JD50
Lifer
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Any claim of truth requires some form of evidence.
Great, then provide some evidence.
Any claim of truth requires some form of evidence.
Great, then provide some evidence.
Some claims are verifiable and some are not. Several people in this thread have made claims that are, in fact, easily verifiable...however, when asked to provide evidence to support their allegations they become strangely silent. How curious is that? Spiritual matters may not be your cup of tea...but asking for proof in such matters is an exercise in futility and you know it. The only hint that an atheist has that something may be awry with their "perception" is that only about 2% of their fellow humans beings share such a world view.
98%And what percentage of human beings over the course of time has believed in your god?
I know this is difficult for you...but I said miracles cannot, CANNOT be proven 2000 years after they happened.
The proof were eye-witnesses, and the beneficiaries of such acts, who are dead (yeah, I know its also convenient that humans don't live 2000 years, huh?)
You're faced with believing them or not, or calling them [insert word here].
No...the God I believe in has existed forever.nice try
Actually, you make a very good point, just not the one you thought you were making. The god you believe in is almost entirely dependent on the time and place you were born.
You have agreed that any claim of truth requires evidence. You have not provided evidence. I am sure you can understand why someone would be skeptical of some shephards that lived 2000 years ago claiming that a virgin gave birth.
No...the God I believe in has existed forever.
I know why people are skeptical, and that's fine, and they should be.
But these magical claims are not magical at all, as I've demonstrated, a virgin can give birth today via modern medicine.
Those who believe in the power of God are NOT skeptical of this for the simple fact a virgin giving birth can be duplicated today, and *if* God is powerful enough to create the Universe, a virgin birth is child's-play.
And what percentage of human beings over the course of time has believed in your god?
It is a magical claim when you're claiming it happened without the use of modern medicine.
did you want us to invent a time machine to go back and ask every one of them?
You're assuming that ONLY modern medicine can produce such a feat, because that's all you've seen. I bet the witnesses of this "magic" would beg to differ with you.
I can rightly say you are an atheist ONLY because of the time period you were born in, and you ONLY lack belief because this is indeed an age of skepticism?
Would I be right?
If you have evidence that it's possible without modern medicine, I'd certainly be interested in seeing it.
Well, I'm sure there's always been atheists, but you're partially right. The more knowledge we gain, the more skeptical we become of "miracles".
Oh are you going with this line of argument as well? X% of people believe what I believe so it must be true?
I would imagine a vast majority assuming today's percentages of atheists holds up over the course of time. Spirituality is an innate human attribute...has been and always will be in my opinion.And what percentage of human beings over the course of time has believed in your god?
When one holds an extreme minority opinion...perhaps it is reasonable to believe that they're the ones who should be re-evaluating what they think is true. No?Oh are you going with this line of argument as well? X% of people believe what I believe so it must be true?
I would imagine a vast majority assuming today's percentages of atheists holds up over the course of time. Spirituality is an innate human attribute...has been and always will be in my opinion.
The only evidence I have are the testimonies of the persons who say they witnessed it, and wrote it down. I believe them, you don't.
That's really what it boils down to. The question you should be asking is if they're credible or not.
No...the God I believe in has existed forever.
watch unmistaken child. it is available free online. it is documented on video, and the monk talks about being careful about assuming things.
look up gnostism in wikipedia.
When one holds an extreme minority opinion...perhaps it is reasonable to believe that they're the ones who should be re-evaluating what they think is true. No?