Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
they're too busy going after the other 9 to worry about that.
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
they're too busy going after the other 9 to worry about that.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
they're too busy going after the other 9 to worry about that.
Yeah, every time I turn around Obama's trying to quarter soldiers in my residence. Frankly, it's getting a bit old.
Originally posted by: eleison
I used to be even more anti-Obama.. but now a days when I see laid off people who use to be big Obama supporters (or still Obama supporters).. Maybe its wrong to feel this way.. But it makes me feel somewhat "satisfied".
Hey, people said that Obama was going to be bad for the economy. Whatever, right? Bankrupt those big bad companies (who by the way employee people)... Whatever.. Its like watching someone getting their arms twisted... you're waiting until they yell "Uncle", but they don't.. How much more arm twisting is needed until they yell? Who knows.. Its kind of sadistic in a way. Do they yell first or do they get their arms broken first? Who knows? I feel like an a bystander.. I want to say, "get over it.. your wrong.. move on. .and lets fix all this mess".. Instead, the person who is getting their arm twisted still refuses to capitulate. Oh, well, I may get hurt a bit in this economy, but I'm not going to be one who gets his arm broken for being obstinate.
Whatever happens in this economy, IMHO, will affect the Obama supports more than anyone. They are the one who elected him. They made their bed, now they sleep in it. So yea, I used to really be anti-Obama.. but now a little bit less. Karma baby....
Originally posted by: eleison
I used to be even more anti-Obama.. but now a days when I see laid off people who use to be big Obama supporters (or still Obama supporters).. Maybe its wrong to feel this way.. But it makes me feel somewhat "satisfied".
Hey, people said that Obama was going to be bad for the economy. Whatever, right? Bankrupt those big bad companies (who by the way employee people)... Whatever.. Its like watching someone getting their arms twisted... you're waiting until they yell "Uncle", but they don't.. How much more arm twisting is needed until they yell? Who knows.. Its kind of sadistic in a way. Do they yell first or do they get their arms broken first? Who knows? I feel like an a bystander.. I want to say, "get over it.. your wrong.. move on. .and lets fix all this mess".. Instead, the person who is getting their arm twisted still refuses to capitulate. Oh, well, I may get hurt a bit in this economy, but I'm not going to be one who gets his arm broken for being obstinate.
Whatever happens in this economy, IMHO, will affect the Obama supports more than anyone. They are the one who elected him. They made their bed, now they sleep in it. So yea, I used to really be anti-Obama.. but now a little bit less. Karma baby....
Originally posted by: Carmen813
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
I toally agree!!!
Plus those who might be ashamed the voted for Obama do not live in the real world!
Change takes time. Sure there will be hiccups and other issues and they might even need to try something different. If you expected immediate change then perhaps the problem is not with Obama but with your expectations!!
Change may take time, but apparently spending trillions of dollars and running up our debt takes no time at all, and any spending bills which cross his desk no matter how large, or how complex, get approved nearly immediately. Change may take time, paying off Obama's spending spree may take generations.
Guide to Fear No Evils Posts:
1.) Obama is a debt monger.
2.) Obama is a tool for the left.
3.) Lolchange.
4.) Faux outrage over future generations.
Seriously man, you've said the same thing in like 4 different posts today alone. We get it, you don't like him.
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Sawyer
Iif so, why? What has changed from the campaign to now for you to feel this way?
:laugh: You think people will willingly admit to being fooled or having buyer's remorse?
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
they're too busy going after the other 9 to worry about that.
There have been 27 amendments to the Constitution. What you're thinking of is the Bill of Rights.
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
they're too busy going after the other 9 to worry about that.
There have been 27 amendments to the Constitution. What you're thinking of is the Bill of Rights.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
Originally posted by: eleison
I used to be even more anti-Obama.. but now a days when I see laid off people who use to be big Obama supporters (or still Obama supporters).. Maybe its wrong to feel this way.. But it makes me feel somewhat "satisfied".
Hey, people said that Obama was going to be bad for the economy. Whatever, right? Bankrupt those big bad companies (who by the way employee people)... Whatever.. Its like watching someone getting their arms twisted... you're waiting until they yell "Uncle", but they don't.. How much more arm twisting is needed until they yell? Who knows.. Its kind of sadistic in a way. Do they yell first or do they get their arms broken first? Who knows? I feel like an a bystander.. I want to say, "get over it.. your wrong.. move on. .and lets fix all this mess".. Instead, the person who is getting their arm twisted still refuses to capitulate. Oh, well, I may get hurt a bit in this economy, but I'm not going to be one who gets his arm broken for being obstinate.
