Seems 1.06 broke something as the servers are down for another "stability maintenance" until 11:30 PM PST.
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: novasatori
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: novasatori
People are still playing this??:laugh:
I ask the same thing about EVE all the time.
To be fair, EVE at least has and sticks to its vision and was mostly successful at carrying it out.
Plus you don't even have to play EVE to be successful!
So why play it?
Originally posted by: novasatori
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: novasatori
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: novasatori
People are still playing this??:laugh:
I ask the same thing about EVE all the time.
To be fair, EVE at least has and sticks to its vision and was mostly successful at carrying it out.
Plus you don't even have to play EVE to be successful!
So why play it?
My last sentence was sarcasm.
Originally posted by: Imaginer
And scenerios are more like glorified MMOized Team Fortress 2 instances.
Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: Imaginer
And scenerios are more like glorified MMOized Team Fortress 2 instances.
And this is why I dislike WAR. It's just not my thing. I don't like TF 2 either though. All my friends that love TF2 and play War still play WAR. Took me 4 days or so of my sub to uninstall it and toss that into the 'I just wasted 50 bucks' bin.
Originally posted by: tsolin01
While the overall population of WAR has certainly declined, as long as you play on a populated server, you won't really see it. They've been opening up transfers more instead of just merging servers for PR reasons more than anything I think. They've also silently stopped allowing new character creations on certain servers and allowed free transfers for inactive accounts to give them incentives to come back. There will probably be news of shutting down servers soon.
Although it's seems bad, the servers that are left are a lot better off than before.
I'm on Ironfist and with the recent round of transfers it's been a slight imbalance to the T4 pop but with more people around, there's a lot more things going on. Pretty much every day there are warbands of both sides out doing open RvR. The coordination with the different guilds and interactions on vent are pretty much what my initial vision of WAR was and it's shaping up nicely.
They made zone locking slightly easier too and the day of that patch Order managed to get to a fortress on Ironfist. Patch 1.1 also comes with some really nice changes that have been a long time coming like Item linking, easier PQs in each chapter that you can 1-3 man, RvR influence system, rebalancing of stats on armor sets to stuff that makes sense...
The recent change to the client to make fortress battles bearable is also pretty nice. We got to test it out first hand that day and the game was actually very playable.
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: tsolin01
While the overall population of WAR has certainly declined, as long as you play on a populated server, you won't really see it. They've been opening up transfers more instead of just merging servers for PR reasons more than anything I think. They've also silently stopped allowing new character creations on certain servers and allowed free transfers for inactive accounts to give them incentives to come back. There will probably be news of shutting down servers soon.
Although it's seems bad, the servers that are left are a lot better off than before.
I'm on Ironfist and with the recent round of transfers it's been a slight imbalance to the T4 pop but with more people around, there's a lot more things going on. Pretty much every day there are warbands of both sides out doing open RvR. The coordination with the different guilds and interactions on vent are pretty much what my initial vision of WAR was and it's shaping up nicely.
They made zone locking slightly easier too and the day of that patch Order managed to get to a fortress on Ironfist. Patch 1.1 also comes with some really nice changes that have been a long time coming like Item linking, easier PQs in each chapter that you can 1-3 man, RvR influence system, rebalancing of stats on armor sets to stuff that makes sense...
The recent change to the client to make fortress battles bearable is also pretty nice. We got to test it out first hand that day and the game was actually very playable.
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
Thats way way too slow when 40 is just the tip of the ice berg. there are 40 more RP levels after level 40.
Sorry but I went back to WoW and at least there you can be L70 in under 4 days played and L80 in 48 hours play time after that if you know how to play.
WAR's PVE wasnt even fun.. it was a slow grind that made me ask why I play at all?
WoWs PVE and quests are so much fuller and more fun and the grind to at least attain max level is very minimal.
now yes at 80 there are some rep grind now.. but they arnt mandatory anymore.. so if you dont care about some shiny purple items and receipes etc you dont have to do them.
anyway.. I fully uninstalled WAR just the other day.
Maybe if they survive a year and some changes to leveling curves and PVE come around I'll give it a second look.. for now though Blizz has my monthy fee back on 4 accounts.
Originally posted by: tsolin01
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
Originally posted by: Sutareteiru
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: tsolin01
While the overall population of WAR has certainly declined, as long as you play on a populated server, you won't really see it. They've been opening up transfers more instead of just merging servers for PR reasons more than anything I think. They've also silently stopped allowing new character creations on certain servers and allowed free transfers for inactive accounts to give them incentives to come back. There will probably be news of shutting down servers soon.
Although it's seems bad, the servers that are left are a lot better off than before.
I'm on Ironfist and with the recent round of transfers it's been a slight imbalance to the T4 pop but with more people around, there's a lot more things going on. Pretty much every day there are warbands of both sides out doing open RvR. The coordination with the different guilds and interactions on vent are pretty much what my initial vision of WAR was and it's shaping up nicely.
They made zone locking slightly easier too and the day of that patch Order managed to get to a fortress on Ironfist. Patch 1.1 also comes with some really nice changes that have been a long time coming like Item linking, easier PQs in each chapter that you can 1-3 man, RvR influence system, rebalancing of stats on armor sets to stuff that makes sense...
