Was brazos a bad product?

[Insert_Nickname]

yes but which 5450 they used
5450 made a range of cards
form ddr3 64bit cards with 256 mb
to gddr5 128bit 1 gbyte ram

so which one was use in the test??

In the interest of being as identical to the IGP as possible, it was the 64bit DDR3 version.

 

[ALIVE]

In the interest of being as identical to the IGP as possible, it was the 64bit DDR3 version.

well slow ram made the comparison comparable
but an 5450 with faster ram and lots of ram would also be nice to see

but with that slow ram the dgpu is familiar to the igp
putting a medium card could make you get a better performance not that much because then you end up cpu limited. but there was a possibility for better graphics performance with a dgpy if it was going to make sense to put one well it would not

 

[Insert_Nickname]

well slow ram made the comparison comparable
but an 5450 with faster ram and lots of ram would also be nice to see

but with that slow ram the dgpu is familiar to the igp
putting a medium card could make you get a better performance not that much because then you end up cpu limited. but there was a possibility for better graphics performance with a dgpy if it was going to make sense to put one well it would not

I should of course remember to clarify this was using a Brazos/Bobcat CPU with the discrete card. The point being Brazos/Bobcat can't pull more then the IGP anyway.

The reason for Brazos fairly powerful IGP is hardware accelerated media playback, to compensate for the relatively weak CPU.

 

[ALIVE]

I should of course remember to clarify this was using a Brazos/Bobcat CPU with the discrete card. The point being Brazos/Bobcat can't pull more then the IGP anyway.

The reason for Brazos fairly powerful IGP is hardware accelerated media playback, to compensate for the relatively weak CPU.

the first brazos e350 was excellent product because its igpu was powerful enough to play media content thus it had a role to play

a cheap pc for media contest and web browsing and yes for light work loads in offices

what followed e350 was disappointing or not followed
e450 had no real reason of existing

amp in this category should have aimed to increase the cpu perfomance in each generation keeping the tdp the same
then they could give a motivation to upgrade

but amp went lower tdp and more igpu !?!??!!?
thus destroying the series and the platform

they could made some variants
1. more sata ports so you make a nas storage they could in this variation enable ecc support and have it more expensive
2. more cores a 4 core design promised but never delivered with igp or without.
3. a variation for 16 pci lanes so you can put a good graphic card and use it with software that will run in the card and not rely on the cpu.

amp has to much gpu to cpu ratio which is bad
because a favor with cpu would mean it will make more sense when you install a dgpu because there will be nto cpu limited thus making the dgpu a joke rather than option

 

[mrmt]

amp in this category should have aimed to increase the cpu perfomance in each generation keeping the tdp the same
then they could give a motivation to upgrade

Brazos as weak as it was cannibalized a lot of derpdozer sales on the bottom end, a stronger Brazos would have cannibalized a lot more sales, this in a moment were AMD was struggling with WSA quotas to fulfill. Whatever sales they were to make with Brazos they would lose big with WSA take-or-pay charges.

 

[ALIVE]

Brazos as weak as it was cannibalized a lot of derpdozer sales on the bottom end, a stronger Brazos would have cannibalized a lot more sales, this in a moment were AMD was struggling with WSA quotas to fulfill. Whatever sales they were to make with Brazos they would lose big with WSA take-or-pay charges.

when brazos was launched what was there form amp??
athlon II in the desktop
but there was huge distance between them
so i do not see the problem or the cannibalism

the WSA was a great concept from amp how to destroy a company lol
even intel if it had a WSA was goign to be out of business by now

 

[dark zero]

the first brazos e350 was excellent product because its igpu was powerful enough to play media content thus it had a role to play

a cheap pc for media contest and web browsing and yes for light work loads in offices

what followed e350 was disappointing or not followed
e450 had no real reason of existing

amp in this category should have aimed to increase the cpu perfomance in each generation keeping the tdp the same
then they could give a motivation to upgrade

but amp went lower tdp and more igpu !?!??!!?
thus destroying the series and the platform

they could made some variants
1. more sata ports so you make a nas storage they could in this variation enable ecc support and have it more expensive
2. more cores a 4 core design promised but never delivered with igp or without.
3. a variation for 16 pci lanes so you can put a good graphic card and use it with software that will run in the card and not rely on the cpu.

amp has to much gpu to cpu ratio which is bad
because a favor with cpu would mean it will make more sense when you install a dgpu because there will be nto cpu limited thus making the dgpu a joke rather than option

If AMD would made the e450 as Quad Core, it would had a reason to exist.