Warcraft the Movie

[lupi]

Per warcraft 3, grom and goel were about 25 years apart in age. Also the fel turns Orcs red or green, a more muted brown is the unaffected skin tone.

 

[Zeze]

You got that backwards. Fel corruption turns the orcs green.

No, that's the retconn made last year. Warcraft 3 (15 years ago) established that pure orcs were green originally, and they turned RAGING red once corrupted by fel.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fel...AUICCgB&biw=802&bih=626#imgrc=zq_LCpyrpjo-NM:

 

[JTsyo]

this is amazing - only 10% of it's WW gross is domestic.

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $31,191,525 10.0%
+ Foreign: $280,500,000 90.0%
= Worldwide: $311,691,525

How does that compare to WOW subscription?

 

[Aikouka]

Now, if we're really going to complain about lore inaccuracies, we should talk about dem brows! Every WarCraft nerd knows that Thrall is the only Orc with eyebrows! I recall them even asking Metzen about why he is the only one a few years ago at BlizzCon, and I think his answer was something along the lines of it making him look a bit more human. Anyway, all of the Orcs in the movie have eyebrows, which is a travesty of justice!

Per warcraft 3, grom and goel were about 25 years apart in age. Also the fel turns Orcs red or green, a more muted brown is the unaffected skin tone.

Isn't the retcon that exposure to fel turned the Orcs green, but actually becoming a Fel Orc is what makes them red? But yeah... brown is how the Mag'har in TBC were depicted given their unsullied state.

 

[lupi]

No, that's the retconn made last year. Warcraft 3 (15 years ago) established that pure orcs were green originally, and they turned RAGING red once corrupted by fel.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fel...AUICCgB&biw=802&bih=626#imgrc=zq_LCpyrpjo-NM:

Originally, all orcs were brown-skinned, ranging from a bark-like brown to reddish-brown. However, with the exception of the isolated Mag'har, their bodies reacted to their exposure to warlock magic once it was introduced by Gul'dan. All orcs with warlocks in their clan found their skin slowly turning green before they were ever offered the blood of the demon Mannoroth.[50]

The first orcs to drink the blood of a pit lord rapidly completed their transition to green skin.[50] Further drinking the blood, or possibly the blood of any demon, will change their skin again from green to scarlet, transforming them into chaos orcs or fel orcs. Orcs that drink Mannoroth's blood obtained gray marks in their green skin.[citation needed] Through certain rituals this state is reversible, not only restoring the orc’s sanity but their previous green tone as well.[52] No green-skinned orc has ever managed to return to a completely uncorrupted state.

With World of Warcraft, orcs of the Blackrock, Black Tooth Grin and (with Cataclysm) Dragonmaw clans have grey-green or grey skin, differentiating them from the rest of the orcish race. The Blackrock orcs' skin has apparently darkened due to years of dwelling within the dwarven cities within Blackrock Mountain.[53]

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The change of skin colour from brown to green appears to be genetic as Thrall, who had little direct exposure to warlock magic until recently, has had green skin from birth, and none of the Frostwolf clan, who have eschewed fel magic the longest (bar the Mag'har) have younger, brown-skinned members. It would also explain why it does not appear to reverse with time, as neither Drek'Thar of the Frostwolves nor Varok Saurfang of Durotar have regained the brown skin of their youth despite decades with little or no contact with warlocks.

Tides of War revealed that Blackrock clan orcs developed grey skin due to years of living underground. When this change occurred, or whether it affected all clan members is not made clear. There is no mention of the Blackrock clan being anything other than green-skinned before World of Warcraft. Orgrim Doomhammer and Blackhand have never been shown as grey-skinned. However, Warlords of Draenor and the Blackhand comic depicts Blackhand, Orgrim and the Blackrock orcs with grey skin. Eitrigg was noted as green-skinned in Of Blood and Honor and has been like-wise depicted in art, but being a Blackrock orc he is shown in World of Warcraft as grey-skinned, as is his son Ariok. This is despite him leaving the clan at the end of the Second War, and never returning to Blackrock Mountain. The Black Tooth Grin, which did not dwell in Hordemar during the Second War[54] and only reunited with the Blackrock following it, have the same skin tones as their brethren.

The Dragonmaw orcs of the Wetlands were originally pale green, but were changed in Cataclysm to grey. It's unknown whether their grey colouration is the result of genetics or (like the Blackrock orcs) years of dwelling in Grim Batol. The Dragonmaw might even deliberately change the colour of their skin with dyes. The earlier choice of pale green skin may have represent differences in skin tone between clans. Grey skin tones are also often used for orcish cultists, and might represent sickliness, similar to the grayish-purple skin of human and gnomish cultists. The Dragonmaw chieftain Zuluhed retains his green skin in Cataclysm, though this may have been an oversight.

