"War On!"

[MidasKnight]

Do you not realize that politics are a part of war ? For better or worse that's how war is waged. Now it's time to deal a death blow to the foreign insurgents that terrorize the Iraqi people.

The majority have spoken in this election and are behind President Bush in this regard.

 

[Emveach]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: conjur

Now that Bush won't suffer any political repercussions, the war is back on. Good thing he's making Iraq safer by attacking it again.

Second that

The US and Iraqi forces need to finally deal with Fallujah and the insurgents that infest that city.

You are both missing the point!

This attack was delayed for *weeks*! It was delayed until after the election. This is playing politics with our soldiers' lives!

Maybe you are missing the point. We don't care. So what if it was delayed? Do you have any physical proof that the delay was for political reasons? Do you know for certain that it wasn't to insure ground forces were in place and secure enough to take the city? No. All you have is your lame attempts to now knock anything and everything that happens now that Kerry has lost.

This has *nothing* to do with Kerry.


Apparently you missed this thread?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&threadid=1413995

So I take it you skipped the center of the article where pentagon officials liked the idea of holding off on ground attacks? Seems that air strikes were working better at the time, and now they are strating them up again.

 

[Steeplerot]

the moral majority of morons have spoken to rove's ass with their holy lips.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
the moral majority of morons have spoken to rove's ass with their holy lips.

Sore loser? Methinks so.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
the moral majority of morons have spoken to rove's ass with their holy lips.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: conjur

Now that Bush won't suffer any political repercussions, the war is back on. Good thing he's making Iraq safer by attacking it again.

Second that

The US and Iraqi forces need to finally deal with Fallujah and the insurgents that infest that city.

You are both missing the point!

This attack was delayed for *weeks*! It was delayed until after the election. This is playing politics with our soldiers' lives!

Maybe you are missing the point. We don't care. So what if it was delayed? Do you have any physical proof that the delay was for political reasons? Do you know for certain that it wasn't to insure ground forces were in place and secure enough to take the city? No. All you have is your lame attempts to now knock anything and everything that happens now that Kerry has lost.

This has *nothing* to do with Kerry.


Apparently you missed this thread?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&threadid=1413995

So I take it you skipped the center of the article where pentagon officials liked the idea of holding off on ground attacks? Seems that air strikes were working better at the time, and now they are strating them up again.

So I take it you skipped the part where the administration official flat-out states playing politics with the soldiers' lives:

"When this election's over, you'll see us move very vigorously," said one senior administration official involved in strategic planning, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Once you're past the election, it changes the political ramifications" of a large-scale offensive, the official said. "We're not on hold right now. We're just not as aggressive."

Any delay in pacifying Iraq's most troublesome cities, however, could alter the dynamics of a different election -- the one in January, when Iraqis are to elect members of a national assembly.

 

[Emveach]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: conjur

Now that Bush won't suffer any political repercussions, the war is back on. Good thing he's making Iraq safer by attacking it again.

Second that

The US and Iraqi forces need to finally deal with Fallujah and the insurgents that infest that city.

You are both missing the point!

This attack was delayed for *weeks*! It was delayed until after the election. This is playing politics with our soldiers' lives!

Maybe you are missing the point. We don't care. So what if it was delayed? Do you have any physical proof that the delay was for political reasons? Do you know for certain that it wasn't to insure ground forces were in place and secure enough to take the city? No. All you have is your lame attempts to now knock anything and everything that happens now that Kerry has lost.

This has *nothing* to do with Kerry.


Apparently you missed this thread?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2&threadid=1413995

So I take it you skipped the center of the article where pentagon officials liked the idea of holding off on ground attacks? Seems that air strikes were working better at the time, and now they are strating them up again.

So I take it you skipped the part where the administration official flat-out states playing politics with the soldiers' lives:

"When this election's over, you'll see us move very vigorously," said one senior administration official involved in strategic planning, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Once you're past the election, it changes the political ramifications" of a large-scale offensive, the official said. "We're not on hold right now. We're just not as aggressive."

Any delay in pacifying Iraq's most troublesome cities, however, could alter the dynamics of a different election -- the one in January, when Iraqis are to elect members of a national assembly.

Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

 

[DT4K]

There were air strikes on Fallujah three weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah two weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah one week ago

This is not a story.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

Hey, I'm all for letting the insurgents gather more forces in some hotspots before we blow them up. Higher kill ratio per strike = more efficient. So I guess we can actually credit Bush with trying to get maximum ROE with the weapons used in the attack.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

Hey, I'm all for letting the insurgents gather more forces in some hotspots before we blow them up. Higher kill ratio per strike = more efficient. So I guess we can actually credit Bush with trying to get maximum ROE with the weapons used in the attack.

