Warp questions

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: ggnl
lol @ the people seriously answering this question

I have you ever watched a Star Destroyer vs The Enterprise debate? Those are crazy! (Destroyer owns)

Errr..it does?

Do I have to remind you that a A-Wing Starfighter brought down an entire Star Destroyer on it's down?

In Return of the Jedi?

Not quite. It took a good part of the fleet to take out the main deflector generator. Then by chance alone a singe A-Wing crashed into the bridge...


/me needs to go eat a steak and kill something... feeling a little too nerdy right now.

Wasn't the main deflector generator inside the core of the Death Star?

So by rights, it had no effects on the defense system mechanism of the star destroying.

Each ship has it's own deflector generator. Remember the large ball outside the star destroyer that the "focused all firepower" on right before the a-wing crashed?

Oh yeah, I remember that. Why was that so easy to destroy?

Were the star destroyers shooting at any of the rebels? It's been a while since I've seen eposide 6

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: ggnl
lol @ the people seriously answering this question

I have you ever watched a Star Destroyer vs The Enterprise debate? Those are crazy! (Destroyer owns)

Errr..it does?

Do I have to remind you that a A-Wing Starfighter brought down an entire Star Destroyer on it's down?

In Return of the Jedi?

Not quite. It took a good part of the fleet to take out the main deflector generator. Then by chance alone a singe A-Wing crashed into the bridge...


/me needs to go eat a steak and kill something... feeling a little too nerdy right now.

Wasn't the main deflector generator inside the core of the Death Star?

So by rights, it had no effects on the defense system mechanism of the star destroying.

Each ship has it's own deflector generator. Remember the large ball outside the star destroyer that the "focused all firepower" on right before the a-wing crashed?

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

Yeah but don't you find Star Wars (4,5,6) more interesting to talk about then Star Trek?

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

Yeah but don't you find Star Wars (4,5,6) more interesting to talk about then Star Trek?

Not really. Star Trek had multiple series with new new theories every episode. A lot more to talk about there.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

Yeah but don't you find Star Wars (4,5,6) more interesting to talk about then Star Trek?

Not really. Star Trek had multiple series with new new theories every episode. A lot more to talk about there.

I guess I should refer you to my first post, I can't stand star trek

Star Wars (the original series) is at least tolerable

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: ggnl
lol @ the people seriously answering this question

I have you ever watched a Star Destroyer vs The Enterprise debate? Those are crazy! (Destroyer owns)

Errr..it does?

Do I have to remind you that a A-Wing Starfighter brought down an entire Star Destroyer on it's down?

In Return of the Jedi?

Not quite. It took a good part of the fleet to take out the main deflector generator. Then by chance alone a singe A-Wing crashed into the bridge...


/me needs to go eat a steak and kill something... feeling a little too nerdy right now.

Wasn't the main deflector generator inside the core of the Death Star?

So by rights, it had no effects on the defense system mechanism of the star destroying.

Each ship has it's own deflector generator. Remember the large ball outside the star destroyer that the "focused all firepower" on right before the a-wing crashed?

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

lol @ you guys seriously discussing Star Destroyers

I do admit, however, that serious Star Wars discussions are far more excusable than Star Trek discussions. Lets face it, Star Trek is gaaay and Star Wars ruled.

 

[imported_M3]

Then how come when the warp engine goes off line when in warp the ship droppes from warp.
(In STar Trek the motion pic they fired a torpedo in warp) Warf's wife was in a torpedo that they cought wile in warp.

 

[amdforever2]

The warp field extends far enough out....to keep the torpedo in warp..........

Although usually in star trek you get the captain or first officer rather dramatically leaping to their feet and proclaiming "take us out of warp and come about" or some such command.

Fighting at warp is bad, evidently.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

They do have hyperspace and hyperdrives though. It's interesting to look at the technical differences of subspace and hyperspace. Where as all the other scifi shows used hyperspace, Star Trek was the pioneer in subspace.

Hyperspace is a method of creating a traveling tunnel in normal space, almost like a moving wormhole. The ship is drawn forward by this distortion and it's mass remains relative to it instead of the surrounding space. Instead subspace is another layer within space. Subspace fields create a bubble around the mass, and the movement of the field is what moves the bubble through space.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Just FYI.
The unit Warp is actually this;

Warp x= c^x
where c = speed of light.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Wow, bunch of semi-geeks...you are all unworthy.

Warp travel is possible by creating a bubble of subspace around a vessel. This subspace field is not bound by the laws of normal space, and thus can travel in a manner faster than the speed of light. It does not actually travel at that velocity, it's merely equivalent to it. The vessel has momentum only thru impulse engines which generate thrust at less than light speed levels. Specifically matter and anti-matter are allowed to mix to create high-energy plasma (the reaction is contained thru the use of dilithium crystals which create a highly energetic magnetic containment field). The high-energy plasma powers a series of warp coils which create the warp field around the ship.

