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DVad3r

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laxative s'il vous plait.

No seriously, why not make this summit in like, Nunavut or some shit. Think of the safety and savings!

I stayed out of the city since Thursday, Mississauga is so peaceful
 

sdifox

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No seriously, why not make this summit in like, Nunavut or some shit. Think of the safety and savings!

I stayed out of the city since Thursday, Mississauga is so peaceful

Because Harper hates big cities.
 

Locut0s

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Lol at those saying CBC is ultra left. They are a well respected news organization that does good reporting for the most part. At best they are very slightly left of centre. Course American standards are so far skewed to the right that the centre position in other countries may seem left
 

Eug

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Nunavut has no facilities whatsoever. Then again, they could probably build some pretty good facilities for a couple hundred million $.

As for the CBC, it are one of my favourite news sources, as is the BBC. I'd say they're both just slightly left of centre, with a lot of US news sources pushing more right.
 

DVad3r

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Nunavut has no facilities whatsoever. Then again, they could probably build some pretty good facilities for a couple hundred million $.

As for the CBC, it are one of my favourite news sources, as is the BBC. I'd say they're both just slightly left of centre, with a lot of US news sources pushing more right.

They could make a pretty uber tent there for much less. And there's a lot of other cities/towns in Canada with facilities. Even Center Island in TO would of been a better choice. Or a ship like someone else said. Or just have the meeting in secret and be done with it?
 

imported_Champ

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To be honest, I'd be protesting as well if I lived in Canada! I was averaging 15% sales tax on everything I bought the last time I visited Ontario, and I can only imagine what the income and property taxes are on top of that.

its only 5% in Alberta
 

imported_Champ

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at the end of the day there are going to be a lot of people complaining about how the police acted and how they could have done better, no matter what their actions people will complain.

it sucks that some members of the media and innocent people are getting arrested but it is a risk that is run when you enter protests that you know 1 or 2 jackasses will make violent. Its a sad cost when a few individuals ruin it for those who truly care about their causes, but unless the police open fire I feel the job they are doing although in some cases is misdirected is absolutely necessary.

I know if I was a cop there I would not think twice about arresting someone I suspected of causing trouble, knowing that you may be wrong will ruin one persons day, but if you caught an asshole it could make 10000s of peoples day safer
 

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And 15% as of July 1st in Nova Scotia.

Interesting how people keep talking about taxes, yet no one makes the connection as to why so many G20 countries are now hugely in debt at the same time and facing fiscal disaster? Hence the rise in taxes.

Yes, its the very result of the rules the G20 adopted over the last 10-15 years.

The housing bubble, the banking failures, all were the result of G20 nations deregulating markets. Together, according to the rules they made up. Together.

One world financial government is a far greater danger than one world U.N. government.
The financial government is already up and running.
 

techs

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But lets fear the Tea Party and the Health Care Town Hall meetings!





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I do fear the tea party. Because they have real power. The protesters of the G20, many of whom have a real concern and are highly educated, are powerless.
The tea party is often composed of mindless, indoctrinated, racist haters who have a real influence over our government.
 

0roo0roo

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What exactly are these people protesting? Are they protesting the most powerful nations getting together or something?

its easier than giving their personal "undeserved" wealth to the 3rd world. better go to a protest, then go home and play xbox.
 

0roo0roo

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I do fear the tea party. Because they have real power. The protesters of the G20, many of whom have a real concern and are highly educated, are powerless.
The tea party is often composed of mindless, indoctrinated, racist haters who have a real influence over our government.

no, the tea party want people left alone. the g20 types are the types that "know" whats best for everyone else. the types that are insane busy bodies if they ever get into power and wreck sh*t. instead of working for solutions themselves, whether it be environmental or aid, they tend to try to force others to deliver on their wishful thinking. "highly educated" liberal arts folks, who push conspiracies and other nonsense...theres plenty of irrationality in that crowd.

since your sig is about oil, thats just another example. instead of honestly working for better regulations on oil drilling acknowledging our real need for the stuff, these folks tend to push for bans, expending energy on the pointless nimby nonsense, which only discredits them as extremists people easily ignore. all that energy wasted, pushing oil drilling further out to sea, and ignoring the real issues which was regulation for ones that made them "feel" better. highly impractical people that sometimes do more harm than good.
 
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Tangerines

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Interesting how people keep talking about taxes, yet no one makes the connection as to why so many G20 countries are now hugely in debt at the same time and facing fiscal disaster? Hence the rise in taxes.

Yes, its the very result of the rules the G20 adopted over the last 10-15 years.

The housing bubble, the banking failures, all were the result of G20 nations deregulating markets. Together, according to the rules they made up. Together.

One world financial government is a far greater danger than one world U.N. government.
The financial government is already up and running.

