WARNING: Micro Center Motherboard Scam

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buzzsaw13

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What a coincidence, I just got back from exchanging a non posting board+cpu from microcenter. Board would not post and tested everything, and all signs pointed to the mobo or the cpu. I go in and tell the guy I'd like it exchanged or tested, and the instant the guy takes the board out not even two seconds of just glancing at the board he tells me, "I see a bent pin on the board." Now, at first I'm skeptical since the guy just glances at it and isn't even close to the board to see it, he must have better than 20/20 vision to notice something like that instantly. He says I would be unable to exchange the board because of said bent pin and that I must have dropped the CPU onto the pins or something. I told him he must be out of his freaking mind because I don't see any bent pins and I told him that even if there was a bent pin, it must have came like that out of the box. He interjects with, "I think I see another bent pin." RIDICULOUS. He calls out the tech guy there (the only one working) and tells me it will take about half an hour for him to verify that the board is dead.

2 hours later the tech guy comes out and says that both the board and CPU are dead. Good news is that he will let us exchange both of them for me. So he says someone will be grabbing the replacements for us in a second and the customer service rep will do the paperwork. After standing there for about half an hour a guy comes from the front of the store with my board+cpu and just drops everything on the table where the customer service rep is. I just want to get the hell out of there because I just spent over 3 hours on something that would have taken me less than 10 minutes to get done at Fry's. I pop in the board and cpu, and I get no post, same error code that isn't listed anywhere. Now I've got to go through the nightmare of Micro Center customer service again over the weekend.
 

Eddie313

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Rule of thumb If customers can open the box I Always Look in the box and see if everything its there. Now if it is something like a Motherboard or has a serial # I always match the # to the box/Board/Receipt. Even GPU makers say its on you to make sure the Serial # matches the Card/Box/Receipt. And did you bother to ask MC if that SKU/Serial # on the box was bought and then returned?
 

iluvdeal

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The board was sold to me as new. I looked in the box before I purchased it for any obvious signs, but didn't see anything major. I probably should have noticed that the CPU cover was missing, but I guess I don't do enough builds to know if those are necessarily included 100% of the time. I only upgrade my motherboard once or twice a year at most.

So the board was sealed and shrink wrapped? For any new product, I would never think of ripping the packaging open to check the product is there at the cash register, who does that? So I'm not sure what else you could have done here.

I assume you got the correct mobo model just wrong serial number, so it sounds like someone attempted an install with it, it didn't work, so he swapped boards? If MC is anything like Fry's, they have you down in their system as the buyer of the mobo of the serial number written on the box. I assume whoever swapped your board bought the mobo you have now first, and their name is listed in their system as the buyer associated with the serial number on your board. Maybe you can nicely ask the manager to do an internal check on this to see if he can trace the serial to the buyer? If it was an employee which it sounds like it is since your board appeared new, the manager can asks the employee to bring the board to match serial numbers and if he can't, that'll prove your case.

For plan B, I'd ask someone who bought the board and installed it for their CPU cover. There's a ton of people on SlickDeals who got it on this deal, maybe one of them would be willing to help. I'm sure if you tell them your story, some person out there would take some pity on you and send you the cover so you can try a warranty claim.
 

yhelothar

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I've bent plenty of pins on these boards before. Just bend it back and you'll likely be fine. It has always worked for me at least.
 

pcgeek101

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Yeah, I would normally talk to them to figure out what's going on, but at this point I think the best thing to do is continue going down the route of pursuing the complaint with the BBB. The managers were set in stone with their decision not to replace the board because of supposed abuse, but they had no way of proving that I damaged the board. Why? Because I didn't damage the board ... someone else did, and swapped boxes with it.

I've filed with the BBB earlier on Monday, so hopefully I will hear something back from them. The news agencies are aware of the issue, as are several discussion forums.

I already bought a replacement board from Fry's (see earlier post) because I need to get my machine back up and running ASAP, and it worked great immediately (using the CPU I bought from Micro Center).

All I need now is to get a refund from Micro Center, and an apology for their refusal to even consider that perhaps they were in the wrong.
 

djnsmith7

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Apr 13, 2004
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Lecturing this guy about his wallet is a moot point & I don't think he needs people on internet forums to play Dad.