The nature of the change in skin colour when corrupted is considerably different from that of other fel-touched races. Felblood elves and eredar change from their original skin tones straight to the extremes (for orcs, red), and don’t appear to have a middle-ground.





Other than visually, the earlier Warcraft games do very little on describing the orc color condition. Written material dating much further back than "retconned last year" have described the many properties on this topic.

 

[twinrider1]

Alright, this thread's too long. Let's do this............Leeroyyyyyyyyy Jenkins

 

[lupi]

Sadly looks like it didn't make enough for the studio to pay for the effects to include the missing footage in the disc release.

 

[Sonikku]

booooooo

Why such a flop in the US? I guess because it's about 5 years too late.

 

[OutHouse]

booooooo

Why such a flop in the US? I guess because it's about 5 years too late.

yea pretty much this. 5 years ago i was a hardcore player since BC, had a great guild and did lots of raids (Kara is still my all time favorite) and i would have been first in line at my local theater to see this. When pandaland came around i started to lose interest and when the garrisons came to be, I gave it a chance but i had to hang it up.

MOONGUARD FOREVER!

 

[lupi]

Think the idiotic critics crapping all over it because it wasn't (insert other film here) kept a lot of the audience away. While the first 20 minutes could have used a better edit or reshoots, it was extremely enjoyable after that and the orc side even in the opening was great. Just the humans on Azeroth at the beginning felt lost in what they were doing.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Think the idiotic critics crapping all over it because it wasn't (insert other film here) kept a lot of the audience away. While the first 20 minutes could have used a better edit or reshoots, it was extremely enjoyable after that and the orc side even in the opening was great. Just the humans on Azeroth at the beginning felt lost in what they were doing.

Pros:

•Action/Fight scenes were awesome
•Orcs (while CGI) looked pretty fierce/scary

Cons:
•Dialogue was atrocious (felt like straight to home DVD movies/B move actors/writing)
•First hour was poorly put together, jumping all over. If you didn't know the basic lore behind warcraft, you'd be really confused.

 

[Aikouka]

Sadly looks like it didn't make enough for the studio to pay for the effects to include the missing footage in the disc release.

That's a bummer as those scenes sound like they would've helped fix some of the issues with the movie.

Think the idiotic critics crapping all over it because it wasn't (insert other film here) kept a lot of the audience away. While the first 20 minutes could have used a better edit or reshoots, it was extremely enjoyable after that and the orc side even in the opening was great. Just the humans on Azeroth at the beginning felt lost in what they were doing.

Sometimes, it's that initial impression that's going to sour people. Ultimately, this movie would live and die by its critical reception as being deemed a "video game movie" without any other reason to see it (i.e. A-list cast) means people are going to be extremely scrutinous.

 

[Sonikku]

That's a bummer as those scenes sound like they would've helped fix some of the issues with the movie.

These are my thoughts exactly. Case in point; kingdom in heaven.

 

[Naer]

Did this movie bring people back to playing wc3 ft?

 

[lupi]

One of the deleted clips to be on the disc release.

 

[lupi]

The target price went from 13 to 30 on the 4K version, but my preorder still pending.

Story about recent director interview with nice still.

http://screenrant.com/warcraft-2-movie-director-return/

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Did this movie bring people back to playing wc3 ft?

Why Frozen Throne? It has nothing to do with that story like, at all.

 

[Aikouka]

The target price went from 13 to 30 on the 4K version, but my preorder still pending.

Did your order also get pushed back about two weeks?

 

[lupi]

Did your order also get pushed back about two weeks?

Mine says expected arrival Fri, Sep 30 - Tue, Oct 4.

 

[daxzy]

yea pretty much this. 5 years ago i was a hardcore player since BC, had a great guild and did lots of raids (Kara is still my all time favorite) and i would have been first in line at my local theater to see this.

Yes it did miss its window by about 5 years. However, lets not get around the fact that this movie has a lot of flaws. Transition scenes were cut (likely studio's fault). A lot of sub-stories to follow. Biggest criticisms were the human actors and Garona in terms of acting ability.

Overall, it's probably a mediocre movie, certainly didn't deserve the low RT rating or critic bashing for no reason than "it's not LOTR".

 

[lupi]

Just got charge/shipping confirmation for my 4k disc from target, $13 price was good.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Just got charge/shipping confirmation for my 4k disc from target, $13 price was good.

Ugh should have bought it back then. Paid $26 for mine.

 

[lupi]

Ugh should have bought it back then. Paid $26 for mine.

 

[Aikouka]

As mentioned in the PC Gaming thread, the in-game content was a nice surprise. It effectively made the price of the movie pretty much insignificant.

 

[lupi]

If you hadn't purchased yet or missed out on the target offer, Frys has the 4K version on sale for $20.