wat? Change.gov is a government website now?

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Did this thing just go up today? Haven't heard about it before. Some interesting tidbits from the site though.

http://www.change.gov/americaserves/serves_section/

The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation?s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.

And under Urban Policy

They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

But but but, he's said several times he's not interested.

Think of the children!

Kids are like poems. They are beautiful to their creator. To everyone else, they're just fucking annoying.
 

jpeyton

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Nice!

Looks like it will move our country forward.
 

bamacre

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by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year.

And there it is, mandatory service. Yet I was told I was wrong in this thread.
 

OCGuy

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The slow dance to the left begins.....

At least he'll be out in 4 after he pisses everyone off.

The Republicans dont need to do anything to improve the brand image. Obama will do it for them.
 

bamacre

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Nice!

Looks like it will move our country forward.

Social progressive: One who supports taking away freedoms and liberties of people and calling it progress.
 

TallBill

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They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

So fucking stupid. The typical gun crime is with a $100 throw away 9mm handgun. Gang members don't use AR-15's to kill each other. If your going to just ban firearms for no reason, don't make up stupid fucking lies.
 

halik

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Heh 99% of that is just pure bullshit and PR. He'll have real issues to deal with as soon as he gets into the office and all this lib tree hugger crap will fall to the wayside.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
The slow dance to the left begins.....

At least he'll be out in 4 after he pisses everyone off.

The Republicans dont need to do anything to improve the brand image. Obama will do it for them.
:laugh:

If that's the GOP strategy after their colossal defeat this year, they're worse off than I thought.

Obama will be in office until 2016. Start the countdown.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
The slow dance to the left begins.....

At least he'll be out in 4 after he pisses everyone off.

The Republicans dont need to do anything to improve the brand image. Obama will do it for them.
:laugh:

If that's the GOP strategy after their colossal defeat this year, they're worse off than I thought.

Obama will be in office until 2016. Start the countdown.


Right, because the way to keep young people on your side is to make them do community service.

I think I may enjoy 2012 more than I originally thought. :laugh:
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: TallBill
They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

So fucking stupid. The typical gun crime is with a $100 throw away 9mm handgun. Gang members don't use AR-15's to kill each other. If your going to just ban firearms for no reason, don't make up stupid fucking lies.

I'll caveat that. I've definitely seen my fair share of assault weapons in gunshot trauma at my hospital. Granted you are right most are 9mm, .22 cal, .25 cal etc but we will get those wicked assault rifle type stuff at least once or twice a month. It's out there but generally reserved for when you wanna make sure that fellow gang member aint getting back up
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I think I may enjoy 2012 more than I originally thought. :laugh:
Me too. I want to see what throwaway candidate the GOP nominates to fall on their sword for 2012.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
The slow dance to the left begins.....

At least he'll be out in 4 after he pisses everyone off.

The Republicans dont need to do anything to improve the brand image. Obama will do it for them.

yep, I can see four years of this will wake everyone up. The repubs better not fvck it up.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: TallBill
They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

So fucking stupid. The typical gun crime is with a $100 throw away 9mm handgun. Gang members don't use AR-15's to kill each other. If your going to just ban firearms for no reason, don't make up stupid fucking lies.

I'll caveat that. I've definitely seen my fair share of assault weapons in gunshot trauma at my hospital. Granted you are right most are 9mm, .22 cal, .25 cal etc but we will get those wicked assault rifle type stuff at least once or twice a month. It's out there but generally reserved for when you wanna make sure that fellow gang member aint getting back up

You think any of those guns are registered though (or obtained legally for that matter)?

I have heard of gangs using AK47s, especially in cali... but vast majority of that stuff comes from mexico.
 

GTaudiophile

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What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.
 

TallBill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: TallBill
They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

So fucking stupid. The typical gun crime is with a $100 throw away 9mm handgun. Gang members don't use AR-15's to kill each other. If your going to just ban firearms for no reason, don't make up stupid fucking lies.

I'll caveat that. I've definitely seen my fair share of assault weapons in gunshot trauma at my hospital. Granted you are right most are 9mm, .22 cal, .25 cal etc but we will get those wicked assault rifle type stuff at least once or twice a month. It's out there but generally reserved for when you wanna make sure that fellow gang member aint getting back up

You think any of those guns are registered though?

Probably not. And if the Ar-15's are banned, then they'll just keep using 9mm's. And if those are banned, they'll use knives.

Look at Russia or Ukraine. They have higher murder rates then the US, and guns are banned.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.

Right. Forcing adults to do things they dont want to do, because you think they need it. How religious of you.

Landslide, here we come.
 

TallBill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.

I hate the idea of mandatory military service because all of the dolts that would pass through. But if you gave them other options like the ones you mentioned I'd be all for it.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.

Right. Forcing adults to do things they dont want to do, because you think they need it. How religious of you.

Landslide, here we come.

Upu just don`t get do you.....rofl@Ocguy31!
Do your parents know your using the computer??
 

OCGuy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.

Right. Forcing adults to do things they dont want to do, because you think they need it. How religious of you.

Landslide, here we come.

Upu just don`t get do you.....rofl@Ocguy31!
Do your parents know your using the computer??


No, I dont get it. Because I dont think that was English.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Landslide, here we come.
Indeed; I think Obama tops 375 EV in 2012 after he flips GA and MO. Maybe a cherry on top if he flips MT, too.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What about mandatory foreign service for a year between high school / college?

Create an international, larger version of the Peace Corps + FEMA = Global Emergency Management Agency.

19-year-olds would be required to learn basic life skills, CPR, etc. to help the poor in countries around the world / those devastated by natural disasters, etc.

I think it's what a lot of spoiled American kids need.

Right. Forcing adults to do things they dont want to do, because you think they need it. How religious of you.

Landslide, here we come.

Just imagine, if fleets of American ships like the USS Mercy came to the rescue within 24-48 hours of any major natural disaster anywhere on the globe with the precision of the US Military. The world would love us! Heck, it would be a great government organization for retired military, high school drop outs, perhaps even the homeless. Then, along side them, 19-year-old "kids" learning about how the real world works outside of suburbia. Helping erect hospital walls in Africa or taking care of an AIDS-infected child or carrying bags of rice in Asia...would make responsible men (and women) out of those spoiled brats in no time.
 

TallBill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Landslide, here we come.
Indeed; I think Obama tops 375 EV in 2012 after he flips GA and MO. Maybe a cherry on top if he flips MT, too.

How does that matter at this point?
 
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