and they hold enough clout to block almost anything they wish. If you just apply for information of this magnitude, you'd prolly get some nice form letter that says NOTHING. But if you have enough TV cameras, and lawyers, they will give you the real thing.

 

[mect]

I can't believe that people actually think the ACLU is balanced. They do not support freedom. They want to bend everyone to think the same way they do. If people want to speak out for homosexuality, the ACLU defends it based on the first ammendment. If someone speeks out against homosexuality, the ACLU attacks it as hate speech, even if people just speak out against the practice and not against the people. The ACLU only believes in protecting rights they agree with. They are especially supportive of frivolous law suits, and denying private organizations the freedom to run as they see fit. Yes, you can have religious freedom, as long as your religious beliefs don't consider anything to be morally wrong. The funny thing is, the same people that praise the ACLU for not giving in to what is popular condemn the catholic church for not modernizing (and no I'm not Catholic).