WAR - what is your impression?

[VashHT]

The people saying this looks like WoW should really look at a screen of a elf in WoW vs. an elf in WAR, they really look nothing alike. Both engines may be relatively weak but the art design in WAR is way different than WoW, they look absolutely nothing alike I don't see how people draw this conclusion.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I've only played a few characters to the teens in open beta, and now for a tiny bit on live. My impression is it's decent. It doesn't have anywhere near the polish WoW had at release and the graphics seem really stiff almost lacking lifelikeness (almost). It's cool that PvP is really effective for leveling, but since it's faster than PvEing I feel like I'm obligated to skip PvE that I kind of want to do a bit. I don't know how it'll be in the long run, but it's fun and new enough to put some time into now.

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: VashHT
The people saying this looks like WoW should really look at a screen of a elf in WoW vs. an elf in WAR, they really look nothing alike. Both engines may be relatively weak but the art design in WAR is way different than WoW, they look absolutely nothing alike I don't see how people draw this conclusion.

I agree completely. I really think most people just cant get past the fact that they both have orcs, dwarves, and elves. Play for just a little while and it's easy to tell the art direction and zone design are vastly different between the two games. Both are meticulously crafted, but Mythic has seemingly foregone the cartoonishness of WoW for gritty realism.

I can understand why people are claiming it. The first time I saw a WAR video I thought it looked and played exactly like WoW. But now that I'm playing it it's glaringly obvious that this is NOT a WoW clone in graphics or gameplay.

My impression: loving it so far, but I'm only rank 12.

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
I've only played a few characters to the teens in open beta, and now for a tiny bit on live. My impression is it's decent. It doesn't have anywhere near the polish WoW had at release and the graphics seem really stiff almost lacking lifelikeness (almost). It's cool that PvP is really effective for leveling, but since it's faster than PvEing I feel like I'm obligated to skip PvE that I kind of want to do a bit. I don't know how it'll be in the long run, but it's fun and new enough to put some time into now.

I really don't get this comment. I'd argue that even now the character animations in WoW aren't exactly fluid and lifelike. Maybe it's because I played a rogue that had essentially the same animation for every freakin' move.

What is WAR missing? Somersaulting night elves?

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
I've only played a few characters to the teens in open beta, and now for a tiny bit on live. My impression is it's decent. It doesn't have anywhere near the polish WoW had at release and the graphics seem really stiff almost lacking lifelikeness (almost). It's cool that PvP is really effective for leveling, but since it's faster than PvEing I feel like I'm obligated to skip PvE that I kind of want to do a bit. I don't know how it'll be in the long run, but it's fun and new enough to put some time into now.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion and all that.

I will say, though, that to skip PvE would be to do yourself a disservice. The experience from PvE is akin to that of PvP and in some cases (PQs) much better. Questing in the scenarios is twice as good.

 

[drebo]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hey Drebo are you playing on an open rvr server?

No, I play on a Core RP server. But that doesn't change the fact that when someone sees a red name, they're more apt than not to just attack it, even if they are not already flagged for RvR, without considering the effects their stupidity will have on their group/the rest of the PQ area.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
I've only played a few characters to the teens in open beta, and now for a tiny bit on live. My impression is it's decent. It doesn't have anywhere near the polish WoW had at release and the graphics seem really stiff almost lacking lifelikeness (almost). It's cool that PvP is really effective for leveling, but since it's faster than PvEing I feel like I'm obligated to skip PvE that I kind of want to do a bit. I don't know how it'll be in the long run, but it's fun and new enough to put some time into now.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion and all that.

I will say, though, that to skip PvE would be to do yourself a disservice. The experience from PvE is akin to that of PvP and in some cases (PQs) much better. Questing in the scenarios is twice as good.

I was expressing my regret at skipping PvE content for faster leveling. I like that PvP is viable for leveling, but I think it's a little too viable. I also have a hardtime resisting leveling up in the faster method especially since pvp is really fun to me.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Anubis
you know as well as I that wont happen, a lot of the "kiddies" in wow are pvpers who have been waiting for WAR, gladly ill be happy to see them go

Same... I hope WAR is plagued with the anal and Harry Potter game! If not, I may need to buy WAR and become a bit of a catalyst :evil:!

Originally posted by: Mem
I wish people wouldn't keep comparing games to boring WoW.

Except it is the current top MMO, which makes it a valid comparison. Also, based on your terminology, I wouldn't put much faith in your assessments as they're most likely a tad bit skewed.

I might try the game if it gets cheap to buy... 'cause I know if I buy it now I won't even play it. So I'll at least try and throw away less money .