OP, if I were in your shoes, I would try to work with Asus on this (not saying you haven't), but call Asus & see if they'll find some middle ground with you. This is a very unfortunate situation & to be honest, doesn't sound like MC's going to do the right thing. I'm not a huge fan, even though they're only a 20 minute drive, I'd much rather go to Fry's. IMO, the only thing MC has going for them are their CPU deals. This is just another reason for me to shop elsewhere (Fry's & Newegg).

I've done RMA's in the past with Asus & never included the CPU socket cover, so that shouldn't be a big deal.
 

Eddie313

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Lecturing this guy about his wallet is a moot point & I don't think he needs people on internet forums to play Dad.

OP, if I were in your shoes, I would try to work with Asus on this (not saying you haven't), but call Asus & see if they'll find some middle ground with you. This is a very unfortunate situation & to be honest, doesn't sound like MC's going to do the right thing. I'm not a huge fan, even though they're only a 20 minute drive, I'd much rather go to Fry's. IMO, the only thing MC has going for them are their CPU deals. This is just another reason for me to shop elsewhere (Fry's & Newegg).

I've done RMA's in the past with Asus & never included the CPU socket cover, so that shouldn't be a big deal.

Like I said before anybody in that situation should of ask if there was a return on the box/serial #
If there was then you have something go on and they would get something worked out.
And for microcenter's stand point they do not know if it was him or somebody else.
 

aigomorla

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I've bent plenty of pins on these boards before. Just bend it back and you'll likely be fine. It has always worked for me at least.



Your telling me on a new intel platform you bent pins and there easy to bend back?



The funny thing is we hashed it with intel in regards to the pins on the board.
Intel said, would you rather replace the board or the cpu?

To intel's reply since they sell way more cpu's then boards, its a no brainer.

Also the density of pins on the cpu make it impossible for them to be on the cpu end. This is why the pins on the board are in an angle and not straight up.

A lot of research was done in the pins and pin socket, and its not something u want to take tweezers to in repairing unless u have very stable hands, and a good eye.

A bad pin can mean missing ram, and unstable cpu, or a non booting one.
 

KlokWyze

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Microcenter is a little disorganized and has pretty poor customer service. I love their range of products, prices, etc., but they are just flat out ghetto sometimes. You shouldn't have a problem returning it, but it sucks you have to deal with it.

lol just read the rest... bastards!!! >|
 
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WaTaGuMp

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My P5K-E got bent pins, that's why I now have my GB board. I tried to fix them with a magnifying glass and a pin, couldn't do it. They are just a HUGE thing to try and get back to perfect.
 

harbin

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So the board was sealed and shrink wrapped? For any new product, I would never think of ripping the packaging open to check the product is there at the cash register, who does that? So I'm not sure what else you could have done here.

I assume you got the correct mobo model just wrong serial number, so it sounds like someone attempted an install with it, it didn't work, so he swapped boards? If MC is anything like Fry's, they have you down in their system as the buyer of the mobo of the serial number written on the box. I assume whoever swapped your board bought the mobo you have now first, and their name is listed in their system as the buyer associated with the serial number on your board. Maybe you can nicely ask the manager to do an internal check on this to see if he can trace the serial to the buyer? If it was an employee which it sounds like it is since your board appeared new, the manager can asks the employee to bring the board to match serial numbers and if he can't, that'll prove your case.

For plan B, I'd ask someone who bought the board and installed it for their CPU cover. There's a ton of people on SlickDeals who got it on this deal, maybe one of them would be willing to help. I'm sure if you tell them your story, some person out there would take some pity on you and send you the cover so you can try a warranty claim.


I haven't read the whole thread yet.

I pciked up my combo this noon, haven't got a chance to test it yet. But the motherboard I got is not sealed or shrink wrapped. I noticed that when I got out of the store. I did take the mobo out since it's not wrapped to have an inspection. It appears good. I think I'd better be very cautious tonight when I test them!
 

