Warren says withholding aid to Israel is ‘on the table’ to curb settlements

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brandonbull

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She sure did! Now see if you can’t figure out why what Warren is proposing is a good thing and what Trump was proposing is a crime.
Didn't know that asking a country to honor a treaty in investigating potential criminal quid pro quo by an elected official is a crime? I also think that there were efforts spurred by Trump to get the investigation reopened into Burisma before Biden announced his candidacy.
 
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thilanliyan

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Point out where Trump asked for dirt? So what the Dems are now claiming is anything that Trump does as President can be considered personal gain for campaign purposes?
You're right, he asked to investigate the Bidens to get their grandma's pie recipe, which is a secret.

Is there a shakes head emoji on the new forum?
 
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fskimospy

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Didn't know that asking a country to honor a treaty in investigating potential criminal quid pro quo by an elected official is a crime?

Oh, I see you're confused then. Trump attempted to trade foreign aid for politically motivated investigations of his enemies, which is definitely a crime. Does that clear things up for you? I mean it's not like Trump didn't know what he was doing, that's why he sent his dirtbag personal lawyer to do it instead of the FBI, you know, the agency that's actually in charge of that.

Then again if you sincerely believe Trump was concerned about corruption and wasn't trying to get dirt on his opponents then surely you can point to a single, solitary occasion where Trump has pressured the leader of another country to investigate corruption of someone who was NOT his political opponent?
 

Vic

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Didn't know that asking a country to honor a treaty in investigating potential criminal quid pro quo by an elected official is a crime?
It is a crime when there's zero evidence of any 'potential criminal quid pro quo' and the President's only real motivation for asking is because he's digging for dirt to use against a political opponent.
Yaknow what the only difference is between Republicans and Democrats today? Democrats still believe in holding their leaders accountable to the law, and Republicans don't.
 
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Vic

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You're right, he asked to investigate the Bidens to get their grandma's pie recipe, which is a secret.

Is there a shakes head emoji on the new forum?
BrandonBS gets his information the Q way, which is they make up stories together until they find one that fits into their collective emotional narrative.

Personal attacks will no longer be allowed in P&N.

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compuwiz1

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BrandonBS gets his information the Q way, which is they make up stories together until they find one that fits into their collective emotional narrative.

Wouldn't this response be considered a personal attack?
 

hal2kilo

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Make sure to hug the next 12 year old suicide bomber that shows up to your place.
Didn't know that asking a country to honor a treaty in investigating potential criminal quid pro quo by an elected official is a crime? I also think that there were efforts spurred by Trump to get the investigation reopened into Burisma before Biden announced his candidacy.
NM
 

Vic

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Wouldn't this response be considered a personal attack?
Feel free to bring that up with the mods in the appropriate way.

But if we're going to go down that route, then how is knowingly falsely accusing someone of being an antisemite, because they oppose the Israeli govt's policies, not a personal attack?
You want to play this game, try not to act hurt and surprised when I play back.
 

Jhhnn

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Point out where Trump asked for dirt? So what the Dems are now claiming is anything that Trump does as President can be considered personal gain for campaign purposes?

Being deliberately obtuse serves your cause not at all.
 

JEDIYoda

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You're right, he asked to investigate the Bidens to get their grandma's pie recipe, which is a secret.

Is there a shakes head emoji on the new forum?

More like a beat your head against a brick wall emoji is needed!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

feralkid

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Perhaps, but its time they stand on their own. They can easily do so.
Who made us their lifetime baby sitter?


I'm with you on that.

All of the warm regard I once held for Israel has been flushed away by their fascist behavior toward the Palestinians.

I do not want any of my tax dollars to be given to them anymore.
 
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KMFJD

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Warren just lost herself any chance of being POTUS......the damn Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot!
Leading Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Sunday indicated the US could withhold aid to Israel to force it to halt construction in settlements.

Asked during a political event in Iowa on her position on making aid conditional on stopping settlement expansion, the Massachusetts senator said “everything is on the table.

The US provides Israel with some $3.8 billion in military assistance annually.

“Right now, [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu says he is going to take Israel in a direction of increasing settlements. That does not move us toward a two-state solution,” Warren said.

“It is the official policy of the United States of America to support a two-state solution, and if Israel is moving in the opposite direction, then everything is on the table,” she said, then repeated: “Everything is on the table.”

Warren is currently neck and neck with former vice president Joe Biden in polls ahead of the Democratic primaries, and has recently led in some surveys. She is seen as a more liberal, left-leaning candidate than Biden on many issues.

In June Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, ranked third in the race, said he would “absolutely” consider dangling cuts to American aid to Israel in order to pressure Jerusalem.

However Sanders also said at the time that he would not make decisions that render Israel militarily vulnerable.

Military aid packages to Israel have steadily increased since the mid-1980s, when they were first offered, and are considered a linchpin of the US-Israel alliance. Few American lawmakers have challenged the handouts. In September 2016, then-president Barack Obama and Netanyahu signed a memorandum of understanding upping the figure from $3 billion annually to $3.8 billion annually for the next 10 years, despite frosty ties between the two.


The aid package is seen in Israel as key to helping it maintain its qualitative military edge over potential threats in the region.
We need to stop assisting that fascist Netanyahu
 

Indus

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Warren just lost herself any chance of being POTUS......the damn Democrats keep shooting themselves in the foot!
Leading Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren on Sunday indicated the US could withhold aid to Israel to force it to halt construction in settlements.

Asked during a political event in Iowa on her position on making aid conditional on stopping settlement expansion, the Massachusetts senator said “everything is on the table.

The US provides Israel with some $3.8 billion in military assistance annually.

“Right now, [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu says he is going to take Israel in a direction of increasing settlements. That does not move us toward a two-state solution,” Warren said.

“It is the official policy of the United States of America to support a two-state solution, and if Israel is moving in the opposite direction, then everything is on the table,” she said, then repeated: “Everything is on the table.”

Warren is currently neck and neck with former vice president Joe Biden in polls ahead of the Democratic primaries, and has recently led in some surveys. She is seen as a more liberal, left-leaning candidate than Biden on many issues.

In June Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, ranked third in the race, said he would “absolutely” consider dangling cuts to American aid to Israel in order to pressure Jerusalem.

However Sanders also said at the time that he would not make decisions that render Israel militarily vulnerable.

Military aid packages to Israel have steadily increased since the mid-1980s, when they were first offered, and are considered a linchpin of the US-Israel alliance. Few American lawmakers have challenged the handouts. In September 2016, then-president Barack Obama and Netanyahu signed a memorandum of understanding upping the figure from $3 billion annually to $3.8 billion annually for the next 10 years, despite frosty ties between the two.


The aid package is seen in Israel as key to helping it maintain its qualitative military edge over potential threats in the region.

That's okay the pro Israel crowd can sing kumbaya and celebrate Hannukah with the right wing neo nazi's who want to shoot up synagoges.

I'm sure that'll go over well. Better than realizing the Netanyahu government is corrupt as hell and we need to stop any aid to their bank accounts since the average Israeli doesn't even get 1 damn dollar.
 
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Paratus

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You're right, he asked to investigate the Bidens to get their grandma's pie recipe, which is a secret.

Is there a shakes head emoji on the new forum?
Don’t have a shakes head but
here’s the old V-bulletin roll eyes

https://i.imgur.com/oGUwQ4Y.gif
 
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