Not on my list its not,I can post what I like since it's my opinion,if you want to play WoW fine, just don't try to convince me its great..I can list a few games MMORPG wise that I prefer over WoW and yes its my opinion from REAL playing experience.

Back on topic I got my CE box about 10 mins ago, yes its huge.


Stability wise I only had the game crash once in over a week so very good for a new game , early days so WAR will probably change a bit as patches/improvements are made.
I do wish there was more classes that were unique.

 

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's an MMO, It failed.

Reviewed by Maleficus

thanks ponitfex.

at least i give reasons for not liking something. you guys really need to stop this BS too.

I've given plenty of reasons in countless threads, I didn't feel like enumerating them all over, the genre itself is a failure.

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's an MMO, It failed.

Reviewed by Maleficus

thanks ponitfex.

at least i give reasons for not liking something. you guys really need to stop this BS too.

I've given plenty of reasons in countless threads, I didn't feel like enumerating them all over, the genre itself is a failure.

You're just wasting your time and pissing off people who actually like the game. You're jsut an asshole man stop posting about games if you don't like them.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's an MMO, It failed.

Reviewed by Maleficus

thanks ponitfex.

at least i give reasons for not liking something. you guys really need to stop this BS too.

I've given plenty of reasons in countless threads, I didn't feel like enumerating them all over, the genre itself is a failure.

And yet, tons and tons of people play them.

We can't all be in an UB4A L337 clan like you, we're not as awesome.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Maleficus
It's an MMO, It failed.

Reviewed by Maleficus

thanks ponitfex.

at least i give reasons for not liking something. you guys really need to stop this BS too.

I've given plenty of reasons in countless threads, I didn't feel like enumerating them all over, the genre itself is a failure.

the billions of $ Blizzard makes every year tends to say not a failure

 

[Maleficus]

Financially no, of course they aren't a failure; in terms of actually being a game or having any redeeming value (to the 'player' obviously, not the corporations cackling, crawling to the bank because they are unable to walk with all your money weighing them down).

 

[Mem]

Can we keep WoW out of this thread,one thing that gets me annoyed is every MMORPG thread I see you get some WoW players making some pointless comment or two in non WoW threads.

No WoW trolling thankyou.

 

[Anubis]

im not trolling about wow im defending the MMO genre, the redeeming value of any game is weather its fun or not, millions of people think MMOs are fun so they play them. game = success

its not like FPS's have any other redeeming value other then being fun

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: Anubis
im not trolling about wow im defending the MMO genre, the redeeming value of any game is weather its fun or not, millions of people think MMOs are fun so they play them. game = success

its not like FPS's have any other redeeming value other then being fun

Both MMORPG and single player games can be fun or not as the case may be,everybody has different opinions and tastes when it comes to gaming.

Now back on topic please,anybody found any serious bugs in WAR ?

 

[Baked]

I rolled a few dark elves on phoenix throne. So far I like the instance pvp, or whatever they call it in war. I was reading the manual last night and LOL'd when I read high lvl people going into low lvl PvP get turn into chicken. Niiice.

Questing is very intuitive and you can join in public questing whenever. Some of the DE quest givers act like real bitches, which makes the game more alive and its characters actual personality.

Gonna limit myself to 1-2 hours max a night instead of full time like I did on WoW.

 

[Maleficus]

Originally posted by: Anubis
im not trolling about wow im defending the MMO genre, the redeeming value of any game is weather its fun or not, millions of people think MMOs are fun so they play them. game = success

its not like FPS's have any other redeeming value other then being fun

Actually that's not true, games have historically been used as a means to hone an ability, that's where skill comes into play. This is why we get upset when a game isn't balanced, because our skills are being negated.

An MMO requires no skill and be can played at 'the highest level' while catatonic.

The purpose of a game is to have fun, but equal in importance is how it does this. The good games will do this by building a skill and just like everything else in life, you get better at something it feels good. MMO's on the other hand don't allow this, instead to make everyone feel good, they make the only requirement to 'get better' a factor of time.

read the article in my sig. not the same point, but a good one nonetheless.

Just a PS since I'm sure people will take the above as me saying that's the only way a game can be fun, that's not what im saying, it's an example. I've enjoyed single player games with great stories like everyone else, the purpose of those games is obviously different although I would still argue they give you something for the experience.