You really don't know a whole lot about how the G20 operates, do you?

Meetings like this one are used to organize new trade agreements and reduce/eliminate tariffs, not regulate banks (which is by and large a domestic issue handled separately by each member of the G20).

The majority of protesters are antiglobalization nuts who think that the G20 is a "one world government" or don't understand that free trade is good.

I do fear the tea party. Because they have real power. The protesters of the G20, many of whom have a real concern and are highly educated, are powerless.

Highly educated my ass. These protesters are violent thugs don't have "real concern". They're paranoid nutjobs who think that torching cars and inciting violence somehow gets their point across.
 

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You really don't know a whole lot about how the G20 operates, do you?

Meetings like this one are used to organize new trade agreements and reduce/eliminate tariffs, not regulate banks (which is by and large a domestic issue handled separately by each member of the G20).

The majority of protesters are antiglobalization nuts who think that the G20 is a "one world government" or don't understand that free trade is good.



Highly educated my ass. These protesters are violent thugs don't have "real concern". They're paranoid nutjobs who think that torching cars and inciting violence somehow gets their point across.

Hence the problem. You obviously don't know the G20:

The Group of Twenty Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors (G-20, Group of Twenty) is a group of finance ministers and central bank governors from 20 economies: 19 countries plus the European Union. Their heads of government have also periodically conferred at summits since their initial meeting in 2008. Collectively, the G-20 economies comprise 85%[3] of global gross national product, 80% of world trade (including EU intra-trade) and two-thirds of the world population.[2]

The G-20 is a forum for cooperation and consultation on matters pertaining to the international financial system. It studies, reviews, and promotes discussion (among key industrial and emerging market countries) of policy issues pertaining to the promotion of international financial stability, and seeks to address issues that go beyond the responsibilities of any one organization. With the G-20 growing in stature since the 2008 Washington summit, its leaders announced on September 25, 2009, that the group will replace the G8 as the main economic council of wealthy nations


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_g20

The Group of 20 leaders of the world's richest and emerging nations, holding a two-day summit in Toronto, neared agreement on broad principles to halve their budget deficits within three years and toughen bank capital requirements, according to a draft communique obtained by Reuters.

But they are leaving room for each country to choose its own timetable.

China conceded that its yuan currency was a valid topic of discussion here, reversing its earlier opposition, as the G20 tries to make good on a promise to iron out imbalances between export-rich countries, such as China, and indebted consumer nations including the United States.

The shift toward tailor-made solutions -- seen in the approach to budget deficits, bank reform and trade -- contrasts with the last three G20 summits where they linked arms to combat the worst global recession in decades.

The draft document shows countries will be given a choice whether to levy taxes on banks to recoup bailout costs -- Europe had pushed for a global tax -- and can phase in stricter bank capital rules to fit national needs.


If this doesn't look to you like a world financial government, just try substituting US states for nations. It operates very much like our Federal system.
While countries can theoretically buck the system, the enormous power of the G20 makes that very unlikely. Sort of like a US state deciding to buck Federal rules and give up Federal funds. Happens very rarely.
 

0roo0roo

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yea well talk is meaningless, thats just a fact.

the eu couldn't even control the finances of pissant countries like greece, forget the world really working together.
 

Eug

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Don't believe me the CBC is an ultra left wing organization? Look at this story

Family hit by G20 raid say police overreached

Then just have a look in the comment section.
Why are you so obsessed with the comment section, when the CBC writers don't write those?

Also, it seems they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, with criminals downstairs, when they were living upstairs. Seems pretty straight forward reporting to me. And yeah, that's definitely worth reporting. If it were me with a gun pointed in my face, I'd be completely pissed too, and I'd also call the local news outlets.

In other words, you're coming across to almost as much of a nutter as some who spend all day posting crazy comments for newspaper articles.
 
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sdifox

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I don't think I have ever seen so many patrol cars left alone with windows open. It does sound like a decoy/trap to me.
 

silverpig

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Don't believe me the CBC is an ultra left wing organization? Look at this story

Family hit by G20 raid say police overreached

Then just have a look in the comment section.

The story was reported quite fairly I thought. No mention at all of the evil police state arresting citizens at will.

Yeah, some of the comments are hyper left-wing, but those are comments and have nothing to do with the CBC as an organization. And this has already been mentioned in the thread by other posters. Pretty balanced, slightly left-of-center reporting, very left wing comments by the public.

Note: The CBC does not necessarily endorse any of the views posted. By submitting your comments, you acknowledge that CBC has the right to reproduce, broadcast and publicize those comments or any part thereof in any manner whatsoever. Please note that comments are pre-moderated/reviewed and published according to our submission guidelines.

Their submission guidelines basically say: "Don't be racist/sexist, don't swear, and don't post porno."
 
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