OK, that's kinda stretching it isn't it?

 

[Emveach]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

They were still getting air strikes. Just no ground movement. If any more rebles wanted to join in and help catch falling bombs, then good for them.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

Hey, I'm all for letting the insurgents gather more forces in some hotspots before we blow them up. Higher kill ratio per strike = more efficient. So I guess we can actually credit Bush with trying to get maximum ROE with the weapons used in the attack.

OK, that's kinda stretching it isn't it?

Heh, it was meant in sarcasm. My argument is as valid as conjurs(i.e. it's not valid).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

They were still getting air strikes. Just no ground movement. If any more rebles wanted to join in and help catch falling bombs, then good for them.

Yeah, our air strikes have been effective in all cases. :roll:

Two weddings attacked and a popular restaurant destroyed?

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Emveach
Nope. Read it all. It was a good idea to delay major action until after the election. You need to make sure that the Commander in Chief isn't gonna get swapped out before you commit yourself to a major action that could last months.

Let's let the insurgents grow in size and/or support while we wait for our elections. Good thinking.

They were still getting air strikes. Just no ground movement. If any more rebles wanted to join in and help catch falling bombs, then good for them.

Yeah, our air strikes have been effective in all cases. :roll:

Two weddings attacked and a popular restaurant destroyed?

You're so clueless...

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: DT4K
There were air strikes on Fallujah three weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah two weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah one week ago

This is not a story.

Exactly. And it hasn't done any major damage to the insurgency so far.

The US will need a major ground assault if they want to make a dent. Unfortunately, a major ground assault = large coalition losses (relatively speaking).

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: conjur

Awww....poor diddums don't wike da twooth.

Is somone feeling badly about being rejected and rendered irrelevant and they need a great big ole hug to make 'em feel all better? C'mere, lay your head on Unca' Format's shoulder and let it all out.

 

[digiram]

Originally posted by: jtusa4

Originally posted by: jpeyton
We'll have to watch the news over the next few days to see how much this actually affects the insurgency in Iraq in the short term, let alone over the next few years of occupation.

Doing things like this will undoubtedly make a difference. If your enemy has no safe place to sleep, he won't be able to fight.

It's the enemy's friggin country, he's got plenty of places to sleep and with death of more civilians the insurgency will multiply.

 

[Jeff7]

They'd best wrap it up though, and soon.
Britain fought a similar war a few hundred years ago, when it was the most powerful nation in the world. They gave up on a costly war; the insurgents won.

 

[StageLeft]

Conjur, don't you ever get tired of this? Such blatant partisan hackery never does anything to bring people to your side, it just makes them fed up with your extremism and more likely to vote aginst people of your ilk (by this I mean people who think that Bush is the anti-christ, and the reason behind diarrhea, bad weather, and my transmission dying). You remind me marvelously of religious zealots who, while they think they're doing god's work, are doing nothing but pushing people away.

 

[Class1]

We should have just bombed the sh_t out of them and then left. Don't try to bring them around to our way of thinking just bloody there nose and teach them not to fvck with us and move on.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Class1
We should have just bombed the sh_t out of them and then left. Don't try to bring them around to our way of thinking just bloody there nose and teach them not to fvck with us and move on.

Iraq hasn't fvcked with the US in a long time, so all that lesson would have done would have been to kill them, and then turn many others against the us.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: DT4K
There were air strikes on Fallujah three weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah two weeks ago
There were air strikes on Fallujah one week ago

This is not a story.

Exactly. And it hasn't done any major damage to the insurgency so far.

The US will need a major ground assault if they want to make a dent. Unfortunately, a major ground assault = large coalition losses (relatively speaking).

Which is why they've held off until after the election.

 

[assemblage]

Good news. The terrorists refused to lay down their arms. The US surrouned the city for weeks, evacuated civilians (and probably many of the terrorists who use civilians as shields), repositioned troops, started bombing a few days ago and the 5th column in the US has been temporarily defeated. The soilders should be good to go.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: going5hole
Isn't Fallujah the place where the military tried to talk out a plan, only to have the insurgents living there start attacking them again? Diplomacy failed there, so why try it again?

Because we should try and hold hands and become buddies with them. These tards have no clue.

Actually the tards understood what was happening. Bush was delaying until after the election. "Screw Iraq, I have something more important to worry about" was what he effectively said.