MMO's are utterly devoid of story, not because they lack the base, because the player takes no part in it.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Baked
I rolled a few dark elves on phoenix throne. So far I like the instance pvp, or whatever they call it in war. I was reading the manual last night and LOL'd when I read high lvl people going into low lvl PvP get turn into chicken. Niiice.
.

yea i always thought that was a great idea

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: Anubis
im not trolling about wow im defending the MMO genre, the redeeming value of any game is weather its fun or not, millions of people think MMOs are fun so they play them. game = success

its not like FPS's have any other redeeming value other then being fun

Actually that's not true, games have historically been used as a means to hone an ability, that's where skill comes into play. This is why we get upset when a game isn't balanced, because our skills are being negated.

An MMO requires no skill and be can played at 'the highest level' while catatonic.

The purpose of a game is to have fun, but equal in importance is how it does this. The good games will do this by building a skill and just like everything else in life, you get better at something it feels good. MMO's on the other hand don't allow this, instead to make everyone feel good, they make the only requirement to 'get better' a factor of time.

read the article in my sig. not the same point, but a good one nonetheless.

Just a PS since I'm sure people will take the above as me saying that's the only way a game can be fun, that's not what im saying, it's an example. I've enjoyed single player games with great stories like everyone else, the purpose of those games is obviously different although I would still argue they give you something for the experience.

MMO's are utterly devoid of story, not because they lack the base, because the player takes no part in it.

You've got to be kidding.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Maleficus

Originally posted by: Anubis
im not trolling about wow im defending the MMO genre, the redeeming value of any game is weather its fun or not, millions of people think MMOs are fun so they play them. game = success

its not like FPS's have any other redeeming value other then being fun

Actually that's not true, games have historically been used as a means to hone an ability, that's where skill comes into play. This is why we get upset when a game isn't balanced, because our skills are being negated.

An MMO requires no skill and be can played at 'the highest level' while catatonic.

The purpose of a game is to have fun, but equal in importance is how it does this. The good games will do this by building a skill and just like everything else in life, you get better at something it feels good. MMO's on the other hand don't allow this, instead to make everyone feel good, they make the only requirement to 'get better' a factor of time.

read the article in my sig. not the same point, but a good one nonetheless.

Just a PS since I'm sure people will take the above as me saying that's the only way a game can be fun, that's not what im saying, it's an example. I've enjoyed single player games with great stories like everyone else, the purpose of those games is obviously different although I would still argue they give you something for the experience.

MMO's are utterly devoid of story, not because they lack the base, because the player takes no part in it.

ive read whats in your sig and i dont agree with it,
all of what you posted comes down to personal choice, people chose to play MMOs because they want to, so what if people ignore the story? its their choice there are those that love the story/lore of MMOs

The purpose of a game is to have fun, but equal in importance is how it does this. The good games will do this by building a skill and just like everything else in life, you get better at something it feels good. MMO's on the other hand don't allow this, instead to make everyone feel good, they make the only requirement to 'get better' a factor of time..

no that is not important at all because what 1 person equates to being fun is totally different then someone elses, also the time= better arguement is total BS, hell and to an extent so is the better gear=better player arguement

bad players are bad reguardless of the amount of time played, and bad players in epic gear are still bad

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: drebo

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hey Drebo are you playing on an open rvr server?

No, I play on a Core RP server. But that doesn't change the fact that when someone sees a red name, they're more apt than not to just attack it, even if they are not already flagged for RvR, without considering the effects their stupidity will have on their group/the rest of the PQ area.

Heh well an idiot is born every minute

 

[Maleficus]

Anubis: I don't really understand how you can deny the time = better argument, it is literally impossible in WoW for a lvl 1 character to kill a max level, hell it's impossible for 100 level 1 characters to kill 1 max level, the game prevents them from EVER hitting the person. This would never happen in a skill based game, it goes against the very nature of it.

 

[Maleficus]

Jschmuck2: You've got to be kidding.

If you can't see that games like chess and go are meant to improve mental acuity then I don't really know what to say to you.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Maleficus
Anubis: I don't really understand how you can deny the time = better argument, it is literally impossible in WoW for a lvl 1 character to kill a max level, hell it's impossible for 100 level 1 characters to kill 1 max level, the game prevents them from EVER hitting the person. This would never happen in a skill based game, it goes against the very nature of it.

Because it doesn?t, what you just posted is honestly one of the stupidest things I have ever read, in any game where there are levels which is not limited to MMOs this is the case, any game with progressive leveling and skills is the same way, you cant walk in at level 1 and just kill stuff, its how its designed. Yes it takes time to level up but that?s irrelevant.

Assuming max level more time does not equal better.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: Maleficus
Jschmuck2: You've got to be kidding.

If you can't see that games like chess and go are meant to improve mental acuity then I don't really know what to say to you.

I would agree with that - however, in this context, I just assumed we were talking about video games.