There have been numerous instances of combat occuring at warp speed, which has always caused the science minded trekkie a bit of consternation. There are even contradictory concepts of so much as turning at warp speed...sometimes they say you can, somethimes they say you can't. Anyway, photon torpedos can travel at warp for limited distances, utilizing the deuterium/anti-deuterium reaction in much the same way a starship uses matter/anti-matter reactions. Because the normal rules of time/space do not apply to areas of subspace, it is conceivable that a torpedo who's natural (sub-light) momentum exceeds that of the firing vessel's would proceed in much the same manner as a standard torpedo of today...it would reach the maximum edge of the ships warp bubble, then use it's own warp field to continue towards the enemy vessel. Once entering the enemies warp bubble it would maintain it's initial launch velocity allowing it to travel within the subspace field and strike the enemy vessel where it would detonate.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

Yeah but don't you find Star Wars (4,5,6) more interesting to talk about then Star Trek?

Not really. Star Trek had multiple series with new new theories every episode. A lot more to talk about there.

True, but Star Wars does have some amazing books (Zahn is the man).

 

[torpid]

Hm... I thought that warp was actually just bending space together and then a normal engine is used to traverse the distance. However, that is what "folding space" is in dune more or less so I might be getting confused with all of the FTL mumbo jumbo.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: azazyel

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Jero

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

You guys are confusing a Star Destroyer (a Capital Ship) with the Death Star.

Nope Just watch ROTJ last night. But we have switch sci-fi shows. They don't have warp fields and drives in SW....

Yeah but don't you find Star Wars (4,5,6) more interesting to talk about then Star Trek?

Not really. Star Trek had multiple series with new new theories every episode. A lot more to talk about there.

True, but Star Wars does have some amazing books (Zahn is the man).

Zahn got old after about half a book. What the heck is up with him always using "the other" in conversations between people?

 

[apac]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Wow, bunch of semi-geeks...you are all unworthy.

Warp travel is possible by creating a bubble of subspace around a vessel. This subspace field is not bound by the laws of normal space, and thus can travel in a manner faster than the speed of light. It does not actually travel at that velocity, it's merely equivalent to it. The vessel has momentum only thru impulse engines which generate thrust at less than light speed levels. Specifically matter and anti-matter are allowed to mix to create high-energy plasma (the reaction is contained thru the use of dilithium crystals which create a highly energetic magnetic containment field). The high-energy plasma powers a series of warp coils which create the warp field around the ship.

There have been numerous instances of combat occuring at warp speed, which has always caused the science minded trekkie a bit of consternation. There are even contradictory concepts of so much as turning at warp speed...sometimes they say you can, somethimes they say you can't. Anyway, photon torpedos can travel at warp for limited distances, utilizing the deuterium/anti-deuterium reaction in much the same way a starship uses matter/anti-matter reactions. Because the normal rules of time/space do not apply to areas of subspace, it is conceivable that a torpedo who's natural (sub-light) momentum exceeds that of the firing vessel's would proceed in much the same manner as a standard torpedo of today...it would reach the maximum edge of the ships warp bubble, then use it's own warp field to continue towards the enemy vessel. Once entering the enemies warp bubble it would maintain it's initial launch velocity allowing it to travel within the subspace field and strike the enemy vessel where it would detonate.

Glyyyyyvenn!!!

 

[mchammer187]

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Just FYI.
The unit Warp is actually this;

Warp x= c^x
where c = speed of light.

i am pretty sure it is faster than that

cuz even at warp 10 they would take a year to travel to something 10 light years away

IIRC in Voyager they were something like 200,000 light years way from the alpha quadrant

edit nm


didnt see the ^

i am retarded

 

[CVSiN]

die uber trek geeks! take off the pointy ears and step away from the computer/TV and GO OUTSIDE!

 

[torpid]

Aha my geekdom pays off here. Warp numbers are exponential. Although it does change in some episodes, apparently the "geeks" at star trek consider warp 10 to be infinite speed. However there are some episodes where they go warp 11 and it's not back in time.

 

[ohtwell]

I've watched many episodes, and I don't recall them ever firing any torpedos, while at warp. I have only watched TNG and Voyager though. I'm not saying they haven't done it either. I'm just saying I don't recall that happening.


: ) Amanda

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
I've watched many episodes, and I don't recall them ever firing any torpedos, while at warp.


: ) Amanda

You'll find a listing of many episodes here.

Yes warp numbers are exponential since next generation. Before that they used a different calculation system. Warp 10 is theoretically the ability to be everywhere in the universe at the same moment in time. Transwarp allows travel faster than regular warp by linking two points in space absolutely, so they effectively become the same place for that instant. There have been numerous breakdowns to these definitions, for which speicific writers were heavily chastised. Suspended disbelief.

 

[rudder]

All those different episodes where they go back in time you would think in one of them they would have the enterprise blow up the klingons.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: ohtwell
I've watched many episodes, and I don't recall them ever firing any torpedos, while at warp.


: ) Amanda

You'll find a listing of many episodes here.

Most of those instances seemed to have happened on TOS, which I never watched. Very few happened during TNG and Voyager, so that might explain how I forgot.


: ) Amanda

 

[jjones]

Photon torpedoes travel at ludicrous speed when fired from a ship in warp.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: M3
In star trek, When in warp if you fire a photon torpedo. How does the torpedo stay on warp after it leaves your warp field?
I know there are episodes where they fir forward torpedos at warp and they stayed in warp.
So torpedos have there own warp engines?

Momentum with no friction. think about it.