Watching DS9

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MongGrel

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That would be great to have a famous uncle. For some reason, William Shatner seems to me like a really nice relaxed guy.
He can be a bit of a dick now and then I guess, but he's pretty cool overall from what I'd heard.

But aren't we all sometimes.
 
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DS characters had such depth... they're all so unique in their own ways is what makes the show awesome. What I really enjoyed was that each character had developing relationship with another that was fun to watch when they had exchanges such as:
Garek with Bashir
Bashir with O'Brien
Odo with Quark/Kira
Dax with Sisko/Worf
Jake with Sisko/Nog

oh and it had the Defiant which was such a departure from your usual Trek ships. I got giddy everytime they took her out cause it was gonna get real.

Me too.
Yeah, i always never understood why starfleet had all this knowledge to build war class ships but they never did. Also in the DS9 episodes, heavy losses were incurred against the Jem Hadar.
Then starfleet builds a ship and it is too powerful.
From star trek voyager,
the final episodes show an upgraded voyager shooting down every Borg cube in the vicinity.
 
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He can be a bit of a dick now and then I guess, but he's pretty cool overall from what I'd heard.

But aren't we all sometimes.

The way i see it.
If you are nice all the time, you do not care about the world. Ones emotional state gets influenced all the time by the environment and ones own thoughts.
 

darkxshade

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Me too.
Yeah, i always never understood why starfleet had all this knowledge to build war class ships but they never did. Also in the DS9 episodes, heavy losses were incurred against the Jem Hadar.
Then starfleet builds a ship and it is too powerful.
From star trek voyager,
the final episodes show an upgraded voyager shooting down every Borg cube in the vicinity.


That's probably because their mandate had always been primarily peace and exploration so while they had the know how, they never pursued it. Though as a viewer I think that's a bit naive on their part. They should know better.
 
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That's probably because their mandate had always been primarily peace and exploration so while they had the know how, they never pursued it. Though as a viewer I think that's a bit naive on their part. They should know better.

That is the same view i have. I would go for peace and exploration but i would build stronger ships with stronger shields. And knowing that i have enemies such as the borg and the jem hadar, i would use better weapons. I surely hope not to use them but it would be like a condom.
Better to have one when you do not need it then when you need one and do not have one.

I am getting carried away again over a fictional series...
 

1sikbITCH

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That is the same view i have. I would go for peace and exploration but i would build stronger ships with stronger shields. And knowing that i have enemies such as the borg and the jem hadar, i would use better weapons. I surely hope not to use them but it would be like a condom.
Better to have one when you do not need it then when you need one and do not have one.

I am getting carried away again over a fictional series...

Oh you're not there yet:

 

T9D

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To be honest, i would not mind going to a costume party where i would wear a star trek uniform.
As long as there is a 50-50 mix of males and females.

So....you'll never be going to a Star trek costume party then.

Unless you are willing to budge a little...say like 90-10

And the 10 percent girls are weird as heck and not attractive. But if you are lucky they paid for some hot girls in costumes. Maybe a stripper even.
 

BladeVenom

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Garak was one of the best characters in any show. Quark was also interesting. Having regulars who aren't the same old boring Federation goody two-shoes made it the best Star Trek series.
 

StinkyPinky

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The Klingons are ridiculous. It's one thing to have a warrior culture but from how they are portrayed you have to wonder how the hell they invented the wheel, let alone mastered faster than light space travel. They basically just grunt and hit things.
 

StinkyPinky

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Garak was one of the best characters in any show. Quark was also interesting. Having regulars who aren't the same old boring Federation goody two-shoes made it the best Star Trek series.

Garak was my favorite character in all of star trek. The actor was great and Garak was the shade of grey most of trek lacked.
 

mrjminer

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They steal stuff that "makes them go".

I see what you did there, Mr. subtle TNG reference in the DS9 thread

Klingons aren't nearly as bad as those guys. They do actually have scientists and researchers, not just kidnap the chief engineer on every ship they come across
 
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bbhaag

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I come to the conclusion again as i do every time i watch a startrek movie.
I hate klingons and find them incredibly boring. Bunch of k'pekts.
I've came to the same conclusion every time I watch DS9. I find the whole series incredibly boring.
 

DigDog

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I didnt like Trek because it was good, but because it was bad.

Blinking lights, garbage-bag monsters, camp acting and double-fist punching.

Not trying to knock on your fav show, but with nextgen and further they tried to make a "good" show, and it just didn't work.
 

Rdmkr

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The Klingons are ridiculous. It's one thing to have a warrior culture but from how they are portrayed you have to wonder how the hell they invented the wheel, let alone mastered faster than light space travel. They basically just grunt and hit things.

I could kinda see Klingon intellectuals being very fierce debaters, eager to find weak points in their peer's views and attacking them without remorse so as to give rise to a very dynamic intellectual creative destruction process. Also very adept at assessing hierarchies of academic authority and both willing to respect them and keen to rise among such ranks. But Star Trek kinda missed the opportunity to portray them like that.
 

DigDog

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the latest episode of Star Trek Continues has just been released. good one too.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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The Klingons are ridiculous. It's one thing to have a warrior culture but from how they are portrayed you have to wonder how the hell they invented the wheel, let alone mastered faster than light space travel. They basically just grunt and hit things.

One thing that never made sense is their warrior's honor and everything, but they use cloaking devices...

The only way that would make sense is if their primary tactic is to use cloaking to get close enough to beam in and start engaging in melee...but from their TV depictions, I'm not sure they do that quite enough to make it make sense.
 

shadow9d9

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One thing that never made sense is their warrior's honor and everything, but they use cloaking devices...

The only way that would make sense is if their primary tactic is to use cloaking to get close enough to beam in and start engaging in melee...but from their TV depictions, I'm not sure they do that quite enough to make it make sense.

They can't attack while cloaked and have no shield capabilities at the time. They uncloak and then start a fair fight... It isn't like they get to fire off a bunch of missiles first or anything. I don't see anything dishonorable about surprising your prey.
 

Centauri

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Get to In The Pale Moonlight yet?

To this day it's still one of the best hours of television I have ever sat through. Along with Duet from Season 1.
 

cuafpr

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they should do a special album of vic foutins music (spelling is prob all wrong) songs .. loved the episodes with him and the old school Vegas bar.
 
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