Whatever happens in this economy, IMHO, will affect the Obama supports more than anyone. They are the one who elected him. They made their bed, now they sleep in it. So yea, I used to really be anti-Obama.. but now a little bit less. Karma baby....
He said he was going to increase the deficit 400%, and give away several trillion dollars to banks at the taxpayers expense, and incur debt faster than all presidents in history combined? I missed that in his campaign speeches.Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: eleison
I used to be even more anti-Obama.. but now a days when I see laid off people who use to be big Obama supporters (or still Obama supporters).. Maybe its wrong to feel this way.. But it makes me feel somewhat "satisfied".
Hey, people said that Obama was going to be bad for the economy. Whatever, right? Bankrupt those big bad companies (who by the way employee people)... Whatever.. Its like watching someone getting their arms twisted... you're waiting until they yell "Uncle", but they don't.. How much more arm twisting is needed until they yell? Who knows.. Its kind of sadistic in a way. Do they yell first or do they get their arms broken first? Who knows? I feel like an a bystander.. I want to say, "get over it.. your wrong.. move on. .and lets fix all this mess".. Instead, the person who is getting their arm twisted still refuses to capitulate. Oh, well, I may get hurt a bit in this economy, but I'm not going to be one who gets his arm broken for being obstinate.
Whatever happens in this economy, IMHO, will affect the Obama supports more than anyone. They are the one who elected him. They made their bed, now they sleep in it. So yea, I used to really be anti-Obama.. but now a little bit less. Karma baby....
FYI: hose people were going to be laid-off regardless of who's in the White House.
Why so thick up there?
Originally posted by: eleison
I used to be even more anti-Obama.. but now a days when I see laid off people who use to be big Obama supporters (or still Obama supporters).. Maybe its wrong to feel this way.. But it makes me feel somewhat "satisfied".
Hey, people said that Obama was going to be bad for the economy. Whatever, right? Bankrupt those big bad companies (who by the way employee people)... Whatever.. Its like watching someone getting their arms twisted... you're waiting until they yell "Uncle", but they don't.. How much more arm twisting is needed until they yell? Who knows.. Its kind of sadistic in a way. Do they yell first or do they get their arms broken first? Who knows? I feel like an a bystander.. I want to say, "get over it.. your wrong.. move on. .and lets fix all this mess".. Instead, the person who is getting their arm twisted still refuses to capitulate. Oh, well, I may get hurt a bit in this economy, but I'm not going to be one who gets his arm broken for being obstinate.
Whatever happens in this economy, IMHO, will affect the Obama supports more than anyone. They are the one who elected him. They made their bed, now they sleep in it. So yea, I used to really be anti-Obama.. but now a little bit less. Karma baby....
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
I believe that Obama believe that he is doing what he believe is best for the country. However, from what I can see, what he did can not be possibility for the best of the country. I do nto hate Obama, I hate his policy. His main talking point every sincer the campaign are education, green energy, and free health care. They are sound idea but also impossible to pull off.
For example, education, it is important, yes, but putting more money in it is not going to do anything if the students ain't willing to learn. I went to one of my city best public school with entrance exam so I was relatively well off, but from what other people tell me of the lower end high school, the students behave pretty bad there. Putting more money in it is not going to made those trouble maker willing to learn. Making the school year longer is not going to do much either. You can push all those materials to student throat but if they ain't listening it is goign to do nothing but waste tax payer money.
Green Energy. If we truly want green energy that do not made co2, we already have one, Nuclear, yet the government do not want to pursue it. Plenty of nation are already using it to provide cheap energy to its people yet why not us as well? Conclusion is, government do not want us to have access to cheap and good energy source since once we have that, government will no longer have the basis to tell its people what temperature to set their a/c or heating.
Health care: No matter how much Obama spin it, I still do not believe that UHC is the solution we need in US. It will cost us trillion to overhurl our health care system and honestly, I think we can spend the money better else where.
Originally posted by: alchemize
He said he was going to increase the deficit 400%, and give away several trillion dollars to banks at the taxpayers expense, and incur debt faster than all presidents in history combined? I missed that in his campaign speeches.Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
Other than that he's been true to his campaign.
Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: alchemize
He said he was going to increase the deficit 400%, and give away several trillion dollars to banks at the taxpayers expense, and incur debt faster than all presidents in history combined? I missed that in his campaign speeches.Originally posted by: eskimospy
Nope, Obama has done pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do, and it's nice to have a mature and thoughtful leader that I'm not ashamed of. I wish he were doing more to roll back Bush's assault on the 4th Amendment, but other than that I am pretty much happy with how things are going. Of course it's only been 2 months, so what can you really say?
Other than that he's been true to his campaign.
except for the transparent presidency thing... oh and not putting former lobbyists in his administration.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Kadarin
Do I think McCain and/or Palin would be doing a better job? Hehe yeah right.
Yea, nice argument!
No.
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
I believe that Obama believe that he is doing what he believe is best for the country. However, from what I can see, what he did can not be possibility for the best of the country. I do nto hate Obama, I hate his policy. His main talking point every sincer the campaign are education, green energy, and free health care. They are sound idea but also impossible to pull off.
For example, education, it is important, yes, but putting more money in it is not going to do anything if the students ain't willing to learn. I went to one of my city best public school with entrance exam so I was relatively well off, but from what other people tell me of the lower end high school, the students behave pretty bad there. Putting more money in it is not going to made those trouble maker willing to learn. Making the school year longer is not going to do much either. You can push all those materials to student throat but if they ain't listening it is goign to do nothing but waste tax payer money.
Green Energy. If we truly want green energy that do not made co2, we already have one, Nuclear, yet the government do not want to pursue it. Plenty of nation are already using it to provide cheap energy to its people yet why not us as well? Conclusion is, government do not want us to have access to cheap and good energy source since once we have that, government will no longer have the basis to tell its people what temperature to set their a/c or heating.
Health care: No matter how much Obama spin it, I still do not believe that UHC is the solution we need in US. It will cost us trillion to overhurl our health care system and honestly, I think we can spend the money better else where.
You think that money could be better spent than towards giving people easier and cheaper access to HEALTH CARE!?
So, having corporations with profit and bottom lines as their goal denying people insurance and claims, killing thousands each year, shouldn't be removed. Better money spent elsewhere? What is better than saving peoples' lives instead of profit?
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: Xellos2099
I believe that Obama believe that he is doing what he believe is best for the country. However, from what I can see, what he did can not be possibility for the best of the country. I do nto hate Obama, I hate his policy. His main talking point every sincer the campaign are education, green energy, and free health care. They are sound idea but also impossible to pull off.
For example, education, it is important, yes, but putting more money in it is not going to do anything if the students ain't willing to learn. I went to one of my city best public school with entrance exam so I was relatively well off, but from what other people tell me of the lower end high school, the students behave pretty bad there. Putting more money in it is not going to made those trouble maker willing to learn. Making the school year longer is not going to do much either. You can push all those materials to student throat but if they ain't listening it is goign to do nothing but waste tax payer money.
Green Energy. If we truly want green energy that do not made co2, we already have one, Nuclear, yet the government do not want to pursue it. Plenty of nation are already using it to provide cheap energy to its people yet why not us as well? Conclusion is, government do not want us to have access to cheap and good energy source since once we have that, government will no longer have the basis to tell its people what temperature to set their a/c or heating.
Health care: No matter how much Obama spin it, I still do not believe that UHC is the solution we need in US. It will cost us trillion to overhurl our health care system and honestly, I think we can spend the money better else where.
You think that money could be better spent than towards giving people easier and cheaper access to HEALTH CARE!?
So, having corporations with profit and bottom lines as their goal denying people insurance and claims, killing thousands each year, shouldn't be removed. Better money spent elsewhere? What is better than saving peoples' lives instead of profit?
O please, you made it sound like health care is a necessary right. Human being had and have exist without UHC and will continue to survive without one. If you have money, go to private hospital and if you are poor, go to city hospital and file for limit of liability for medical cost. Anything and I mean, anything, as long as it has been influence by the government as a political agenda, is nothing but poison to the heart to man/woman. Government who give people everything will also have the power to take it all away. The world is never fair, some people have more money and some people have less. To your point of cheap health care, they ARE already available in many of the city hospital as long as you are poor and file out necessary form for it.
What you said about the insurance compnany has nothing to do with the current problem. Maybe peopel should have read the policy carefully before buying the insurance service.