Warm - IBM 60GXP 60GB Hard Drive $99.95 at Outpost

kof

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WARNING!!
check here
lot's of piss poor press for ibm drives.
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Rastini

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I have this exact drive in my computer right now. It's worked great for me. I have heard that the 75GXP series of IBM drives had quality issues, but the 60GXP's have had a better reputation.

Also, NewEgg has this drive (OEM) for $107 shipped.
 

littletemple

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You can get the d740x maxtor 60Gb for 106 shipped at newegg. ATA-133 is always better for later upgrades.
 

greg

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Any company that puts out a drive --any drive -- that even THEY will tell you to run only half the day gets the boot from me.
 

csc2

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Wow that review is something. For the record I have a 60GXP and I run my PC 24/7 and haven't had any problems yet.

It is much quieter than my 7200 RPM Maxtor drives through. Those things sound like jet planes when they are on!

 

saltedeggman

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well, its heat-related so, if you have enough ventilation in your case, that might lengthen the life those suckers
 

Pothead

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I have one of those 75xgp series. Many people had problems with it overheating and data corruption, hence the lawsuit or w/e it is. I had my drive for a year now and have NOT had that problem BUT the driving is now making a whining sound so I gotta get IBM to replace it but so far they won't since the noise is not a real operating issue and the tests showed the drive as healthy...rat bastards
 

Scrounger

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IBM and hard drives -- Just say no!

Is your data really worth taking like a 1 in 10 chance that it will be lost? I bought two IBM drives and one wiped out my RAID 0 array with bad sectors. Only hard drive in the last 10 years that failed on me, and I've got some Maxtors that have been running since 1 gig was top of the line. I'd take something with 2% less performance and better reliability any day. To all you naysayers who had no problems: you can't do a valid reliability study on a population of one or two. Look around on the web if you don't believe there is a real problem.
 

Dre

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I've been buying IBM harddrives for 3-4 years now. I've never had one die on me.
 

psianime

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I have the IBM 60GXP 60GB HD. No problems yet. I bought it 2 months ago from dell and I run my computer on 24/7. I have a fan blowing on both of my HDs in my Antec case to keep them cool. IBM drives are really quite with nice seek times.
 

kof

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I Posted above, butt
I PERSONALLY manage only about 30 computers.
I had gone to IBM for QUIET and RELIABLE drives (cost was slightly more). I was dismayed to find out their reliability dropped in the last few years, and now they (IBM) are saying "don't run 24/7" "only 333 hours/month".
That's like buying a freakin car and being told "don't drive for more than 8 hours".
PLUS - THE DAMN 333 NUMBER!!
That looks like some dumbo thought there was 1,000 hours/month and divided by 3!!!
 

alphatarget1

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seriously
2 of my IBM drives f***ed up. No more IBM for me

I do run a raid 0 setup for my server with IBM drives... guess i shouldn't afterall
 

DJP

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I'm never buying an IBM drive ever again. I had a 40 gig IBM drive that died on me once. They sent me a replacement. The replacement is currenly dying now-- loud noises coming from the drive, stutters when copying things with big thunk noises when it freezes, nasty clicking and whining noises again. Not a good sign. Good thing I have a few other drives to move all my important stuff off before it kicks the bucket in a few days. IBM does a lot of things very well but hard drives is not one of them.
 

Rkonster

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2 of my 4 IBM 75GXP's have died.....it seems that the drive will either work for a really long time reliably, or just die. No more IBM for me.
 

ChefJoe

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I've been using 2 30 gig IBM 75GXP drives in raid 0 for like a year and a half now and only once did one of the drives start to make the clicking noise. I powered down, gave the case a nice tap (slight kick) and turned it back on. Never had any bad sectors with em either.

They do get hot so I mounted a 7volt modded 80mm fan in front of the drives and that seems to work great. My guess is IBM never quite realized how little ventilation most cases have and never thought to warn people to cool these things.


I couldn't get around tax in ohio, but newegg didn't have tax... came to $107.
newegg's 60GXP
 

dajo

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2 of the 3 75gxps I owned died on me, not to mention numerous re-partitionings/re-formattings which caused massive data loss - then one of the replacements they sent died on me too! That time IBM sent me a 60gxp which I immediately sold on eBay.

It'll be a long time before I own another IBM drive, especially now that it's come out that they knew the 75gxps were defective and covered it up.

Good price though.
 

xDrAGoNx

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ok, i've had one of these drives and i loved it... YAH..FOR THE 2 MONTHS IT WORKED! It died while my brother was playin a game of CS.

Thought it was just an OS crash, had to format... took forever because the drive had developed like 20 mb worth of bad sectors! This was one of the worst experiences i've ever had with a hard drive. I had kept my case open, but i guess that was not enough to keep it cool.

Besides that... it performed really well, just make sure you got a nice hdd cooler on that sucker. no more IBM hard drives for me until they up the reliablity factor... Anyone know the relative reliablity of 120gxp's? are they any better?
 

LuNoTiCK

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IBM SUCKS... END of story.

Go for something else, anything else. IBM drives suck, IBM RMA sucks, everything about IBM sucks.
 

Squalish2357

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<rant>

IBM in the last year has come under fire for having failure rates several times that of competitors.

The failure rates are still small(<10% by all counts) and the vast majority of users have never had any problems with the drives. The problem is that because these fail so much more than competitors, A majority of people who have had any drives fail on them have had IBM drives fail on them. This turns any HDD advice column that deals with failed drives into an anti-IBM site.

In a Storagereview.com interview recently, they told them that their new 120gxp line should not be used for more than 8 hours a day. As many people leave their drives on for a majority of the day, this angered a whole hell of a lot of people, and doomed them in the computer-enthusiest market. The 8 hours thing was probably just a precaution so they could say to the people complaining about failure rates "You used it out of spec and voided the warranty," or just to rebuke allegations of bad drive quality. Even so, I will not be buying from them anytime soon, as you can get superior products for less in most cases.

When you were buying from them, more than a year ago, you were buying for a good, solid drive from a brand you knew would still be around in 10 years. 75gxp's were fine drives, probably some of the best on the market when they came out, but nothing stood out, there were no killer features. They were dominant mostly because other drive manufacturers were often(In the mainstream consumer/home power user market) distant also-rans. IBM used to be the Intel of the HDD market. You were buying mostly on name. In the last year more and more HD manufacturers have made better and better drives, and because of the gxp reliability issue and the 8 hours thing, IBM's brand name has been dirtied. There is simply little reason to buy from them anymore over other, better drives.

</rant>
Personally, I will not be buying from them anytime soon, I can get a drive thats less likely to fail on me from somewhere else. I just do not need that headache.
Still an OK deal though, 7200rpm 60GB anything is good at $100.
 
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