Hooptymobile

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So I read your forum post about your situation. I have the Asus P8P67-PRO that I purchased from my local MC store (actually a 40 mile drive). Anyways, very sorry to hear of your situation and hope a resolution can be resolved between your purchase and the company. I haven't built my new computer yet (still in box & bag) but here's my point: When I went into MC on release and bought my cpu & mobo the guy working at the dept. was telling me I could bring it back within 30 days "no questions asked'. I told him I was wanting the EVGA P67 SLI and he told me I could purchase the ASUS return within 30 days and get the EVGA P67 (hopefully if its in store by then). I told him I would kinda feel bad about just using the product then exchanging it; and he said they take products back all the time, that it would go back to ASUS and they would resell it as a re-certified product.

So anyways after reading your post about the mobo; Im hoping I won't have some crazy situation happen to me if I decide to return it for exchange like you. I recognize the guy from my past few visits as I suspect he is possibly over his dept and not just some new 'joe' working there and he recognizes me too (as well as a few other of his associates) so I don't think he's going anywhere and the others heard what he said to me so I have some assurance with the floor associates at the store.

Still we will see once I do return it within 30 days. Actually after discovering that the new ASUS P67 mobos incorporate a new 'user friendly' version of 'BIOS' that somewhat made me not want to even attempt to build with this mobo. Guess I should've researched more but I was in rush to get the Core i7 2600K (purchased last of 2 in stock!
 
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smakme7757

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I would suggest that anyone who shops at a store often to have an account with them and place all purchases on that account. It's proof that you have been a loyal customer so when somthing like this happens you have a history with them which gives you some more barganing power.

If they see you have been a good customer without any complains they are more likely to believe you.
 
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faxon

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This is extremely interesting. I had to fix a board with a bent pin and no cpu socket cover that was the EXACT SAME MODEL at frys on monday so we could process a customer return (the pin was fine afterward and the board booted up), but it was also missing the socket cover. this is just shoddy on ASUS' part and it sounds like they're having some quality control issues on these boards right now
 

smakme7757

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This is extremely interesting. I had to fix a board with a bent pin and no cpu socket cover that was the EXACT SAME MODEL at frys on monday so we could process a customer return (the pin was fine afterward and the board booted up), but it was also missing the socket cover. this is just shoddy on ASUS' part and it sounds like they're having some quality control issues on these boards right now

It's not surprising. All it takes is one factory worker to be a little tired and small things like the socket cover get forgoten. It's unfortunate as it does cost the consumer money, but these things do happen.
 

yhelothar

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Your telling me on a new intel platform you bent pins and there easy to bend back?



The funny thing is we hashed it with intel in regards to the pins on the board.
Intel said, would you rather replace the board or the cpu?

To intel's reply since they sell way more cpu's then boards, its a no brainer.

Also the density of pins on the cpu make it impossible for them to be on the cpu end. This is why the pins on the board are in an angle and not straight up.

A lot of research was done in the pins and pin socket, and its not something u want to take tweezers to in repairing unless u have very stable hands, and a good eye.

A bad pin can mean missing ram, and unstable cpu, or a non booting one.

Facepalm back at ya.
I never said they were easy to bend back, but it's certainly doable.
I had one that had 6 of the LGA pins bent, one of the metal contact plates was completely flipped over.
I just took a needle plier and worked them back into place. Reinstalled the CPU, and things was working fine. Come to think of it, the 6 pins was fairly easy. YMMV though.
 

Nebor

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When I saw that you had to run "to get my wallet, because I had forgotten it at home," I thought, this guy might be a putz. Then I saw "I called ... the Westmont, IL police department also," and that pretty much confirmed it.
 

Golgatha

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I'd leave the motherboard in their possession and file a chargeback with my CC company. However, calling the police was useless and a pretty douche like thing to do. No wonder they weren't willing to work with you.
 

Zstream

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Can someone post a picture of the pins? I am lost in the conversation
 

Ariae

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When I saw that you had to run "to get my wallet, because I had forgotten it at home," I thought, this guy might be a putz. Then I saw "I called ... the Westmont, IL police department also," and that pretty much confirmed it.

+1

People need to realize how much money retail stores loose to newb PC hobbyists. I've seen the Microcenter on Elston in Chicago take back a 775 motherboard w/ thermal paste caked into the pins... The guy thought he was suppose to put thermal paste on the pins first then mount the CPU into the socket...

So I'm betting the issue in this thread originated w/ end user error.
 
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