Really? When I hand anyone one of my handguns I rack the slide back and the gun and magazine get handed over separate. Also hand it over so the empty chamber is visible. If in doubt you can use your pinky finger to check the chamber is clear.
I don't know man - that's only true if you're getting shot back at. It was a Desert Eagle, meaning even with near-perfect aim, he'd probably miss.Never assume anything. That's all I can say really. No second chances with this stuff.
OP: you did the right thing. Always assume every gun is loaded. Always verify for yourself that it is unloaded and the chamber is clear REGARDLESS of what anyone else says. Don't be so surprised though; some gun owners - just like car owners, lawn mower owners, home owners, business owners, etc. - are idiots. Use your own brain power instead of relying on theirs and you'll do alright.
In my experiences, having someone say "it's empty" is just as dangerous as someone handing a person a loaded gun. Yes, a loaded gun is ready to go and inherently more dangerous in that respect. However, an "empty" gun might not be (people get distracted, forget, or are generally careless), and taking someone's word for it without verifying for yourself can lead to just as bad - if not worse - of a situation.
ANY time you're handed a firearm, drop the magazine, rack the slide, check the chamber, open the cylinder, etc. If the owner gets pissed for you double checking, don't deal with them anymore. It might be the owner's own negligence that leads to a bad situation, but when the firearm is in your hands, it's your responsibility to make sure it doesn't go off except on the intended target.
First, the owner is a moron. Second, why would anyone pull the trigger on a weapon when they don't know whether it's loaded or not?
Someone had a shiny new .50 cal desert eagle on the table. I asked if I could touch it. They said yes. I treat guns like they are loaded, and its a good thing, because had I pulled the trigger, there would be a large hole in something right now. Sucker was chambered and ready to rock with hollow points.
Yeah...standard practice at most gun stores with policies prior to showing a gun to a customer...First thing you do is check to see if the gun is loaded. But, yeah cool story... o_0
All guns should be carried with a round in the chamber, the hammer cocked and the safety off. This way the gun is ready to go at any time and you never have to fumble with the safety. :sneaky:
The most common/popular guns these days don't have a safety anyway. Or a hammer, for that matter.
Someone is a dumb ass. You should hang out somewhere else.
loaded and ready to go is the way to go
Also in reality, safeties get you killed.
I see you've never played Polish roulette. It's like Russian roulette, but you put a single cartridge in a semi auto magazine before playing.
Someone is a dumb ass. You should hang out somewhere else.
Only a complete idiot would carry a 1911 cocked with the safety off.
Only a complete idiot would carry a 1911 cocked with the safety off.
Only a complete idiot would carry a 1911 cocked with the safety off.
People always say this, but I struggle to see the difference between a 1911 with a firing pin block and a Glock/M&P/XD, which are considered safe with no manual safety.
They all have ~6lb triggers (in stock form), and won't go off unless you press the trigger. The Glock trigger supposedly finishes cocking the striker, but the M&P and XD are single action. I guess the trigger travel is slightly shorter on a 1911.
IIRC Browning's original design did not have the manual safety.
If you think you need that gun then the safety should be off and properly holstered.