The recent change to the client to make fortress battles bearable is also pretty nice. We got to test it out first hand that day and the game was actually very playable.
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
Thats way way too slow when 40 is just the tip of the ice berg. there are 40 more RP levels after level 40.
Sorry but I went back to WoW and at least there you can be L70 in under 4 days played and L80 in 48 hours play time after that if you know how to play.
WAR's PVE wasnt even fun.. it was a slow grind that made me ask why I play at all?
WoWs PVE and quests are so much fuller and more fun and the grind to at least attain max level is very minimal.
now yes at 80 there are some rep grind now.. but they arnt mandatory anymore.. so if you dont care about some shiny purple items and receipes etc you dont have to do them.
anyway.. I fully uninstalled WAR just the other day.
Maybe if they survive a year and some changes to leveling curves and PVE come around I'll give it a second look.. for now though Blizz has my monthy fee back on 4 accounts.
For someone who is complaining about a grind, wouldnt 4 wow accounts be a bit much? it seems you may be suffering from the previous guy's statement about this game being an extension of a grind for you from a previous game. So far I love war, and I am an ex-wow player also, I think i enjoyed WoW the most back when Open PVP was rampant and i think this game cures my thirst for it. Sure there are rough edges in the current system, but the game is just a baby atm, let it grow up, WoW started with a ton of flaws, its been 4 or 5 yrs now and are still working on it. Anyways good luck with your 4 accounts on WoW !
Originally posted by: novasatori
People are still playing this??:laugh:
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Sutareteiru
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: tsolin01
While the overall population of WAR has certainly declined, as long as you play on a populated server, you won't really see it. They've been opening up transfers more instead of just merging servers for PR reasons more than anything I think. They've also silently stopped allowing new character creations on certain servers and allowed free transfers for inactive accounts to give them incentives to come back. There will probably be news of shutting down servers soon.
Although it's seems bad, the servers that are left are a lot better off than before.
I'm on Ironfist and with the recent round of transfers it's been a slight imbalance to the T4 pop but with more people around, there's a lot more things going on. Pretty much every day there are warbands of both sides out doing open RvR. The coordination with the different guilds and interactions on vent are pretty much what my initial vision of WAR was and it's shaping up nicely.
They made zone locking slightly easier too and the day of that patch Order managed to get to a fortress on Ironfist. Patch 1.1 also comes with some really nice changes that have been a long time coming like Item linking, easier PQs in each chapter that you can 1-3 man, RvR influence system, rebalancing of stats on armor sets to stuff that makes sense...
The recent change to the client to make fortress battles bearable is also pretty nice. We got to test it out first hand that day and the game was actually very playable.
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
Thats way way too slow when 40 is just the tip of the ice berg. there are 40 more RP levels after level 40.
Sorry but I went back to WoW and at least there you can be L70 in under 4 days played and L80 in 48 hours play time after that if you know how to play.
WAR's PVE wasnt even fun.. it was a slow grind that made me ask why I play at all?
WoWs PVE and quests are so much fuller and more fun and the grind to at least attain max level is very minimal.
now yes at 80 there are some rep grind now.. but they arnt mandatory anymore.. so if you dont care about some shiny purple items and receipes etc you dont have to do them.
anyway.. I fully uninstalled WAR just the other day.
Maybe if they survive a year and some changes to leveling curves and PVE come around I'll give it a second look.. for now though Blizz has my monthy fee back on 4 accounts.
For someone who is complaining about a grind, wouldnt 4 wow accounts be a bit much? it seems you may be suffering from the previous guy's statement about this game being an extension of a grind for you from a previous game. So far I love war, and I am an ex-wow player also, I think i enjoyed WoW the most back when Open PVP was rampant and i think this game cures my thirst for it. Sure there are rough edges in the current system, but the game is just a baby atm, let it grow up, WoW started with a ton of flaws, its been 4 or 5 yrs now and are still working on it. Anyways good luck with your 4 accounts on WoW !
2 Accounts are mine.. and 2 are Kats.. she tried War as well and we both said the same things.. and both cancelled our accounts.
We are already raiding top level content in WoW 3 weeks after release.
we put the same amount of time into WAR and were barely into level 25 and RR10 becuase noone was PVPing on our servers and BGs never popped up.
the PVP areas were fun.. the classes were balanced.. but PVE sucked FAT ROCKs. and the leveling curve was hellacious.
WoW.. with 8 70s between us never ever has felt like a grind.
the exp rolls nicely and they keep you entertained while its going on.
I run 2 accounts only because I can run 2 accounts at the same time on the same machine.
Kat has 2 because she inherited a account from a friend.
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: tsolin01
The "grind" to 40 is largely exaggerated because the ones complaining about it are the ones already bored of MMOs in general. You're already desensitized to the content as soon as you play so it feels like an extension of the grind from other MMOs. Playing 3-4 times a week with about 20-25 hours a week of playtime, you can manage to get to 40 in probably a month and a half. To me that's reasonable.
I have no problem leveling in Northrend currently. WAR just screwed up the same way Shadowbane screwed up. They offer this PvP experience but still force you to dredge through shitty PvE content to get there. Granted WARs PvE was better than Shadowbanes but then again staring at a wall for 4 days /stared would be more exciting than Shadowbane's PvE so I guess that's not saying a lot.