Was this a Smart bomb?

randomrogue

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I think there was a video during the first gulf war where a missile was guided through a window to hit their target.
 

Kadarin

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Looks like a good solid hit, and they took care to avoid the other car and anyone else around. Two pieces of shit removed from the world.
 

Northern Lawn

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all the videos I've seen were of stationary targets and the camera is fixed on the target for at least several minutes. If it is a smart bomb, what an amazing hit.
 

Merad

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Not if they're moving.

Smart bombs are more than capable of hitting a moving vehicle and have been for decades. Maybe not a car driving at highway speeds, but slow moving, fo' sho'.

That said, this was probably a Hellfire missile. AFAIK the smallest smart bombs are ~500 lbs, and this explosion did not look like it was that large.
 
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I haven't watched but I distinctly remember during Gulf War 1 a laser guided bomb was dropped thru an AC shaft. I remember the video.
 

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Smart bombs are more than capable of hitting a moving vehicle and have been for decades. Maybe not a car driving at highway speeds, but slow moving, fo' sho'.

That said, this was probably a Hellfire missile. AFAIK the smallest smart bombs are ~500 lbs, and this explosion did not look like it was that large.
That's a really good point and it did look like it exploded in the safest place possible. Look at the bottom left hand corner when the detonation happens, at first I thought it was people running but I think it might be glass shattering from the concussion.
 

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That's a really good point and it did look like it exploded in the safest place possible. Look at the bottom left hand corner when the detonation happens, at first I thought it was people running but I think it might be glass shattering from the concussion.

That is the mark of today's guided weaponry. Note that the detonation occurred at an intersection so it did less damage than if it were in front of a building, and away from other moving vehicles. Things sure as hell got blown up, but that there was even a choice in minimizing surrounding damage is remarkable, and it seems that someone made an effort to do just that.
 

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That is the mark of today's guided weaponry. Note that the detonation occurred at an intersection so it did less damage than if it were in front of a building, and away from other moving vehicles. Things sure as hell got blown up, but that there was even a choice in minimizing surrounding damage is remarkable, and it seems that someone made an effort to do just that.

.. and the news reports will ignore that entirely.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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.. and the news reports will ignore that entirely.

News agencies have been gutted in favor of entertainment. The knowledge and understanding of those who report it is far inferior to Huntley and Brinkley or Cronkite. We have O'Reilly instead.
 

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That is the mark of today's guided weaponry. Note that the detonation occurred at an intersection so it did less damage than if it were in front of a building, and away from other moving vehicles. Things sure as hell got blown up, but that there was even a choice in minimizing surrounding damage is remarkable, and it seems that someone made an effort to do just that.

I think that was luck more than anything. I don't think smart bombs have a "hover in place and wait a moment" capability. That is, suppose that instead of passing that other vehicle, the car pulled along side it and maintained being along side it. The bomb doesn't have a "well, let's go back to the jet & wait" capability.
 

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Yeah, that was more likely a missile attack. The vehicle was moving slowly and even a portable javelin missile is famous for being point and forget. One hellfire from a helicopter or jet and it's over.
 

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That said, this was probably a Hellfire missile. AFAIK the smallest smart bombs are ~500 lbs, and this explosion did not look like it was that large.

Since it was the Israelis it could be a version of their SPIKE ATGM. I believe it's got a smaller warhead than the Hellfire, and since it's newer I wouldn't be surprised if it's more accurate.
 

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I think that was luck more than anything. I don't think smart bombs have a "hover in place and wait a moment" capability. That is, suppose that instead of passing that other vehicle, the car pulled along side it and maintained being along side it. The bomb doesn't have a "well, let's go back to the jet & wait" capability.

I didn't say bomb. I said weapon. That was intentional.
 

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Btw theres a lot that can be done with the venerable 130 series aircraft, although they are usually reserved for night ops. Easy targets.
 

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I think that was luck more than anything. I don't think smart bombs have a "hover in place and wait a moment" capability. That is, suppose that instead of passing that other vehicle, the car pulled along side it and maintained being along side it. The bomb doesn't have a "well, let's go back to the jet & wait" capability.


Respectfully disagree. That's classic Israeli AF precision and is not exactly out of the ordinary from what I understand. Also, they have Delilah, which is a smart munition with loiter capability. Certainly possible that was a Delilah strike too, it's initial variant had a deliberately small warhead for less collateral damage - same thing our Air Force has been doing for years.


I still think it's more likely it was a K2A Hellfire, but I'd like to know for sure...



Edit: guess I was wrong it was first just a decoy.
 
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